My proposed explanation for the great pyramids.

[rickoff]

Rick there are some good points.
I made an error actually the extra planet i refered to was not the thirteenth but and extra planet. The proof of such a planet exists and that proof is in the asteroid belt between mars and jupiter.

I am familiar with the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, and it also extends into our own orbital domain. That does present the possibility that either an additional dwarf planet, or a somewhat larger mass may have existed, but it is not proof of such a theory. The asteroid belt may just as well be material that never formed into an additional planet, and this is thought to be the case because the strong gravitational effects from Jupiter disturbed the natural process that would have otherwise brought these materials together. The failure of this planetary formation is explained here: Astronomers Report Observational Evidence That Terrestrial Planets Form Around Nearby Stars

The process by which planets are formed is discussed here: HubbleSite - Discovering Planets Beyond - How Do Planets Form?

If there was a planet there and there certainly is enough leftover to be such a planet in the belt it would have hit mars first. Thats what killed mars. It blasted mars and shielded us to an extent.

Actually, there isn't enough material within the asteroid belt to evidence prior existence of a planet. The current total mass of the asteroid belt is equal to about 4% of the mass of our Moon. It certainly is possible, though, that a collision between two of the larger formed masses within the asteroid belt may indeed have sent one of these asteroids off course and directly into the path of Mars, where it could have caused a cataclysmic event of the nature that you suggest. Something on the order of the event here on Earth that is thought to have decimated the dinosaurs and brought an end to that era.

The drawing of the planets in is based on not gravity but by the theory that is evident by the one magnet no bearing bedini thread on this forum. Remember that even though the effects are smaller in the thread I bet the same is happening to our solar system on the largest scale. Remove one of the statalites in the vacuum of space and the others get pulled on harder to retain a balance. All the inner planets and maybe some of the other gas giants got pulled on with pluto being less effected. I know I let myself mislead my thoughts about mars. I believe that it was the casuality of the extra planet being destroyed in between Mars and Jupiter. Although we didn't escape from the effects. Both parts of the planet in breaking up (meteors) and the tug on the earth threw it out of alignment.

I'm not familiar with the term "statalites," but I suspect you meant satellites, right? It also would appear that you use the term to identify the planets which are orbiting the Sun, while normally the definition of a satellite is an object that orbits a planet - such as our moon, or man-made satellites. I do undertstand the reasoning behind the theory that the terrestrial planets were pulled in closer to the Sun, but a shift of that magnitude just doesn't seem likely when you consider that the total mass of the asteroid belt is just 4% that of our moon. If these asteroids are in fact the remnants of a previously existing planet then that planet's attraction effect upon the other planets would have been very small, and not likely to have caused any considerable shift in orbital positions of the planets. Then too, if such a shift had occurred that would have been drastic enough to cause Mars' atmospere to burn off, as you suggested earlier, then surely Earth would have suffered a similar fate even faster, and the "alignment" problem you speak of would have been the lesser of Earth's worries. If Earth had been a life-sustaining planet before such a shift in orbital position, then to prevent loss of this self-sustaining nature Earth's previous orbit would have had to be reapproximated. Is there any evidence to support how or if such an orbital realignment could have happened?

I appologize for my errors and feel free to question everything I have to say about it. It will only help me to reput my statements the way I had originally envisioned it. My accuracy at retelling my thoughts sometimes get jumbled in my attempt to write it down.

No need to apologize, J. What you have to say is interesting and worth reading, even if we aren't in agreement on this theory. Yes, perhaps the points that I bring up will help you to rethink some of this and come to new conclusions that help to solidify the proposed theory by satisfactorily explaining the problems which I perceived.

Actually Rick I believe the pyramids were not to produce power as the main purpose. Although they could I believe they were made to correct our own magnetosphere to bring the earth back into a more normal alignment. When they corrected the alignment and the planet earth settled into in new orbit they packed the focusers up and hid them in the pyramids liks Cayce talks about."

Are you suggesting that the "focusers" would have been used in the same way that the focusers on alien space craft are said to work - creating a pathway which the craft then follows? If so, and if it is actually feasible to move an entire planet by these means, then of course it would not only have been possible to realign Earth's axis, but to restore its original orbital path as well. And If this could be done with our planet then it would also have been possible to move the other terrestrial planets out to their restored orbits, and that would have been necessary in successfully completing such an endeavor. Seems like a gargantuan task for even the most technologically advanced of beings, but is certainly plausible if the technology to do this actually exists.

Edgar Cayce was stunningly accurate on a great many of the things he revealed, and I too think his revelation about the then undiscovered compartment beneath the Sphinx has validity, and that it holds the key to an understanding of the true purpose of the pyramids, and of the beings who designed and constructed them.

Rick

[Michael John Nunnerley]

just for thought from another angle

Precession of the Earth's Axis

Mike

[Jbignes5]

Right on rick...

Since I lack the forum skills of micro quoting I'll try my best to answer them on a copy and paste method.

Ricks quote "I am familiar with the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, and it also extends into our own orbital domain. That does present the possibility that either an additional dwarf planet, or a somewhat larger mass may have existed, but it is not proof of such a theory. The asteroid belt may just as well be material that never formed into an additional planet, and this is thought to be the case because the strong gravitational effects from Jupiter disturbed the natural process that would have otherwise brought these materials together. The failure of this planetary formation is explained here:"

Although most of the time I think it totally out sometimes I miss my point. What was in the asteroid belt is what was left of a planet going boom. That in itself would have been a radiant event. Meaning 360 degree dispursion. The smaller particles or asteriods would have become stuck right where they were. But the much larger chunks would have been thrown clear and most likely became commets.

Ricks quote "Actually, there isn't enough material within the asteroid belt to evidence prior existence of a planet. The current total mass of the asteroid belt is equal to about 4% of the mass of our Moon. It certainly is possible, though, that a collision between two of the larger formed masses within the asteroid belt may indeed have sent one of these asteroids off course and directly into the path of Mars, where it could have caused a cataclysmic event of the nature that you suggest. Something on the order of the event here on Earth that is thought to have decimated the dinosaurs and brought an end to that era."

I do believe that the seperate events you mentioned would have been the same event. My thoughts on this was that they predicted this event before hand and started to move to our planet. This would have given them the time to setup the pyramids and build the rest of that original city built around the Pyramids. I believe the pyramids were focusers of our own planets natural energy. The evidence points to that already. A huge flat mountain underneath the sand means that it could bear the weight of the pyramids push on the world or to be used for the shoring up of the protective field as well. Thats kills three problems all at once. The sideways push on the earth that would have been needed to restore the axis of the earth, the strengthening of the fields that the Pyramids were pointing at and power generation for thier rescue camp.

Ricks Quote "I'm not familiar with the term "statalites," but I suspect you meant satellites, right? It also would appear that you use the term to identify the planets which are orbiting the Sun, while normally the definition of a satellite is an object that orbits a planet - such as our moon, or man-made satellites. I do undertstand the reasoning behind the theory that the terrestrial planets were pulled in closer to the Sun, but a shift of that magnitude just doesn't seem likely when you consider that the total mass of the asteroid belt is just 4% that of our moon. If these asteroids are in fact the remnants of a previously existing planet then that planet's attraction effect upon the other planets would have been very small, and not likely to have caused any considerable shift in orbital positions of the planets. Then too, if such a shift had occurred that would have been drastic enough to cause Mars' atmospere to burn off, as you suggested earlier, then surely Earth would have suffered a similar fate even faster, and the "alignment" problem you speak of would have been the lesser of Earth's worries. If Earth had been a life-sustaining planet before such a shift in orbital position, then to prevent loss of this self-sustaining nature Earth's previous orbit would have had to be reapproximated. Is there any evidence to support how or if such an orbital realignment could have happened?"

Rick just one question here.. Have you ever seen a planet explode? I suspect that no one really has. I do believe it would be much like cracking an egg open. The stuff that is in the belt is the stuff that could not escape the solar system. It is 4% of our moon capacity. That doesn't mean it is the main mass as well. I believe if such an event would happen the much larger chunks got thrown with great force allowing them to escape our soloar systems pull. Yes I made a spelling error with the satellites comment. You have to understand if gravity is made up and is just a observation of the results of a much easier to understand explaination then gravity as we know it is the wrong terminology.

Ricks quote "No need to apologize, J. What you have to say is interesting and worth reading, even if we aren't in agreement on this theory. Yes, perhaps the points that I bring up will help you to rethink some of this and come to new conclusions that help to solidify the proposed theory by satisfactorily explaining the problems which I perceived."

This is exactly why I am so glad you came here. We both have a innate way to disect what we see and I am extreemely proud that I have provoked an interest in you of these ideas I am putting forth. The problem I have is putting what I see in my mind in writing. Sometimes they get swirled up because my mind races from one subject to another. This confuses me to no end. Although I have tried to keep myself on track I find myself connecting to other thoughts and ideas that should not have a connection. I thank you with all my heart for making me rethink this so that it will become much clearer in my presentation.


Ricks quote "Are you suggesting that the "focusers" would have been used in the same way that the focusers on alien space craft are said to work - creating a pathway which the craft then follows? If so, and if it is actually feasible to move an entire planet by these means, then of course it would not only have been possible to realign Earth's axis, but to restore its original orbital path as well. And If this could be done with our planet then it would also have been possible to move the other terrestrial planets out to their restored orbits, and that would have been necessary in successfully completing such an endeavor. Seems like a gargantuan task for even the most technologically advanced of beings, but is certainly plausible if the technology to do this actually exists."

Well think about it the Earth didn't move that far outside the the golden zone that few have talked about in the serch for other habitable planets. So All one needed to do was restore the tilt of the planet back to it's original or near there alignment.

Ricks quote "Edgar Cayce was stunningly accurate on a great many of the things he revealed, and I too think his revelation about the then undiscovered compartment beneath the Sphinx has validity, and that it holds the key to an understanding of the true purpose of the pyramids, and of the beings who designed and constructed them."

Yeah he was actually in a regressed state, a previous life if you will. Some say he had intimate knowledge because thats what he did when he was working in the pyramid. Weather that is true remains to be seen but others have gone thru regressive therapy to only give information that was previosly unkown. Who knows with all the dna we have there could be code in there to give us clues thru self regression in this case.

Rick like I have said before please understand I value your opinions and they are in fact helping me to clarify my thoughts on this and for that I will thank you again!

John

[HairBear]

From the "Lost Book Of Enki" by Zecharia Sitchin

Now this is the account of the celestial battle,
and how the earth had come to be, and of Nibiru's destiny.
The lord went forth, his fated course he followed,
Toward the raging Tiamat he sent his face, a spell with his lips he uttered.
As a cloak for protection he the Pulser and the Emitter put on;
With a fearsome radiance his head was crowned.
On his right he posted the Smiter, on his left the Repeller he placed.
The seven winds, his host of helpers, like a storm he sent forth;
Toward the raging Tiamat he was rushing, clamoring for battle.
The gods thronged about him, then from his path they departed,
To scan Tiamat and her helpers alone he was advancing,
The scheme of Kingu, her host's commander, to conceive.
When he saw valiant Kingu, blurred became his vision;
As he gazed upon the monsters his direction was distracted,
His course became upset, his doings were confused.
Tiamat's band tightly her encircled, with terror they trembled.
Tiamat to her roots gave a shudder, a mighty roar she emitted;
On Nibiru she cast a spell, engulfed him with her charms.
The issue between them was joined, the battle was unavoided!
Face to face they came, Tiamat and Nibiru; against each other they were advancing.
They for battle approached, they pressed on for single combat.
The lord spread his net, to encompass her he cast it;
With fury Tiamat cried out, like one possessed she lost her senses.
The evil wind, which had been behind him, Nibiru drove forward, in her face he let it loose;
She opened her mouth the evil wind to swallow, but could not close her lips.
The evil wind charged her belly, into her innards it made it's way.
Her innards were howling, her body was distended, her mouth was open wide.
Through the opening Nibiru shot a brilliant arrow, a lightning most divine.
It pierced her innards, her belly it tore apart;
It tore into her womb, it split apart her heart.
Having thus subdued her, her life-breath he extinguished.
The lifeless body Nibiru surveyed, like a slaughtered carcass Tiamat now was.
Beside their lifeless mistress, her eleven helpers trembled with terror;
In Nibiru's net they were captured, unable they were to flee.
Kingu, who by Tiamat was made the host's chief, was among them.
The lord put him in fetters, to his lifeless mistress he bounded him.
He rested from Kingu the tablets of destinies, unrightly to him given.
Stamped it with his own seal, fastened the destiny to his own chest.
The others of Tiamat's band as captives he bound, in his circuit he them ensnared.
He trampled them underfoot, cut them up into pieces.
He bound them all to his circuit; to turn around he made them, backward to course.
From the place of the battle Nibiru then departed,
To the gods who had him appointed the victory to announce.
He made a circuit about Apsu, to Kishar and Anshar he journeyed.
Gaga came out to greet him, as a herald to the others he then journeyed.
Beyond An and Antu, Nibiru to the abode in the deep proceeded.
The face of lifeless Tiamat and of Kingu he then considered,
To Tiamat, whom he had subdued, the lord Nibiru then returned.
He made his way to her, paused to view her lifeless body;
To artfully divide the monster in his heart he was planning.
Then as a mussel, into two parts he split her, her chest from her lower parts he separated.
Her inner channels he cut apart, her golden veins he held with wonder.
Trodding upon her hinder part, the lord her upper part completely severed.
The North wind, his helper, from his side he summoned,
To thrust away the severed head the wind he commanded, in the void to place it.
Nibiru's wind upon Tiamat then hovered, sweeping upon her gushing waters.
Nibiru shot a lightning, to north wind he gave a signal;
In a brilliance was Tiamat's upper part to a region unknown carried.
With her the bound Kingu was also exiled. of the severed part a companion to be.
The hinder part's fate Nibiru then considered:
An everlasting trophy of the battle he wished it to be,
A constant reminder in the heavens, the place of battle to enshrine.
With his mace the hinder part he smash into bits and pieces,
Then strung them together as a band to form a hammered bracelet.
Locking them together, as watchmen he stationed them,
A firmament to divide the waters from the waters.
The upper waters above the firmament from the waters below it he separated;
Artful works works Nibiru thus fashioned.
The lord then crossed the heavens to survey the regions;
From Apsu's quarter to the abode of Gaga he measured the dimensions.
The edge of the deep Nibiru them examined, toward his birthplace he cast his gaze.
He paused and hesitated; then to the firmament, the place of the battle, he slowly returned.
Passing again in Apsu's region, of the Sun's missing spouse he thought with remorse.
He gazed upon Tiamat's wounded half, to her upper part he gave attention;
The waters of life, her bounty, from the wounds were still pouring,
Her golden veins Apsu's rays were reflecting.
The seed of life, his creators legacy, Nibiru then remembered.
When he trod on Tiamat, when he split her asunder, to her the seed he surely imparted!
He addressed words to Apsu, to him thus saying:
With your warming rays, to the wounds give healing!
let the broken part new life be given, in your family as a daughter to be!
Apsu to the words of Nibiru gave heed: Let the earth join my family,
Ki, firm land of the below, let Earth her name henceforth be!
By her turning let there day and night be; in the days my healing rays to her I shall provide.
Let Kingu be a creature of the night, to shine at night I shall appoint him.
Earth's companion, the Moon forever to be!
Nibiru the words of Apsu with satisfaction heard.
He crossed the heavens and surveyed the regions,
To the gods that had him elevated he granted permanent stations,
Their circuits he destined that none shall transgress nor fall short of each other.
He strengthened the heavenly locks, gates on both sides he established.
An outermost abode he chose for himself, beyond Gaga were it's dimensions.
The great circuit to be his destiny he beseeched Apsu for him to decree.
All the gods spoke up from their stations: Let Nibiru's sovereignty be surpassing!
Most radiant of the gods he is, let him truly the Son of the sun be!
From his quarter Apsu gave his blessing:
Nibiru shall hold the crossing of Heaven and Earth; Crossing shall be his name!
The gods shall cross over neither above nor below;
He shall hold the central position, the shepherd of the gods he shall be.
A Shar shall be his circuit; That his destiny will forever be!

[Jbignes5]

Hard time figuring out what that means...

A very interesting reference. To me it sounds like what happened to the xtra planet not earth but I could be mistaken...

[sucahyo]

Why planet explode? How about split? There is prediction about moon splitting...

About Pyramid, it is interesting that when some word of hieraglyph is translated differently, it can change the whole meaning, example of current translation:
John Van Auken | Mysticism - Egyptian Gods as Metaphors

ANUBIS, the sixth sense
When one has taken a long journey away from home, one can lose the trail home. If one cannot find or recall the way home, then one needs help. Anubis, the jackal-headed god, is the symbol of that help. The jackal can pick up the scent of the trail traversed to get here, and therefore the way home. At every death scene in ancient Egypt, Anubis is depicted. He is the sixth sense that recalls the way home.

OSIRIUS & SET, the two brothers’ tale
In Egyptian lore two brothers were born. One loved God and cooperated lovingly with the creation. The other pursued self-seeking urges and interests, and took advantage of the creation, giving little thought to the consequences of his actions and appetites. In Egypt these two brothers were Osirius and Set (sometimes called “Seth,” and from which some Pharaohs took the name “Seti”). Just as in the biblical story of Cain and Able, Set grew jealous of Osirius and killed him.

ISIS, Conceiver of the Messiah
One of the greatest gods among the hosts of godlings was Isis. She was strong, enduring, and clever. She was not to follow the weaknesses of most of her fellow gods, seeking to mingle with the sons and daughters of man and their carnal sensations.

Behold, Isis was in the form of a woman, skilled in words. Her heart rebelled at the millions of men, she chose rather the millions of the gods, and she esteemed the millions of the spirits. She meditated in her heart, "Could I not be in heaven and earth like Ra, and make myself mistress of the earth and a goddess by knowing the name of the holy God?"

Example of alternative translation
True Egyptian Hieroglyphs

I began from where Champollion began. He started his work by trying to decipher few cartouches which are embedded in the Hieroglyphic text of the Rosetta Stone. I did far beyond that by studying carefully nearly 400 cartouches in different ears of AE history. After some time I noticed that those cartouches do not include two main phoneme letters which are the (L) and the (Z) phoneme letters, while the Egyptian names of men and women either Coptic or Muslims are full of those two letters. When I returned back to table of Champollion I never found them, especially in names of kings up to the New Kingdom! This discovery amazed me and greatly impressed me and this was the real trigger to my next work.

When I resolved this problem by real and correct deciphering of these two letters I started reading some AE Hieroglyphic words which have the same phonation and utterance as the corresponding modern Egyptian words. I realized then that I am on the correct path and that encouraged me to go further and deeper in my studies about the AE language.
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Ossama has provided many examples. When you adjust for the five fundamental mistakes, many more examples can be provided. This explains the strange connection between the nose and Anubis, because this connection still exists in Arabic in the word "anfu" and "nafs". The conventional theory detects Anubis as "inpw" or "jnpw".
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4. The goddess Isis was an AE depiction for the real Egyptian Holy Mary.

5. The god Osiris was an AE depiction for the Egyptian Holy Jesus.

I believe the later one is more correct.

[HairBear]

The original AE is also Enki or the serpent. RA or Marduk is AE 's son. Enki and and Enlil are also brothers. Enki was famous for messing with the creation of humans while Enlil was a militant goody two shoes. Cleopatra deemed herself as the goddess ISIS and is believed by some to be the true mother of Jesus or Esu, Ceaser was his father. So I have read...

The gods are always personified to the stars and celestial bodies even to this day. They are the Anunaki or "Those who came from the sky". A lot of stuff was written by the Sumerians long ago. Read Zecharia Sitchin, you won't be disappointed. These same stories reverberate throughout time and race, only the names have been changed to protect the innocent!

[ANTIQUER]

Jbignes5 and HairBear;

Please check out the source of these fantasies;Zecharia Sitchin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just another Haramien type fraud.

Al

[ANTIQUER]

Hi Rick;

I do enjoy theorizing on the purpose and importance of the pyramids, and have talked about that in the Tesla thread that Glen (Fuzzy Tomcat) started. I do believe that the pyramids are way older than is currently thought by historians, and that they were constructed by a very advanced civilization. I would also agree that they were utilized to produce power, and to provide for communication, and that the secrets of the pyramids have not yet been fully disclosed to the world.

What thread was that (with Glen) and how would they produce power or be used for communications? What would the power have been used for? I think according to the latest archeology the purpose has been pretty much determined to be for tombs/ funerary centers for Egyptian kings and the technology to build them bigger and better developed over centuries as they became wealthier and more powerful. The pyramids became smaller and they ceased building them as their empire crumbled.

National Geographic: Egypt Pyramids--Facts, Photos, Diagrams

Egyptian pyramids - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Egyptian Pyramids

Al

[sucahyo]

The original AE is also Enki or the serpent. RA or Marduk is AE 's son. Enki and and Enlil are also brothers. Enki was famous for messing with the creation of humans while Enlil was a militant goody two shoes. Cleopatra deemed herself as the goddess ISIS and is believed by some to be the true mother of Jesus or Esu, Ceaser was his father. So I have read...

They are in conflict with the second translation. There is only one god in the second translation, so there is no goddess. And just like I mention before I believe that the races that able to travel to the stars or celestial body are not god.

Ra is god, not the sun:

Along the very long and extended history of Egypt, starting from far pre-dynastic eras, the Egyptians worshiped only One God who is 'Ra3', an AE shorthand word which means 'Lord of the Universe' or 'Rabb al3aalameen' and He has been symbolized by the Winged-Sun. Therefore, we find this symbol on top of gates of all AE temples.

[Jbignes5]

To tell you the truth...

Hi Rick;



What thread was that (with Glen) and how would they produce power or be used for communications? What would the power have been used for? I think according to the latest archeology the purpose has been pretty much determined to be for tombs/ funerary centers for Egyptian kings and the technology to build them bigger and better developed over centuries as they became wealthier and more powerful. The pyramids became smaller and they ceased building them as their empire crumbled.

National Geographic: Egypt Pyramids--Facts, Photos, Diagrams

Egyptian pyramids - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Egyptian Pyramids

Al

I am sorry but when was one, I mean one mummy or any dead person found in the great pyramids? Let me answer that for you. NONE.. not one mummy or dead body was found in the great pyramids. In fact after they sealed up the pyramids, no one could enter them. Yeah try to move 10-40 ton blocks of stone...
They had to have another important use. Seeing that the collective weight of all those stones pushing them to the earth would make the perfect device to adjust the angle of the planet. Did you know they are built on a humongous flat mountain beneath the sand? They are also in the exact center of the land masses. And they are on the magnetic lay lines in that area. Too many coincidences and exact degrees of orientation to think that they were put there by man. I would rather believe that man was a mixing of the ones left there to perform what had to be done to the earth to correct it's alignment. AS time went on I believe that they forgot most of what they knew. Why because the original guys didn't want to give to much away. But they had a plan. They had all the information from their old world and Atlantis. So they worked on making a home for themselves and keeping the sacred knowledge. What if the story of Adam and Eve is only a metaphore? What if the tree of life was the knowledge stored in the library of the Atlantians? That would mean that Eve attained a higher understanding of things thru using the library and was exiled along with Adam.

[jtstatic]

Thiaoouba Prophecy E-book

This book also gives one possible explanation to things like civilization that existed on Mars, Moon bases, Pyramids, Atlantis, Le(Mu)ria..

In this book it was said that Pyramids were communication devices, to help communicate with other worlds.

I don't know if it's true or not (how one could even know something like that), but because it suits the topic I add the link here, if someone is interested. Well worth the read if you are interested in the topic and haven't read it yet. I enjoyed the book and read it in only few days even though I'm usually a lazy reader (some books take several weeks for me to read, if I find the topic boring )

PS. I also found very interesting that the mentioned star in the aforementioned article was called Thuban, which is a striking resemblance to the name of the book, although that might just be a coincidence..

Precession of the Earth's Axis

[sucahyo]

Regarding missing knowledge, king Ashoka once try to collect it but decide to bury it:
Hindu Wisdom - Vimanas

The Indian Emperor Ashoka started a "Secret Society of the Nine Unknown Men": great Indian scientists who were supposed to catalogue the many sciences. Ashoka kept their work secret because he was afraid that the advanced science catalogued by these men, culled from ancient Indian sources, would be used for the evil purpose of war, which Ashoka was strongly against, having beenconverted to Buddhism after defeating a rival army in a bloody battle. The"Nine Unknown Men" wrote a total of nine books, presumably one each. Book number was "The Secrets of Gravitation!" This book, known to historians, but not actually seen by them dealt chiefly with "gravity control." It is presumably still around somewhere, kept in a secret library in India, Tibet or else where (perhaps even in North America somewhere). One can certainly understand Ashoka's reasoning for wanting to keep such knowledge a secret, assuming it exists. Ashoka was also aware of devastating wars using such advanced vehicles and other "futuristic weapons" that had destroyed the ancient Indian "Rama Empire" several thousand years before.

Only a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some Sanskrit documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University said recently that the documents contain directions for building interstellar spaceships! Their method of propulsion, she said, was "anti- gravitational" and was based upon a system analogous to that of "laghima," the unknown power of the ego existing in man's physiological makeup, "a centrifugal force strong enough tocounteract all gravitational pull." According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet,according to the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. Themanuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima"; "the cap ofinvisibility" and "garima"; "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."Naturally, Indian scientists did not take the texts very seriously, but thenbecame more positive about the value of them when the Chinese announced that they were including certain parts of the data for study in their spaceprogram! This was one of the first instances of a government admitting to be researching anti-gravity. The manuscripts did not say definitely that interplanetary travel was evermade but did mention, of all things, a planned trip to the Moon, though it is not clear whether this trip was actually carried out.

[ANTIQUER]

Hi Jbignes5;

I am sorry but when was one, I mean one mummy or any dead person found in the great pyramids? Let me answer that for you. NONE.. not one mummy or dead body was found in the great pyramids. In fact after they sealed up the pyramids, no one could enter them. Yeah try to move 10-40 ton blocks of stone...

Actually many mummies have been found in their tombs in the pyramids, the best known being King Tut in 1922 by Howard Carter. Previously there was this group;

The 1898 Discovery of Tomb KV 35

The previously unidentified mummy thought to be Queen Nefertiti was originally discovered in 1898. French Egyptologist Victor Loret discovered KV 35, the tomb of King Amenhotep II, in the Valley of the Kings. The tomb not only contained the king's mummy but a stunning cache of other royal mummies that had been moved into Amenhotep II's tomb for protection from grave robbers. Besides Amenhotep II, the tomb contained the mummies of the missing pharaohs of the 18th-20th Dynasties: Thutmose IV, Amenhotep III, Merenptah, Sipah, Seti II, Rameses IV, V, and VI.

So some group went back into several tombs and moved the royal mummies for their protection.

There is currently this group;

Amazing: Intact tomb with five mummies discovered in Valley of the Kings (washingtonpost.com)

"An American team has found what appears to be an intact tomb in the Valley of the Kings, the first found in the valley since that of Tutankhamun in 1922, one of the archaeologists said on Thursday. The tomb contains five or six mummies in intact sarcophagi from the late 18th dynasty, about the same period as Tutankhamun, but the archaeologists have not yet had the time or the access to identify them, the archaeologist added. The 18th dynasty ruled Egypt from 1567 BC to 1320 BC, a period during which the country's power reached a peak."

Entrance into the tomb and examination of the mummies is scheduled for March 10.

The biggest reason it has been difficult to find the royal mummies is tomb robbers. All of the larger pyramids had been plundered long ago, probably by the same people who designed and built them.
Many of the mummies were destroyed by these robbers as they tore them apart looking for valuables placed inside the wrappings. This is evidenced by the many fragments of the pharoah's mummy found scattered around in his tomb, as in the pyramid of Djoser.
Then there is this report:

Strabo also wrote that the pyramids served as "tombs of kings" (Geography, 17.1.33). After the Arab conquest, knowledge that royal burials were accompanied by a wealth of gold and jewels motivated treasure-hunters to invade the pyramids using any measure necessary. Apocryphal tales of pyramid riches abound, such as Masoudi's description of early plunderers of the Great Pyramid: "They also discovered, in a large hall, a quantity of golden coins put up in columns, every piece of which was of the weight of 1,000 dinars [c. 9 lbs. or 4 kg.]. They tried to take the money, but were unable to move it." (In Vyse, Operations Carried On at the Pyramids of Gizeh in 1837, Vol. II, p. 329)

Strabo was an ancient Greek historian and geographer.
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Another reason why Egyptologists believe that pyramids were tombs is because the ancient Egyptian record explicitly states as much. For example, the Papyrus Abbott describes the inspection of "sepulchers of former kings" under Ramesses IX. The pyramid of 17th Dynasty Sobekemsaf II was inspected:

It was found, that the thieves had broken into it by mining work through the base of its pyramid, from the outer chamber of the tomb of the overseer of the granary of King Menkheperre (Thutmose III), L.P.H., Nebamon. The burial-place of the king was found void of its lord, L.P.H., as well as the burial-place of the great king's-wife, Nubkhas, L.P.H., his royal wife; the thieves having laid their hand upon them. The vizier, the nobles, and the inspectors made an examination of it, and the manner in which the thieves had laid their hands upon this king and his royal wife, was ascertained. [Breasted, Ancient Records of Egypt, IV.517]
Full article here;Why were the Pyramids built?

Not all of these thieves were successful . Several bodies of those who succumbed to various traps or accidents within the pyramids have been found.

Some mummies were hauled off and sold. The mummy of Rameses I was found on display at Niagara Falls a few years ago and eventually returned to Egypt.

The mummy's origins: In the early 1860s, a Canadian doctor named James Douglas illegally took some artifacts from Egypt, including a number of mummies. He reportedly purchased one of the mummy's for the Niagara Falls Museum (Ontario, Canada) for approximately seven pounds. The mummy is believed to have been stolen from a cache of royal mummies discovered in Deir el-Bahri near the Valley of the Kings in 1861, though this remains uncertain.

The Ontario museum: The doctor's goods became part of the Niagara Falls Museum and remained there until 1999. Among them was the mummy of Rameses I.

Full article:
Featured: Rameses I at the Mummy Tombs

And then there are the inscriptions on the tomb walls, The Book of The Dead placed in the tombs, etc.

In the 5th Dynasty, beginning with perhaps Unas, the walls of pyramid chambers were decorated with the Pyramid Texts, a collection of utterances that served as spells with certain functions for the dead (such as protection from harm, various rituals performed at the royal funeral, etc.) These text would later become the Coffin Texts and finally the Book of the Dead that was placed with the deceased. The purpose of these utterances, wrote W. Stevenson Smith, were "to aid the king in the transition between his earthly functions and the position which he was to assume amongst the gods after death." (The Art and Architecture of Ancient Egypt, p. 440 n. 31). Such texts are clear indications of the pyramid's funerary function. Smith added that "the function of the pyramid temple, on the basis of its architecture, wall reliefs, statuary, and relevant inscriptions, is the promotion of the corporeal afterlife of the dead king through the funerary cult, his continued victories over his enemies in the hereafter, the continuance of his kingship, and his deification, all achieved through the building and decoration programme of the pyramid complex." (P. 440, n. 31)

So it is clear they were built as tombs. Any other use is purely speculation with very little, if any, firm evidence to support it. Most, if not all of this speculation, appears to have been started by such frauds as Haramien , Sitchin and other earlier pundits and will no doubt continue due to it's easy availability and popularity on the web. That does not make it true, but only increases their fame, ego, and bank account.

Al

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What about Nassim Haramein allegation that grave robber are weak argument? He do have valid reasoning. Is there definite proof that there is grave robber? Do grave robber has much more advance in technology than egyptian?

Why geologist believe that grave robber is the same people that build them? Is there a custom where a rich Egypt King rob their grandfather grave to collect money?

The previously unidentified mummy thought to be Queen Nefertiti was originally discovered in 1898. French Egyptologist Victor Loret discovered KV 35, the tomb of King Amenhotep II, in the Valley of the Kings.

Can you give another example that show that mummy is found on a pyramid? Valley of the king is not a pyramid.

You should also post the text bellow the one you quoted in your link since it mention that mommies never found inside pyramid:
Why were the Pyramids built?

Much has been made of the fact that of all the pyramids of Egypt that have ever been explored, never once has the mummy of a pharaoh been found within. Mummy parts have been found in pyramids. Such discoveries include part of a mummified foot in the pyramid of Djoser; a right arm, skull fragments, and various other bones in the pyramid of Unas; an arm and shoulder in the pyramid of Teti; fragments of a mummy in the pyramid of Pepi I; mummy wrappings in the pyramid of Pepy II, and charred bones in the pyramid of Amenemhet III. In the center satellite pyramid of Menkaure, Perring and Vyse found a skeleton of a young woman in the sarcophagus within. They also found, in the main pyramid, part of a wooden coffin believed to be Menkaure's along with some mummy fragments. But never has an extant mummy been found in any pyramid, nor have any parts of a mummy been identified with certainty as those of a king. Critics of the pyramid-as-tomb theory claim that such mummy parts, rather than being detritus left after the robbers hacked away the mummies for jewels and gold, represent parts left from intrusive burials made long after the pyramid was built. Burials of this type are common in areas and tombs around the various pyramids.

The absence of mummies has invited all manner of odd theories about the pyramids' function. It has been claimed that they served as power plants, water pumps, astronomical observatories, sources of ill-defined "pyramid power" energy vortices, guidance beacons for alien spacecraft, and sites of mystery initiation ceremonies. In order to hold such a view, however, it is necessary to ignore the provenance of the pyramid and its place in the context of the overall pyramid complex and necropolis.