The OTG Pulse Generator Paper

[Farmhand]

Hi all, I have built this circuit and it is working great, I had to hunt for parts and used maybe the wrong type of capacitors, but i'm pretty sure they're the right size, I also used only the NE555 timers.

Here is a pic of it in it's box ready to put the lid on, with it set to 140 Hz- http://u7beag.bay.livefilestore.com/...005.JPG?psid=1

I have it connected to my bike wheel SSG so now I can run it at frequencies higher than its 44Hz sweet spot. Works great, fantastic circuit and presentation.

Thank you so very much Lee. And your frequency controlled SSG is totally awesome I wish I could put together something like that.

Cheers

[theremart]

Another one working.

Hi all, I have built this circuit and it is working great, I had to hunt for parts and used maybe the wrong type of capacitors, but i'm pretty sure they're the right size, I also used only the NE555 timers.

Here is a pic of it in it's box ready to put the lid on, with it set to 140 Hz- http://u7beag.bay.livefilestore.com/...005.JPG?psid=1

I have it connected to my bike wheel SSG so now I can run it at frequencies higher than its 44Hz sweet spot. Works great, fantastic circuit and presentation.

Thank you so very much Lee. And your frequency controlled SSG is totally awesome I wish I could put together something like that.

Cheers

Congrates on your build! would like to see scope shots of your output. I am using 555 as well, my 7555 just came in yesterday have not done more testing, but that is on the agenda.

Mart

[Farmhand]

Thanks Mart, I don't have a scope unfortunately, I would like to see it too. I,ve got some spare computers so I might try to rig something up with one of them. I don't know how it's done but I read somewhere a computer can be used as a scope. So I will try to find out how.

Cheers

[Slinky]

excellent document

Just wondering if anyone has tried pulsing multiple coils with this?

I love the soilid state as it's real low tech to plug and play. Getting a machined rotor to hold magnets at 3000rm aint easy but can say the ten coilers power from all those magnets be duplicated this way in theory?

Thanks for the fresh angle smw1998a

[theremart]

RE: Multiple coils..

Hi!

I have done it on my circuit of 2 coils, when the rest of my parts come in, I plan to try this on the Jetjis charger which has 10 coils.

I have charged a battery up to 13.10 V with my 2 coilers I let it sit on this with 12 V 250 Milla amp on the front for about a day.

7555 are in and are working. For some reason I had to replace my 4007 diode with a beefier diode but all is working great, I can adjust the amount of amps on input by changing frequency, Very nice to have this much control.

Mart

[Slinky]

single trigger?

Thanks for the reply, how to trigger multiple coils without each coil having a trigger or connecting all collectors? having a lil trouble visualizing the trigger style

Could 2 or more coils sit along a stack of welding rods next to each other, one lot of rods, multiple coils? How long can rods get before being too long in relation to the length of coil before hysteresis kicks in.

[theremart]

Hard to picture..

Thanks for the reply, how to trigger multiple coils without each coil having a trigger or connecting all collectors? having a lil trouble visualizing the trigger style

Could 2 or more coils sit along a stack of welding rods next to each other, one lot of rods, multiple coils? How long can rods get before being too long in relation to the length of coil before hysteresis kicks in.

The monopole circuit has only 1 trigger.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...energizer.html


about the 4th post down I uploaded a pic for multiple strands.

That is what I have for my 2 trigger setup.

[Slinky]

Hi theremart,

I think I may be slightly confused, sorry.

Will the PG fire all coils on a multicoiler with the schematic you mentioned and a or would you need a trigger wire for each coil if only running solid state?

The schematic says for slave coils but only one wire per coil?
Or should I read this slave coil as slave windings on an multifiliar coil?

Sorry again if these q's are a a bit simpleton but i'm having a real block on whether triggering multiple coil multiple filiar is possible solid state and if I need multiple triggers.

Is it a case of moving magnets or trigger wire on each coil? I can deal with the extra trigger per coil, I just have to understand it before I can confidently set about a build. Probably why it took 6 months of reading before I had the confidence to attack the SG. Works Greeaat tho

I'm just putting together my first 6 filiar SG and I really don't want the lack of a decent rotor to limit what I can get out of it.

Thank you everyone, really digging all the data here, it's a goldmine of succulent threads to munch through. No problems with the inspiration

[Slinky]

double post.

[theremart]

How it works..

Hi theremart,

I think I may be slightly confused, sorry.

Will the PG fire all coils on a multicoiler with the schematic you mentioned and a or would you need a trigger wire for each coil if only running solid state?

The schematic says for slave coils but only one wire per coil?
Or should I read this slave coil as slave windings on an multifiliar coil?

Sorry again if these q's are a a bit simpleton but i'm having a real block on whether triggering multiple coil multiple filiar is possible solid state and if I need multiple triggers.

Is it a case of moving magnets or trigger wire on each coil? I can deal with the extra trigger per coil, I just have to understand it before I can confidently set about a build. Probably why it took 6 months of reading before I had the confidence to attack the SG. Works Greeaat tho

I'm just putting together my first 6 filiar SG and I really don't want the lack of a decent rotor to limit what I can get out of it.

Thank you everyone, really digging all the data here, it's a goldmine of succulent threads to munch through. No problems with the inspiration

Only one trigger.

All the transistors fire at the same time from the single trigger, so that is why position of all of the other coils is critical.

On the patent monopole, Bedini uses a 555 timer to fire the built up charge in the cap to the battery.

The one I posted does not have a 555, but only one trigger.

It is sorta like hooking up a team of horses to pull the same load. You can increase the amps on this because it is distributed across all of the transistors in a balanced manner. ( if you have a good set of resistors ) I have found when I moved to the monopole it was very important to have higher wattage resistors and to make sure they all had the same values on the base.

it is good just to add one coil at a time till you get the hang of how it works.

You don't need multiple triggers, since the one trigger pulls the switch for them all at the same time.

No problems with the questions... cheers!

[smw1998a]

Isn't it nice

you find the root of a problem.

Found that my IN4007 was blown, replaced it and I have full control over the target circuit.

I have some 7555 on order, I am charging up a battery tonite. I am amazed at the different H wave patterns i am getting at different frequencies, this is the first time I believe I have found the negative 'H' wave pattern that John Bedini talks about. I will have to go back and review that video but all is well with my new toy :-)

Hi Mart,
Success! Great news. I find the beauty of this circuit is that it allows experimentation with all sorts of coil configurations, low resistance, short strand, high power coils work particularly well with this circuit, they would normally burn out transistors with a rotor because of multipulsing at start up. No such problems with this circuit. Just observe JB's 1:1 winding ratio between trigger and power windings and you will be OK.

All the best Lee...

[smw1998a]

Hi all, I have built this circuit and it is working great, I had to hunt for parts and used maybe the wrong type of capacitors, but i'm pretty sure they're the right size, I also used only the NE555 timers.

I have it connected to my bike wheel SSG so now I can run it at frequencies higher than its 44Hz sweet spot. Works great, fantastic circuit and presentation.

Hello Farmhand,
Congrats on successfully building the circuit My use of the 7555 timer was to keep the power consumption of the circuit as low as possible. The standard bipolar 555 can pack quit a punch and it's power requirements are greater as a result.

Thank you for posting details of your replication.

Kindest regards Lee..

[smw1998a]

Just wondering if anyone has tried pulsing multiple coils with this?

I love the soilid state as it's real low tech to plug and play. Getting a machined rotor to hold magnets at 3000rm aint easy but can say the ten coilers power from all those magnets be duplicated this way in theory?

Thanks for the fresh angle smw1998a

Hello Slinky,
The pulse generator could be used to supply the trigger signal to the 10 coiler instead of the rotor. The 10 coilers power does not come from the rotor magnets, it comes from the collapsing field of the coils. The rotor forms the basis of a mechanical oscillator and the pulse generator is analogous to the rotor, the coils and transistors will function in a similar fashion whether the trigger comes from a passing rotor magnet or a short duration pulse. The rotor affects the function of the coils and transistors in ways that the pulse generator can't but there can be significant losses with the rotor, proportional to the power and speed of the passing rotor magnets, where as, the pulse generator uses 20mA or so (based on 7555 timers).

Regards Lee...

[Slinky]

Cheers guys



Thanks for spelling it out for me theremart and smw1998a, penny dropped finally.

Block removed and feeling a bit daft. I wasn't taking the logical route through what I already know.

Much appreciated, massive respect for making the journey a bit less bumpy