Tesla experiment, arc IS NOT spark

[tutanka]

Tesla use copper sheet for coil because copper capture radiant better than other metals. Never heard tesla use other metal.

Paulo Correa patents use alumunium leave for anti gravity effect, and there are others too. Gray said to build the motor using all alumunium.

But conventional agree that more iron means more efficient motor.

AN DIAGRAM IS BETTER OF MORE WORDS, ATTACH HERE THE DIAGRAM OF DIPOLE TRANSFORMER GENERATOR . AS YOU CAN SEE INSIDE ARE USED ALUMINIUM AND COPPER. PROBABLY BECAUSE ALUMINIUM PLATE REFLECT RADIANT ENERGY ON COPPER PLATE AND IS USED AS NATURAL POSITIVE POLE AND COPPER PLATE AS NEGATIVE POLE IRRADIATED FROM SEA ELECTRONS. DIELECTRIC HAVE THE SIMPLE FUNCTION OF CURRENT SEPARATOR. IF THAT CIRCUIT WORK IS VERY SIMPLE BUT GENIAL AT THE SAME TIME. I HAVE FOUND NOW ON PENTAGON ALIENS BOOK AT PAGE 296: " According to Mr. Dort, aluminum is the best "reflector", copper the "most active" (electronically conductive), and iron the "magnetic core material". THAT CAN CONFIRM MY THEORY ON DIPOLE TRANSFORMER GENERATOR. SECOND DIAGRAM POSTED EXPLAIN THE POSITION OF PLATES..

[Jbignes5]

nice...

Well I wasn't refering to using aluminum for the electrodes... I know for sure that Tesla thought aluminum was the best metal around and now I know why. Thats why shielding should be Aluminum just like he did in the links I provided. The coax you show is actually something Tesla did use. I had mistakenly thought it was Tesla who invented it but it seems he used it a lot after Wardencliff.
Thats a very interesting design Tutanka. How much do you think that would generate?

The only thing I see wrong there is that you see negative as a separate charge and to tell you the truth nothing could be opposite. If that was the case then everything would be neutral. When they show - separated from the positive it only means that the - is less positive then the +. There is only one kind of charge in the universe and that is +. The only thing that makes a difference is that there are all kinds of levels to the positive.
Say for instance:

(+) = 1 unit of charge
.........(+)
.(+)..(++)..(+)
........(+)

This would be a 6 unit charge. The smaller charges revolve around the larger charge in the middle. We all know now that we can draw current from 2 like charges in a line. The proof is the Tesla switch.
.............(+)..(+)..(+)
........(+)..(++)..(++)..(+)
....(+)..(++).(+++).(++)..(+)
........(+)..(++)..(++)..(+)
.............(+)..(+)..(+)

This charge or grouping of charges would appear to have shells that we mistaken for electrons and is the reason we see spin in our universe. This spin is faster then we could see and is the reason that we can not see the electron. We can only see the effect of the spin. In the above example is only a 2d representation of a slice of the charge. It is held together via the charges flow from low to high potentials and is in constant motion. If for example we wanted to add charge the charge would grow with the highest charge being sucked into the core and layered out in shells. This process is the precursor to matter forming if there is any present in it's very small attraction sphere. Remember that matter is attracted to the highest point at this level of view to static charges.

So to put it right the battery has a neutral plate or the in of charges (-) and the active plate which is the (+). Both plates have a positive charge but the negative plate only has a fleeting charge that is constantly moving twords the active plate (+)....

[tutanka]

Well I wasn't refering to using aluminum for the electrodes... I know for sure that Tesla thought aluminum was the best metal around and now I know why. Thats why shielding should be Aluminum just like he did in the links I provided. The coax you show is actually something Tesla did use. I had mistakenly thought it was Tesla who invented it but it seems he used it a lot after Wardencliff.
Thats a very interesting design Tutanka. How much do you think that would generate?

I don't have idea at the moment because first of all I need to create an good radiant energy source. However now we have some important inputs including that diagram.. aluminum is used as reflection shield and positive pole, copper is used for absorb radiant energy and as negative pole.. I think that radiant energy is associated to the return of an ionized atom to a state of lower energy..

[Jbignes5]

One problem

I doubt you would see much from that design only for the fact that iron would act like a channel bypassing your plates. If the iron was not present then maybe you'd have something.
I remember along time ago about a story of a kid who invented an electric rocket motor. It was all aluminum but I failed to see how it would work. He layered plates around an empty space the plates were alternately placed from the ones below and above it.

one plate was like this:

..............()
............./..\
...........()....().+
.............\../
..............()

and the other plate like this:
...........()---()
.........-.|.....|
...........()---()

This is a much simpler design then I wanted to show but these were layered alternately and connected via little aluminum strips between the plates and connected with positive on one side and negative on the other. He was trying to make an improved layden jar and he found that when he charged it up it shot off the table he had it on. He said that if it charged up with no discharge it would keep going. Weather that is the case who knows but it does seem about right as long as you could keep it tied down and charged. as for generating one could put thin wires of copper inside the center of these plates and draw off some of the charges as this thing tries to fly up in effect giving it some balance as it pulsed and keep it from flying away.

Here is a link anyways:

Gravity Capacitor

[tutanka]

I doubt you would see much from that design only for the fact that iron would act like a channel bypassing your plates. If the iron was not present then maybe you'd have something.
I remember along time ago about a story of a kid who invented an electric rocket motor. It was all aluminum but I failed to see how it would work. He layered plates around an empty space the plates were alternately placed from the ones below and above it.

one plate was like this:

..............()
...........()....().+
..............()

and the other plate like this:
...........()....()
.........-........
...........()....()

This is a much simpler design then I wanted to show but these were layered alternately and connected via little aluminum strips between the plates and connected with positive on one side and negative on the other. He was trying to make an improved layden jar and he found that when he charged it up it shot off the table he had it on. He said that if it charged up with no discharge it would keep going. Weather that is the case who knows but it does seem about right as long as you could keep it tied down and charged. as for generating one could put thin wires of copper inside the center of these plates and draw off some of the charges as this thing tries to fly up in effect giving it some balance as it pulsed and keep it from flying away.

Iron can be not used if you create an high static field, I have just posted diagram of Donald Lee Smith of dipole transformer generator as example.. you can find that on internet.. I have just added words instead read number inside.. However if an high static field is used the radiant energy generated can be used directly to these plates creating pure electricity. You can use more plates not only two.. more plates more energy..

[Jbignes5]

I edited...

Iron can be not used if you create an high static field, I have just posted diagram of Donald Lee Smith of dipole transformer generator as example.. you can find that on internet.. I have just added words instead read number inside.. However if an high static field is used the radiant energy generated can be used directly to these plates creating pure electricity. You can use more plates not only two.. more plates more energy..

Check my post again I edited it to have a link to the report...

[tutanka]

Check my post again I edited it to have a link to the report...

explain me better.. thanks

[Jbignes5]

I hate quoting my self but this is the edited post with link.

I doubt you would see much from that design only for the fact that iron would act like a channel bypassing your plates. If the iron was not present then maybe you'd have something.
I remember along time ago about a story of a kid who invented an electric rocket motor. It was all aluminum but I failed to see how it would work. He layered plates around an empty space the plates were alternately placed from the ones below and above it.

one plate was like this:

..............()
............./..\
...........()....().+
.............\../
..............()

and the other plate like this:
...........()---()
.........-.|.....|
...........()---()

This is a much simpler design then I wanted to show but these were layered alternately and connected via little aluminum strips between the plates and connected with positive on one side and negative on the other. He was trying to make an improved layden jar and he found that when he charged it up it shot off the table he had it on. He said that if it charged up with no discharge it would keep going. Weather that is the case who knows but it does seem about right as long as you could keep it tied down and charged. as for generating one could put thin wires of copper inside the center of these plates and draw off some of the charges as this thing tries to fly up in effect giving it some balance as it pulsed and keep it from flying away.

Here is a link anyways:

Gravity Capacitor

This link has a design that sounds familiar to what you have described.

[sucahyo]

AN DIAGRAM IS BETTER OF MORE WORDS, ATTACH HERE THE DIAGRAM OF DIPOLE TRANSFORMER GENERATOR . AS YOU CAN SEE INSIDE ARE USED ALUMINIUM AND COPPER. PROBABLY BECAUSE ALUMINIUM PLATE REFLECT RADIANT ENERGY ON COPPER PLATE AND IS USED AS NATURAL POSITIVE POLE AND COPPER PLATE AS NEGATIVE POLE IRRADIATED FROM SEA ELECTRONS. DIELECTRIC HAVE THE SIMPLE FUNCTION OF CURRENT SEPARATOR. IF THAT CIRCUIT WORK IS VERY SIMPLE BUT GENIAL AT THE SAME TIME. I HAVE FOUND NOW ON PENTAGON ALIENS BOOK AT PAGE 296: " According to Mr. Dort, aluminum is the best "reflector", copper the "most active" (electronically conductive), and iron the "magnetic core material". THAT CAN CONFIRM MY THEORY ON DIPOLE TRANSFORMER GENERATOR. SECOND DIAGRAM POSTED EXPLAIN THE POSITION OF PLATES..

Interesting .

TT Brown use aluminum and insulator sandwitch to get thrust from HV.

I think to invite radiant you need to to use high voltage invitation.

[tutanka]

Interesting .

TT Brown use aluminum and insulator sandwitch to get thrust from HV.

I think to invite radiant you need to to use high voltage invitation.

Yes..radiant energy is created ONLY using high voltage.. However I have read more docs and Im sure that radiant energy is only an carrier for obtain transmutations .. kapanadze use Fe56 inside transformer, tesla seem use air and after pegmatites (lithium 6) , probably only that is the secret for obtain free energy but in all case you obtain as result an great useful extra green energy.

[tutanka]

lifter

Probably LIFTER work on the same principle using radiant energy and not ion wind as all peoples think..

[sucahyo]

Probably LIFTER work on the same principle using radiant energy and not ion wind as all peoples think..

Converting radiant into real work .

[tutanka]

Converting radiant into real work .

Yes.. why not .. in fact LIFTER use copper, aluminum and dielectric.. the same components used inside radiant enegy. If LIFTER work effectively on that principle design can be changed for optimize general performances

[Jbignes5]

The problem.

Yes.. why not .. in fact LIFTER use copper, aluminum and dielectric.. the same components used inside radiant enegy. If LIFTER work effectively on that principle design can be changed for optimize general performances

The main problem is utilizing the action or re-oragnizing the grid in which we live. You must be able to use the charges before they get to the source, otherwise they balance and go through the system much like ordinary circuits. Hence the reason for shielding and only exposing the high voltage to the environment when you want to attract that charges. After that one must devise a way to use the charges as much as possible before it goes out the system you are using.
It has been my argument that gravity and anti gravity has always been the movement of the charges in our own system (planet) to and away from our source charge in the core of our planet. This on rush of charges actually affect our matter in the downward rush twords that potential in the core.
It is not a wave and it is nothing more then what runs all of the motions in our universe. We have complicated something so simple because thats what we do. We complicate everything we touch with lines and lines of math when the concept is so simple.
Gravity and Magnetism is so simple in design that it has been misunderstood because we refuse to believe that it could be soo simple. There is no explanation that we could come up with for the mechanism behind it in our current models and thats because our current models are flawed and based upon assumptions that are founded in a math computation that has no room for the unseen. You can't quantify something you can not see. Instead of looking at all the information we have in nature we refuse to believe it is so simple but that is what it is. Simplicity is nature.
Lets take the arc and spark question. We can all see that between point a and b there is some kind of mechanism that conducts before the actual movement of charges or arc/spark. Something moves before the charges to line up in the space between point a and b. This is the same mechanism that allows lines of force to come from no where to form a "magnetic field" in a coil of wire. These lines of force are actually a conduit that forms from something that is not conductive for charges but is a conduit to guide the charges to the point b. This works in a reverse logic, meaning it forms from the source on a coil, which is only one side of the coil. That is the exact reason voltage leads current in our current system. Depending on the value of the source, high or low, depends on the amount of time it takes to form the bridge or roadway for the charges to be attracted over that bridge depends on the phase relation of voltage and the ability of the charges to flow into the system.
Normal systems that have wires and components act like an antenna that is exposed to the energy or charges in the environment to attract the charges into the system.
If one looked into the composition and structure of metals one would find something very very interesting and now fundamentally accepted. Metals are Crystalline in structure. Yet another crystal reference. Hmmm... Are we seeing a link here?

[tutanka]

about radiant energy ..

I suppose only that LIFTER can run using radiant energy but can't be right. However on lifter are present more docs on the web but anything explain better the principle .. However seem that Tesla use aluminum for transmutation and copper because is very reactive electronically. For that my mind suggest another scenario and you can see that in diagram attached.. after have read some docs seem possible that aluminium transmute in presence of radiant energy to high frequency.. in fact aluminum not only transmute (atomic No. 13) and acquire charge but seem to reflect also radiant energy. Tesla use also air (oxygen/nitrogen) and transmute these, both have below atomic number 19. Maybe Tesla and other inventor like Smith have reached an intuition.. transmute aluminum and obtain also energy directly similarry to an battery. Do you think have an sense that theory? Thanks in advance

TEXT FROM PENTAGON ALIENS BOOK:

"Powerful ionizing radiation can be used to charge field plates, or to
produce 'pure electrical energy". The energy produced, is vastly greater than the
electrical energy required to initiate the reaction, because it comes from the ZPR
("starlight"), and need involve no radioactive fuels or wastes.
These processes were explored by Tesla prior to 1900, and by T. Henry Moray, of
Utah14, while in Sweden in 1912. Tesla used aluminum and some Group I elements"