Tesla experiment, arc IS NOT spark

[Jbignes5]

Follow the design..

If you follow the design it takes ac as input and stores the ac after being stepped up into a layden jar. Once the oil filled layden jar hits the breakdown for the arc gap it fires into a split bucking primary of a one way pulse. Since the second transformer is oil filled as well and statically shielded it has a higher capability to resist breakdowns in it's own secondary to the primary. Everything after the special transformer should be statically shielded in order for the charges that would be normally attracted to the wires and transformer are cut off from the streamers that guide them. This allows one to only expose the parts of the circuit that you want to be exposed and interact with the charges of the environment. The antennas have to be balanced mass wise. This keeps the transformer in balance and no shorting will occur in the special transformer between the primary and secondary. The only difference in the antennas is their surface area. One will be short and stubby and the other long and thin. The short and stubby antenna will be the receiver and the long and thin antenna is the broadcaster. Just because there is a surface area difference it will concentrate the streams or lines to focus on the smaller antenna and that one is designed with another transformer that is oil filled as a step down transformer. This should allow one to use the output as a pulsed dc since the special transformer is the pulsed stepper motivator and the ac gets rectified by the layden jar and the arc space which is magnetically quenched allowing for a bigger disruptive blast that gets shot through the special primary that is bucking.
In effect this is the generator of environmental charge pump. Since there should be no charges that are attracted after it gets it final boost through the special transformer on because of the shielding all the charges interact between the two antennas and gets pulled into the cycle of the secondary of the special transformer and since I have given a way to redirect the charges into the load or output it should be self regulating based on the current the load needs.
One thing that I didn't realize until I went through this explanation is that the output side should have another small antenna on the negative side as a return of charges to the environment so the cycle doesn't have a negative effect of drawing all the charges out of an area. I will have to do extensive testing of the model I am working on. Slowly I am getting there and more ideas pop up as I go but that is the basic Idea of it.
I am thinking the difference between arc and spark are these simple facts. Sparks are ac and arcs are dc. And there is a big difference of the kind of shape of the electrodes one uses for the space. Tesla seemed adamant that they should be used properly. Round broad surfaces seemed to be better then a sharp pointed electrode. But then again surface area would change then and I think thats where I got the idea of the antennas being balanced mass wise and not in surface area.
It would be interesting to see what happens if one electrode was rounded and the other was sharp. That should have a focusing effect but I'll have to see about that seeing that sharp electrodes tend to spread the arc out.

[boguslaw]

"The Problem of Increasing Human Energy" by Nikola Tesla

"To create such a "sink," or "cold hole," as we might say, in the medium, would be equivalent to producing in the lake a space either empty or filled with something much lighter than water. This we could do by placing in the lake a tank, and pumping all the water out of the latter. We know, then, that the water, if allowed to flow back into the tank, would, theoretically, be able to perform exactly the same amount of work which was used in pumping it out, but not a bit more. Consequently nothing could be gained in this double operation of first raising the water and then letting it fall down. This would mean that it is impossible to create such a sink in the medium. But let us reflect a moment. Heat, though following certain general laws of mechanics, like a fluid, is not such; it is energy which may be converted into other forms of energy as it passes from a high to a low level. To make our mechanical analogy complete and true, we must, therefore, assume that the water, in its passage into the tank, is converted into something else, which may be taken out of it without using any, or by using very little, power. For example, if heat be represented in this analogue by the water of the lake, the oxygen and hydrogen composing the water may illustrate other forms of energy into which the heat is transformed in passing from hot to cold. If the process of heat transformation were absolutely perfect, no heat at all would arrive at the low level, since all of it would be converted into other forms of energy. Corresponding to this ideal case, all the water flowing into the tank would be decomposed into oxygen and hydrogen before reaching the bottom, and the result would be that water would continually flow in, and yet the tank would remain entirely empty, the gases formed escaping. We would thus produce, by expending initially a certain amount of work to create a sink for the heat or, respectively, the water to flow in, a condition enabling us to get any amount of energy without further effort. This would be an ideal way of obtaining motive power."

[Jbignes5]

Excellent analogy..

That is exactly what I am trying to create. We all know that the lines of force are invisible to our eyes. They must be matter based because the force would not be pliable then or even fractal based which is what arcs and sparks are. My thought was that he indeed stumbled upon the exact mechanism that runs all of nature. It just needs a static potential and the charges would flow twords that potential.
This is how I designed the second half of the circuit. By using the second half as a flow I devised a way to induce motion in the output based on that flow all the while staying completely separate of the flow itself. Kinda like his idea about harnessing the water flow.
Transformers are the key here. When made properly they can induce a flow from a flow and not short out if there is a balance between the coils that are separating the flows. even when my additions induce flow in the output it is still balanced because of the exposed antennas just like it was balanced in the special transformer he devised also known as transformer 2 in my circuit and that is the reason for the static shielding as well.
Static shielding in this case could be aluminum or zinc as he liked to use. I am thinking aluminum because it is easier to use but that will be yet another experiment as well. The reason he called it static shielding is that it is not connected via the ground of the circuit. It is only to shield the charges from coming into the system via the wiring and hence should not be connected to anything at all except for the other shielding.

[tutanka]

That is exactly what I am trying to create. We all know that the lines of force are invisible to our eyes. They must be matter based because the force would not be pliable then or even fractal based which is what arcs and sparks are. My thought was that he indeed stumbled upon the exact mechanism that runs all of nature. It just needs a static potential and the charges would flow twords that potential.
This is how I designed the second half of the circuit. By using the second half as a flow I devised a way to induce motion in the output based on that flow all the while staying completely separate of the flow itself. Kinda like his idea about harnessing the water flow.
Transformers are the key here. When made properly they can induce a flow from a flow and not short out if there is a balance between the coils that are separating the flows. even when my additions induce flow in the output it is still balanced because of the exposed antennas just like it was balanced in the special transformer he devised also known as transformer 2 in my circuit and that is the reason for the static shielding as well.
Static shielding in this case could be aluminum or zinc as he liked to use. I am thinking aluminum because it is easier to use but that will be yet another experiment as well. The reason he called it static shielding is that it is not connected via the ground of the circuit. It is only to shield the charges from coming into the system via the wiring and hence should not be connected to anything at all except for the other shielding.

I have understand that radiant energy in fact is an high static field created with an electrons sea and is possible to absorb that not only with coils but also using plates like capacitor/batteries of aluminium and copper

[Jbignes5]

Yes

Yes plates that act like capacitors are another way to change the radiant charges that flow into a system. But the key is to have a flow that is separate from the external charges. That way one can transform the charges into our "real current" system so that it can use it.
Think of it as real water. You wouldn't want the water leaking into your system and shorting it out would you? Well to be honest when we make circuits that pull this extra charge or force into our systems we don't shield it from coming in from the wires in our circuits and this is why we will never see OU from those type of systems unless they use the
charge in a novel way like Bedini and Mary Ainsley circuits. But there is one thing with those types of systems. They see very little in way of gains except for Mary's circuit which actually uses the charges as they enter the coil by way of the resistive coating on the coil. Then everything after that is recaptured to the battery as a percentage of the original because it leaks away.
I tried to give her some advice to add static shielding to see if it increases the yield back to her battery but I haven't seen much on that front.

[tutanka]

. But the key is to have a flow that is separate from the external charges. .

Hello..
Can you explain better that? You refer to electric source for created electron field and static field created? Tesla use transmutation of iron but I suppose that if you have an static field you can use ONLY aluminium/copper plates..Thanks in advance for your reply

[Jbignes5]

ok...

What I think is happening is that there is something that conducts potential and uses potential to line up between two points. I would assume that this conductor is not a traditional conductor but is much like a crystal. We all know that if you hit a piezo electric crystal it can produce 12-13k volts of pure voltage. Since that is already been established by the main stream scientists it also goes the other way, meaning that if you apply an electric pulse to the crystal it converts it into motion through it's own lattice or structure. now these are not full blown crystal that I have mentioned earlier. These are the smallest know crystals to ever exist and thats why they can not be detected. It would be like looking for a stealth bomber with radar and that is not gonna happen.
What I think is that since there are fractals all in nature and it kinda governs how it works on the most fundamental level it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to guess that this fundamental crystal is responsible for all movement in the universe. These crystals line up via their geometry. Think of a little four or 5 sided pyramid and I think thats the conductors of potential. When one shines a light through the bottom of the pyramid it will split up the beam into 3 to 4 beams. One going from each face. |> <-that is what nit looks like when it is going right. The light analogy should be replaced with static charges now. The bottom of the pyramid is the charge base and the 4 sides on the top are radiative planes. The crystal will have 1 set charge but each face will have that potential as well or a mirror of that charge. Because it is shaped like a pyramid either 3-4 facing sides on the top this makes it very directional when it moves and likewise very fast because at that distance, the smallest size ever, there is zero resistance to it's move or it is so small that it wouldn't matter.
These crystals when in a natural undisturbed state tend to line up with each other and are then called lines of force. Yes the same lines of force that is present on a magnet. They are very powerful and are capable of faster then light speed because of their shape and size. They are the conduits that light travels on. Everything that has mass has these lines of force radiating from it and in them. This grouping of lines looks like a pom pom from a center charge point. Thats because the item had to have something in it's core that would attract the matter to it. That had to be a static source and we all know how static works right?
Well to get back on track here these lines are everywhere we don't detect them because they are of ambient charge because nature tends to balance them over an area. I think the most famous attempt to see them would be the flickering of charge that they see in space. Those are just collections of charges that group up in the moment and it registers on their equipment as they travel around. Thats why they flicker. When we have a large source of charges like 1k volts it attracts these lines of force and then charges will flow to the source through the network that lines up geometrically or in a fractal way from point a to b because of the shape of these conductors of potential or crystals. once they line up the charges seem to flow in a vortex like action because of the geometrical shape as well when they stack up from point to end.
Now for your answer which you probably guess by now... These conductors can flow between two masses and the charges flow with them and will convey a more higher potential based on the point in reference to other charges on that network. They will all be pulled along twords the HV source thru a conductor because copper or any real conductor has a crystalline structure. Less resistance better flow. Put the conductor (real copper) in a statically shielded cover and the only potions that are exposed to the ambient crystals (conductors) would be the places you choose.
I hope this helps some...

[tutanka]

What I think is happening is that there is something that conducts potential and uses potential to line up between two points. I would assume that this conductor is not a traditional conductor but is much like a crystal. We all know that if you hit a piezo electric crystal it can produce 12-13k volts of pure voltage. Since that is already been established by the main stream scientists it also goes the other way, meaning that if you apply an electric pulse to the crystal it converts it into motion through it's own lattice or structure. now these are not full blown crystal that I have mentioned earlier. These are the smallest know crystals to ever exist and thats why they can not be detected. It would be like looking for a stealth bomber with radar and that is not gonna happen.
What I think is that since there are fractals all in nature and it kinda governs how it works on the most fundamental level it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to guess that this fundamental crystal is responsible for all movement in the universe. These crystals line up via their geometry. Think of a little four or 5 sided pyramid and I think thats the conductors of potential. When one shines a light through the bottom of the pyramid it will split up the beam into 3 to 4 beams. One going from each face. |> <-that is what nit looks like when it is going right. The light analogy should be replaced with static charges now. The bottom of the pyramid is the charge base and the 4 sides on the top are radiative planes. The crystal will have 1 set charge but each face will have that potential as well or a mirror of that charge. Because it is shaped like a pyramid either 3-4 facing sides on the top this makes it very directional when it moves and likewise very fast because at that distance, the smallest size ever, there is zero resistance to it's move or it is so small that it wouldn't matter.
These crystals when in a natural undisturbed state tend to line up with each other and are then called lines of force. Yes the same lines of force that is present on a magnet. They are very powerful and are capable of faster then light speed because of their shape and size. They are the conduits that light travels on. Everything that has mass has these lines of force radiating from it and in them. This grouping of lines looks like a pom pom from a center charge point. Thats because the item had to have something in it's core that would attract the matter to it. That had to be a static source and we all know how static works right?
Well to get back on track here these lines are everywhere we don't detect them because they are of ambient charge because nature tends to balance them over an area. I think the most famous attempt to see them would be the flickering of charge that they see in space. Those are just collections of charges that group up in the moment and it registers on their equipment as they travel around. Thats why they flicker. When we have a large source of charges like 1k volts it attracts these lines of force and then charges will flow to the source through the network that lines up geometrically or in a fractal way from point a to b because of the shape of these conductors of potential or crystals. once they line up the charges seem to flow in a vortex like action because of the geometrical shape as well when they stack up from point to end.

My question was another.. I think there are some ways for create high static field using electrons.. if I have that (high static fied) I can use ONLY capacitor/battery plates of aluminium/copper for extract energy or is present other better method ? Regards

[Jbignes5]

My question was another.. I think there are some ways for create high static field using electrons.. if I have that (high static fied) I can use ONLY capacitor/battery plates of aluminium/copper for extract energy or is present other better method ? Regards

No core transformers would do. Like the one I posted Earlier about Tesla.

[tutanka]

No core transformers would do. Like the one I posted Earlier about Tesla.

Im not sure about that.. for example Donald Lee Smith inside dipole transformer generator don't use coils for extract electrical energy , only plates of aluminium, dieletric, copper.. You have to read Pentagon Aliens Book of William Lyne to the page 294.. Powerful ionizing radiation can be used to charge field plates, or to produce pure electrical energy. The energy produced, is vastly greater than the electrical energy required to initiate the reaction, because it comes from the ZPR ("starlight"), and need involve no radioactive fuels or wastes.

[vrand]

Im not sure about that.. for example Donald Lee Smith inside dipole transformer generator don't use coils for extract electrical energy , only plates of aluminium, dieletric, copper.. You have to read Pentagon Aliens Book of William Lyne to the page 294.. Powerful ionizing radiation can be used to charge field plates, or to produce pure electrical energy. The energy produced, is vastly greater than the electrical energy required to initiate the reaction, because it comes from the ZPR ("starlight"), and need involve no radioactive fuels or wastes.

Interesting books from William Lyne

From: Pentagon Aliens

Page: 280
A similar process occurs in nuclear excitation of a light element, in which an
electron orbit is distorted by a magnetic field, or is excited a by a U.V. incident particle
beam, and repeatedly becomes excentric, so as to "gather" energy in the "L" orbit, then
emit it in the form of ionizing radiation, as the electron "falls" back into the "K" orbit.
This process requires a carefully synchronized and controlled excitation at the specific
NMR frequency of the element, under a specific magnetic flux density.
I soon realized that most of the "free energy" processes can be produced by using a
medium in a "box", to transform electromagnetic power from the ZPR. Based on these
processes, I developed the idea of what I call my "Triax ("three-axis") System",
composed of three axes at 90 degrees to each other, which are: (1) The magnetic field
axis; (2) the electric field axis; and (3) the particle beam axis (or "atomic axis", which
may also be considered as the "momentum axis" in respect to its use in flying saucer
propulsion). Any two of the axes may be used to produce the third, as follows:





This is an interesting design from Lyne that looked promising, based on the 2 diagrams above from his same book.



Looks like it processes air to make electricity.

Regards

[boguslaw]

About sink :

"I see you are starting to grasp how easy it can be.
First rate of change - Faraday law of induction allow us to use weak field faster to get the same effects as using strong field slower.
Earth field is weak.Earth field is huge and device is in area of one pole. Now, two N N or two S S magnetic poles push themselves away.If you see magnetic field lines seems to be squeezed.
We put small magnet inside huge one pole Earth magnet and preferably one pole should be inside and OPPOSING pole outside pushing away Earth field (bow shock).You can do it fast or slow , not matter - this is when we have to put energy (doing is fast means smaller energy is needed). What is important is very abrupt collapse of our magnet so Earth field will reconnect.And there is inertia with every energy and mass so it will be longitudinal wave of contraction and then opposite like heart beating.You have to have device in resonance with that and form open path separate from original power source, open path connected to Earth electric subsystem - here is flowing high frequency radiant energy,between positive air and negative ground.Recreating lightning using radiant energy (electromagnetic pulse) to generating displacement current in Earth capacitor.

That's why I asked to show magnetic field around small magnet placed inside huge magnet pole.Now you see that problem is two-kind :
- a method of generating radiant energy
- optimal coils embodiment to have smooth field having one pole inside surrounded by other pole (and opposite to Earth)

No more theory ;D I did found it the simplest possible."

[sucahyo]

Round broad surfaces seemed to be better then a sharp pointed electrode.

round surface produce higher voltage because it is harder to jump. About round surface and spike, maybe flat water surface that I use make arc happen easier.

I am thinking aluminum because it is easier to use but that will be yet another experiment as well.

Aluminium have properties that can mess up radiant, some say to better avoid it.

I have understand that radiant energy in fact is an high static field created with an electrons sea and is possible to absorb that not only with coils but also using plates like capacitor/batteries of aluminium and copper

I think radiant energy is sea that also contain electron.

My question was another.. I think there are some ways for create high static field using electrons.. if I have that (high static fied) I can use ONLY capacitor/battery plates of aluminium/copper for extract energy or is present other better method ? Regards

Most patent use lead acid battery.

Bedini mention that radiant energy enter between two magnetic pole in the coil.

[tutanka]

round surface produce higher voltage because it is harder to jump. About round surface and spike, maybe flat water surface that I use make arc happen easier.


Aluminium have properties that can mess up radiant, some say to better avoid it.


I think radiant energy is sea that also contain electron.

Most patent use lead acid battery.

Bedini mention that radiant energy enter between two magnetic pole in the coil.

I think Smith use same principle of tesla inside dipole transformer generator, aluminium plate (positive) reflect radiant energy and copper plate (negative) absorb that; iron is used for created magnetic field usng HV field for separate alpha and beta particles... what do you think about that?

[sucahyo]

I think Smith use same principle of tesla inside dipole transformer generator, aluminium plate (positive) reflect radiant energy and copper plate (negative) absorb that; iron is used for created magnetic field usng HV field for separate alpha and beta particles... what do you think about that?

Tesla use copper sheet for coil because copper capture radiant better than other metals. Never heard tesla use other metal.

Paulo Correa patents use alumunium leave for anti gravity effect, and there are others too. Gray said to build the motor using all alumunium.

But conventional agree that more iron means more efficient motor.