ELECTROKINETIC GENERATOR, Thomas Townsend Brown

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

This is the most important patent I have ever read. It is the same thing as a kelvin generator but uses fire/plasma as a charge carrier!!! Why have I never seen this until now?

[Altair]

Electrogravitics

Hi supercavi...

this technology is in the field of electrogravitics, or anti-gravity.
I highly recommend the excellent book "Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion" by Paul Laviolette.
There it is all explained in detail, along with all the developments by other researchers.
Needless to say, this technology has been actively suppressed since the 1940s.

...and it's secretly in use NOW by the military !

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

I think electrohydrodynamics should play an active role in electron avalanche systems, and in ion charge-carrier systems (are they the same thing?)
In my opinion, ufos must operate at COP>1, and this technology shows how to do that. Incorporating a vortex recirculation scheme probably makes it even better.

this seems to me to be similar to gray tube stuff.

I started making one of these things with a bunch of aluminum pie plates, each a little bigger than the last. I cut triangular sections in the middle of each to bend up for charge emitters. Each is nested inside the other. It looks like a flower with petals from the top. I'll upload some pictures when I get it assembled.

[dambit]

Hi All,

This is the exact project I am working on at the moment. I have successfully replicated several of T.T Browns early gravitator experiments that use oil as the dielectric, and am only a few days away from having a completed cellular gravitator built.

I will fill you all in on the results later (success or fail), but for now I will just say that so far, everything works as he described in his patents and reports.

The properties of the dielectric are the key, there are some people on the net who have tried using foam and ceramics tiles. All failed, clearly they do not understand the role the dielectric plays in the process. The lifters everyone is building use air as the dielectric, and because of this they are useless as anything other than a demonstration tool. A poor one at that as the air ionises and therefore will always be seen as the source of the lift.

Cheers,

Steve

[wrtner]

Hi supercavi...

this technology is in the field of electrogravitics, or anti-gravity.
...and it's secretly in use NOW by the military !

Not that secret. It is suggested through reasonable sources that
these techniques push the B2 bomber forward (rather than help
lift it up)

[Altair]

Yes, that's exactly what I was hinting at.
And the military will never admit to having, and using, that technology.
...hence the secrecy !
The only knowledge we have comes from unofficial sources, leaks, and deductions by people close to the military.

The real interest in antigravity lies more in its use for propulsion, rather than as a means to reduce gravity. That's why it has been so heavily suppressed.

[Altair]

The only problem with electrogravitics is that it requires extremely high voltages (millions) to work efficiently.

[dambit]

The only problem with electrogravitics is that it requires extremely high voltages (millions) to work efficiently.

You don't need millions of volts or lots of current for it to be efficient. only a few hundred thousand and maybe 2 - 5 mA (only enough to overcome capacitor leakage). The power supply I am using at the moment only cost me $100 and is capable of 180KV (max). It puts out an AC signal, so I had to rectify and smooth that myself to get a DC, so I guess the total cost was about $160. Not too bad.

Brown has stated that the greater the K value of the dielectric, the greater the effect. Don't forget that he was using very basic dielectrics for his experiments, with K values of 3 to 5 at best, and he was said to have achieved some very impressive results. Today, dielectrics are available with K values in the thousands, and they are not difficult to aquire.

Cheers,

Steve

[cody]

Ive done some of browns experiments as well. Its easy to get started. All i did was rip an old flyback transformer out of an old tv and rig it up to self oscillate, just like a bedini solid state or a joule thief. All it cost me was a few bucks for the transistor. I believe they are capable of spitting out around 30kv DC if you push them hard, 24V or so. Its enough to get some effects. JLN has some good info on setting them up. Have a look.

The Basic Transdimensional's Lifter Experiment by JL Naudin
A Lightweight High Voltage DC Power Supply - The LW-HVPS v1.0
A Lab High Voltage Power Supply by Jean-Louis Naudin
A Very Simple High Voltage Power Supply - The HV-HVPS

[dambit]

Hi Cody,

TV flybacks are perfect for lifters, but Browns cellular gravitators require at least 50KV and above to see any useful results.

cheers,

Steve

[Shamus]

Hi Steve,

I'm glad you're looking into this as my lab work has ground to a halt at present. And you're quite correct, high K is one of the keys to this phenomenon. I'm looking forward to hearing the results of your experiments.

[dambit]

Hi Shamus,

I am also pleased to be doing these experiments, as I have been wanting to do them for years.

When my internet gets back to full speed, I'll post some more pics of my setup. I'm only waiting for the resin I am using as the dielectric to arrive and then I can begin the propper tests.

This pic is the cad render of my mould setup

Cheers,

Steve

[dambit]

Hi All,

Well there has been a slight delay with the construction of my gravitator as I didn't order enough resin to complete the cast, but it will be here by next week.

While waiting I have managed to cast the plate spacers and fit them in place. I have used 3mm mild steel plates as that is the smallest I could get laser cut. They are a bit heavy I know, but I am still hoping to see some sort of reaction.

Anyway, here is a pic of the setup. One pic is with the polyurethane spacers and the other is with the aluminium piece that I used as the master for the spacer mould.

Cheers,

Steve.

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

Electrostatic Speaker Membrane Dupont Mylar C 6um 40M - eBay (item 120534551931 end time Mar-24-10 01:56:39 PDT)

I found this stuff that has a breakdown voltage of 225kv! This is the type of dielectric we should be trying for electrogravatics

[Inquorate]

Interesting stuff guys, i'll be keeping a keen eye on the experiments and living vicariously..