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    I've been reading & watching about scalar-waves(among other things) for several years now, but I still don't really feel I know that much about it. I'd like to do some experiments with scalar waves on my own, but first I figured I should ask some of my questions here, saving myself some effort.
    • what exactly is a scalar/longitudinal EM wave and how do they work?
    • how exactly does one go about creating scalar waves?
    • what equipment would be needed to create and test these effects?
    • what coil configurations are used? how many windings? what gauge wire?
    • is Konstantin Meyl's setup more effective than a caduceus coil setup?
    • what input(s) work & with what setup? AC? DC? Pulsed-DC? Square or Sine? At what frequencies? what current?
    • what are the effects of scalar wave interference patterns? how would one create these patterns?
    • how is it related to or how can it result in free energy? fusion? anti-gravity?
    • how are neutrinos involved (according to Meyl) if they even are?
    • what does the schumann resonance have to do with it, if anything?
    • can the hutchison effect be replicated through the use of scalar waves? if so, how?
    • how can scalar waves be modulated to transmit information?
    • what are the biological effects? can scalar waves be used to improve health? if so, how?


    If anyone can help me with any of these questions, I'd greatly appreciate it.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Dingus View Post
    [*]what are the biological effects? can scalar waves be used to improve health? if so, how?
    I currently have reference for the last one, the key is to produce od-negative radiant from the device. This can only be done with the help of aura reader or od-sensitive person just like Tesla himself:
    Nikola Tesla - The Complete Patents of Nikola Tesla - The Man who invented the 20th Century
    Tesla approached the testing of his more powerful systems with certain fear. Each step of the testing process was necessarily a dangerous one. But he discovered that when the discharges exceeded ten thousand per second, the painful shock effect was absent. Nerves of the body were obviously incapable of registering the separate impulses. But this insensitivity could lead to a most seductive death. The deadly aspects of electricity might remain. Tesla was therefore all the more wary of the experiments.

    He noticed that, though the pain field was gone, the familiar pressure effect remained. In its place came a defined and penetrating heat. Tesla was well aware that such heat could signal internal electrocution. He had already made a thorough study of these processes, recognizing that such heating precedes the formation of electrical arcs through the body. Nevertheless, he applied power to the dynamo in small but steady intervals.

    Each increase brought increase in the internal heating effects. He remained poised at each power level, sensing and scoping his own physiology for danger signs. He continued raising the power level until the magnetic arc reached its full buzzing roar. Tesla found that this heat could be adjusted and, when not extreme, was completely enjoyable. So soothing, relaxing, and comfortable was this manifestation that Tesla daily exposed himself to the energies. An electrical "sauna".

    He later reported these findings in medical journals, freely offering the discovery to the medical world for its therapeutic benefits. Tesla was a notorious user of all such therapies from this time on, often falling into a deep sleep in the warm and penetrating influences. Once, having overindulged the electro-sauna therapy, he fell into a profoundly deep sleep from which he emerged a day later! He reported that this experience was not unpleasant, but realized that proper "electro-dosages" would necessarily have to be determined by medical personnel.

    During this time, Tesla found shorter impulse lengths where the heating effect disappeared altogether, rendering the radiance absolutely harmless. These impulse trains were so very high that the deepest nerves of one's body could not sense the permeating radiant energy field. Now he could pursue his vision of broadcast energy systems without fear of rendering to humanity a technological curse, rather than a true blessing.
    Later text explain the effect as cool and agreeable sensation when the impulse length is very short (under 1 micro second).

    Orgone accumulator is an example of dangerous healthy device to use for human. ORAC produce heat and prickling sensation. The Correa's even reported a tan skin when exposed to ORAC. While some people report positive result, it is lethal to be inside for more than 30 minutes. ORAC should be improved to reach electrical "sauna" that Tesla achieve.
    Last edited by sucahyo; 04-01-2010, 04:00 AM.

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    • #3
      When we compare the difference between the terms Scalar and Vector we get a clue as to what we are really discussing. This same principle is carried into the Scalar Field of physics as well.

      Essentially, a Scalar does not have any direction associated with it. For example, your on your hands free cell phone driving down some freeway and you tell the party at the other end of the phone that you are moving 65 Miles per Hour. That is a scalar value. Now, if you tell them you are moving Northbound and going 65MPH, now you have a vector.

      Before we apply this to waves, let's mention the other two widely discussed waves in most forums today - Transverse and Longitudinal. Both of these terms are inexorably linked to the propagation direction of the wave. A transverse wave has an energy component transverse to, or perpendicular to, the direction of propagation. A longitudinal wave has an energy component that moves in the same direction as the propagation. Imagine taking a slinky and stretching it out some and then moving one end toward and away from the other in a rhythmic motion. The wave that results would be a longitudinal wave.

      But what about a scalar wave? By definition, a scalar wave would have no direction associated with it. I can give you two examples. First, imagine a river with a bolder submerged under the river. As the water rushes over the boulder, a wave forms above the boulder. The wave does not move, it has no direction, it is just there above the boulder. Next lets talk about a standing wave. A standing wave is a result of two opposing waves meeting at a specific point. You may see this on the beach when an outgoing flow meets an incoming flow and a tall wave peaks in a single place, not moving relative to the beach, it just stands up and collapses. The same thing occurs in radio waves in antenna systems that are not properly tuned. A wave can reflect from the end of the antenna back toward the source and meet up with another coming from the transmitter. Where the two crests collide you get a standing wave. It has no propagation direction, and therefore is a scalar.

      So what of an electromagnetic Scalar wave in the vacuum? Essentially it would be a specific non-moving location in space-time (relative to the observer) that changes in electromagnetic potential at some frequency. For example, if you put a pick-up coil at that specific location, it would register the EM changes. Imagine two AM transmitters facing each other having the same frequency and phase. Midpoint between those two location there will be a scalar wave location where the two waves collide and that would be measurable and would have the energy content of both transmitters. That is just one example where two transverse waves could produce a scalar. What if we had six transmitters? North, South, East, West, Top and Bottom? And all of them pointed at a single location? What if they used longitudinal waves? What would happen at that intersection?

      And we have not even discussed spiral propagation, RADAR beacons, VOR radials or all the other neat stuff out there to play with.

      Last edited by Harvey; 04-01-2010, 07:13 AM.
      "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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      • #4
        Harvey,
        While I respect the work you do on this forum and think you're a great researcher I think you're off the mark when describing 'scalar waves'. Eric Dollard puts it well when he said 'scalar wave' is an oxymoron. The scalar quantity is part of the wave not the wave itself and therefore an inappropriate term to use to describe the waves. It's like me saying an arm is a human, the arm is part of a human and inappropriate term to describe a human with. Sure if you're talking about characteristics of a wave you can talk about the scalar part of the wave. Likewise if you're describing a human you can talk about a human's arm.

        The beach wave has got direction the flow of water is unidirectional either inshore or out to sea depending on the phase of the wave. That electromagnetic wave analogy is made up of two oppositely travelling waves aka, as you said, a standing wave. While standing waves are indeed a fascinating topic of discussion calling them scalar waves is a very vague description. Tesla spoke about the propagation of these waves as being ~1.5c. Propagation implies direction, which contradicts the term scalar wave.

        I think the term scalar wave originated because it's electrostatic in nature. We think of voltage as potential which is fair enough it is a potential and electrostatic phenomena involve negligible magnetic fields so it's basically potential only. Define scalar - magnitude or potential. I could be wrong but this seems the only reason to call them scalar waves unless the person who started the term has little idea what their talking about.

        Please don't think I'm having a dig at you and I too am guilty of calling these type of waves scalar waves. I just think that in order to be listened to properly we start using correct terminology.

        Raui
        Last edited by Raui; 04-01-2010, 10:10 AM.
        Scribd account; http://www.scribd.com/raui

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        • #5
          More importantly that what a scalar wave is, how exactly can I go about creating scalar waves? The only real setups I've seen are the pancake coil transformer setup by Konstantin Meyl, and the caduceus coil setup by JNaudin. Before I go about trying to make either, I'd like to know if anyone here has had success with replication attempts, or if anyone here has even bothered to at all.
          Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
          This can only be done with the help of aura reader or od-sensitive person just like Tesla himself
          I'm not believing this for a second. I'm talking about science here, I shouldn't need some type of "sensitive" person in order for it to have any effect other than just placebo.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dingus View Post
            More importantly that what a scalar wave is, how exactly can I go about creating scalar waves? The only real setups I've seen are the pancake coil transformer setup by Konstantin Meyl, and the caduceus coil setup by JNaudin. Before I go about trying to make either, I'd like to know if anyone here has had success with replication attempts, or if anyone here has even bothered to at all.

            I'm not believing this for a second. I'm talking about science here, I shouldn't need some type of "sensitive" person in order for it to have any effect other than just placebo.
            If you're talking science then you'll stop referring to them as scalar waves which is very unscientific. Eric Dollard pointed this out to everyone and explained it quite clearly in these posts;
            http://www.energeticforum.com/90090-post71.html
            http://www.energeticforum.com/90344-post94.html
            Why should we take his word for it? Because he is the only person who has REALLY replicated this stuff and he knows what he's talking about. If we are to ever be noticed by mainstream science we have to stop using incorrect terms.

            As for generating them watch these video. The picture quality isn't anything to run home about but the information is all there;
            Tesla longitudinal electricity
            Tesla transverse and longitudinal electric waves

            Hope this helps

            Raui
            Scribd account; http://www.scribd.com/raui

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Raui View Post
              If you're talking science then you'll stop referring to them as scalar waves which is very unscientific.
              The point isn't what they're called, the point is what they are. If I said "the effect commonly referred to as scalar waves" you know I mean the exact same thing if I just said "scalar waves".

              Dollard's two posts don't seem to explain anything. He claims so much, yet gives no real information other than a bunch of "take my word for it" unsupported statements, if he "replicated this stuff", then he should at least have provided some information as to how to do so. If that was even really him.
              Last edited by Dingus; 04-02-2010, 02:41 AM.

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              • #8
                I take your point but that said if we knew the answers you seek then there'd be no need for this forum. They are the questions we are all trying to answer. I don't even think you'll find a universal definition for these types of waves let alone a universally accepted method of generating them. While we have a lot of great researchers on this forum, for the most of your questions you're going to receive nothing more but speculation. You could answer your own questions if you wanted to, go make a caduceus coil and a setup like Meyl's (perhaps even buy one, although apparently they're expensive) test them and come back and tell us what you've found.

                Some will tell you resonance is the key. Others will say that the higher frequency the better. Some might even tell you that it depends on the rate of change of selected parameters within a circuit or perhaps a mixture of these. My point is how about you help us find the answers because, right now, collectively we're not sure. Hell, one more mind on this thing would help out a great deal

                I believe Mr Dollard is trying to teach us. He's given references to many authors/publications but has anyone taken the time to listen to him? Have you taken the time out to read his works? You honestly can't expect for it all to be placed in your lap can you? Just because he doesn't post the answer plain as day so that a child could tell you every in and out of the mechanisms does not mean that he does not know how to do this or does not want to teach anyone.

                Raui
                Scribd account; http://www.scribd.com/raui

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dingus View Post
                  More importantly that what a scalar wave is, how exactly can I go about creating scalar waves?
                  Make a radiant charger capable of creating hundreds of volts from 12V input then charge a capacitor that can store thousands of volts with thousands of microfarads in capacity and then shorted it. You should get a blast. But be very very careful since it is lethal if you accidently shorted it with your hand.

                  It should show bigger spark than this (mine is 1uF 250V cap):
                  YouTube - Green spark of radiant recovery output

                  Originally posted by Dingus View Post
                  I'm not believing this for a second. I'm talking about science here, I shouldn't need some type of "sensitive" person in order for it to have any effect other than just placebo.
                  I dare say it because Gary Vassilatos write it in his book. example:
                  He observed(!) the curious manner in which these white discharges seemed to "race" around the disc edge at times, blending and separating with all the other sparks. Here was a greatly magnified example of Reichenbach's Od force perhaps!
                  Od force IS aura.

                  With impulses of 1.0 microsecond duration, strong physiological heat was sensed. Further decreases in impulse brought spontaneous illuminations(!) capable of filling rooms and vacuum globes with white light At these impulse frequencies, Tesla was able to stimulate the appearance of effects which are normally admixed among the electromagnetic energies inherent in sunlight. Shorter impulses produced cool(!) room penetrating breezes, with an accompanying uplift in mood(!) and awareness(!).
                  Note that the light can not be captured with camera available to him at that time, heat do not show up on thermometer. So it is what other scienctist would say as "Tesla's fantasy".

                  Not accepting aura means not accepting any literature that mention Tesla to have seen white flame coming out out of copper. Unfortunately the story of Tesla radiant experiment is full of it. If you don't believe in aura, might as well forget about radiant since the way Tesla describe radiant activity actually is not scientifict. A fluidic white corona coming out from copper? ..........


                  BTW, Eric Dollard notes mention the connection of dielectric energy that Tesla use with Wilhelm Reich Orgone on cosmic superimposition effect. I think Orgone is less detailed version of Odyle.
                  If you take a low pressure gas (in a bulb) and place it in two superimposed dielectric(!) fields then you get spiral formations such as Reich wrote about in his book COSMIC SUPERIMPOSITION

                  In case anyone want to argue or support theory that aura is radiant please use the thread bellow:
                  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...echnology.html
                  Last edited by sucahyo; 04-03-2010, 03:39 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Here are my answers:
                    It's my version (I can be wrong)

                    * what exactly is a scalar/longitudinal EM wave and how do they work?
                    It's a pure potential (pure voltage) wave. It's also called a scalar, radiant, longitudinal, negative energy, implosive energy, etc...

                    I think it "works" the same as electromagnetic waves, but it has other properties like superconducting effects at room temperature, energy amplification, it's not affected by ohm's law, etc...

                    * how exactly does one go about creating scalar waves?
                    you need to fractionate the electricity. I know 2 kinds of fractionation methods: inductive and capacitive. John Bedini, Eric Dollard, EV Gray, talks about it.

                    * what equipment would be needed to create and test these effects?
                    I have no idea. But with common equipment you could only read a part of these effects.

                    * what coil configurations are used? how many windings? what gauge wire?

                    in youtube there is a video that uses 300 turns of #30 AWG, but it can be many others.

                    * is Konstantin Meyl's setup more effective than a caduceus coil setup?
                    no idea

                    * what input(s) work & with what setup? AC? DC? Pulsed-DC? Square or Sine? At what frequencies? what current?
                    In a circuit I have replicated, the input is pulsed DC. But Don Smith or Hubbard uses high freq AC.

                    * what are the effects of scalar wave interference patterns? how would one create these patterns?
                    The effects are the alteration of spacetime. Whittaker and Ziolkowsky developed some usefull equations to "engineering" the effects. You need to control the phase, the amplitude and the frequency.

                    You can create those effects using 2 emitters. It's like a EMP gun, but using scalar waves. Then, you need to interfere the patterns. That technique is called Scalar Interferometry.

                    * how is it related to or how can it result in free energy? fusion? anti-gravity?
                    Yes, cold fussion, antigravity, transmutation, teleportation, etc... The matter is composed of supercondensed light. The key is to know that light is not electromagnetic. Light is electrorradiant.

                    * how are neutrinos involved (according to Meyl) if they even are?
                    no idea

                    * what does the schumann resonance have to do with it, if anything?
                    Scalar waves are in the whole universe, so I think schumann frequency has nothing or little to do with it.

                    * can the hutchison effect be replicated through the use of scalar waves? if so, how?
                    I think so. Maybe using a mix of Tesla Waves (scalar waves), and electromagnetic waves. I heard that Mr Hutchison used a combination of different waves.

                    * how can scalar waves be modulated to transmit information?
                    using electronic equipment. the art of transmitting information using natural mediums It's called Superluminal communications (I think).

                    * what are the biological effects? can scalar waves be used to improve health? if so, how?
                    you can alter matter and send biological information, using longitudinal waves. Anyone can alter the mood, personality and affect thoughts and emotions.
                    Anything is possible to do using scalar engineering.
                    You can reverse terminal diseases, you can kill anyone, you can rejuvenate, etc... Aging and/or disease is a lose of the information field. Throught scalar electromagnetics and phase conjugated optics you can alter the information and perform any desired effect.

                    That's my opinion. I hope it could help you.

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                    • #11
                      waro

                      As far as I can tell, I seem to have been the only person to use the
                      caduceus coil as a receiving device, rather than a transmitter of
                      "scalar " or longitudinal energies.

                      This coil has a lot more to offer as a passive device, rather than using it
                      for example.. as a weapon

                      I have been using a simple Cad coil ( with special amplifier) to monitor
                      the out put from the Sun and also record X-ray flares from the Sun,
                      since 2003.

                      Using this coil, have been successful in recording Solar energies that have been reflected from the Moon.

                      There are some very interesting physics to to be discovered
                      within this strange coil

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dingus View Post
                        I've been reading & watching about scalar-waves(among other things) for several years now, but I still don't really feel I know that much about it. I'd like to do some experiments with scalar waves on my own, but first I figured I should ask some of my questions here, saving myself some effort.
                        • what exactly is a scalar/longitudinal EM wave and how do they work?
                        • how exactly does one go about creating scalar waves?
                        • what equipment would be needed to create and test these effects?
                        • what coil configurations are used? how many windings? what gauge wire?
                        • is Konstantin Meyl's setup more effective than a caduceus coil setup?
                        • what input(s) work & with what setup? AC? DC? Pulsed-DC? Square or Sine? At what frequencies? what current?
                        • what are the effects of scalar wave interference patterns? how would one create these patterns?
                        • how is it related to or how can it result in free energy? fusion? anti-gravity?
                        • how are neutrinos involved (according to Meyl) if they even are?
                        • what does the schumann resonance have to do with it, if anything?
                        • can the hutchison effect be replicated through the use of scalar waves? if so, how?
                        • how can scalar waves be modulated to transmit information?
                        • what are the biological effects? can scalar waves be used to improve health? if so, how?


                        If anyone can help me with any of these questions, I'd greatly appreciate it.

                        In my view, a scalar/longitudinal EM wave is nothing but a pure electric wave. Magnetism has to do with rotation of the ether, electric pheneomena are movements of the ether without rotation. One example of longitudinal electric waves is the phenomenon we call gravity. See my posts here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post110045


                        Konstantin Meyls setup does not really work with longitudinal waves as far as I can tell. You may want to check Eric Dollards analysis of Tesla's magnifying transmitter: http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Eric_Dollard_...%20Dollard.pdf


                        LM waves can be created a.o. by oscillating an ordinary coil at multiples of its natural resonance frequency. With a resonating coil, you always have both components, but the longitudinal component becomes more dominant when the frequency is raised. See my article over here, even though this part is still heavily under construction:
                        Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki


                        Update: This is what Eric Dollard said on this forum about this:
                        http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post90344

                        Update: let's quote him directly, too:
                        Let us turn to the Heaviside Equation which is the most fundamental equations in all of Electrical Engineering:

                        (RG + XB) + j (XG – RB) = propagation constant squared

                        where:

                        R resistance in Ohms
                        G conductance in Siemens
                        X reactance in Henrys per second
                        B susceptance in Farads per second

                        Therefore:

                        RG is the scalar or DC component that is NOT A WAVE,
                        XB is the longitudinal or AC component and is an alternating electric wave

                        XG is the transverse or OC component and is a forward moving oscillating electric wave. RB is the transverse or OC component and is a reverse moving oscillating electric wave

                        This equation allows for all electrical conditions in time and or space and combinations thereof. The example equation is the dimensions of time (see: Steinmetz Theory of Transient Electric Waves and Phenomenon and also my paper: Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave.)

                        Example:

                        The air in the room; the room is filled with air and has atmospheric pressure of 2998 mB, your stereo is blasting away, the speakers are creating longitudinal waves having length and frequency and exert a oscillating force centered on 2998 mB (+ or – 10 mB)

                        RG is the air pressure, a scalar
                        XB is the sound of the stereo, a longitudinal wave

                        XG = RB, thus no transverse waves exist (XG – RB) = ZERO

                        Hence (RG + XB) is what is going on in the room, the disinformers have convinced you that this whole quantity (RB + XB) is scalar, RG is the only scalar component. It is DC and has NO FREQUENCY, no WAVELENGTH and thus NO WAVE! SCALER = NO WAVE - GET IT???
                        Last edited by lamare; 09-14-2010, 07:24 AM.

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                        • #13
                          SCALARBEAMER

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                          • #14
                            A great experiment of Naudins Lab

                            The L.M.D./T.E.M.Test

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by lamare View Post
                              In my view, a scalar/longitudinal EM wave is nothing but a pure electric wave. Magnetism has to do with rotation of the ether, electric pheneomena are movements of the ether without rotation. One example of longitudinal electric waves is the phenomenon we call gravity. See my posts here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post110045


                              Konstantin Meyls setup does not really work with longitudinal waves as far as I can tell. You may want to check Eric Dollards analysis of Tesla's magnifying transmitter: http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Eric_Dollard_...%20Dollard.pdf


                              LM waves can be created a.o. by oscillating an ordinary coil at multiples of its natural resonance frequency. With a resonating coil, you always have both components, but the longitudinal component becomes more dominant when the frequency is raised. See my article over here, even though this part is still heavily under construction:
                              Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki


                              Update: This is what Eric Dollard said on this forum about this:
                              http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post90344

                              Update: let's quote him directly, too:
                              Are these Scalar Waves Harmful for our body. I have heard of a product QuWave product from a friend who says that it is something help you tackle the problems caused by EMF and scalar waves. Is there any probability of the truth of this statement.

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