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  • #46
    Hi Roland and Lawrence/ALL

    Yes as explained the replication details are not present, plus you need custom mechanical parts, Hidro are not stupid they are a business they dont give out replication details.So we are starting a non profit drive to acquire it and help educate about sustainable technologies,. this is practical especially since i have been there to tell you guys that you wont be able to replicate it . not my choice , however i see opportunity for Hidro to stop gas fracking, this is an important issue for us.

    Ash

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    • #47
      Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
      Dear Ash,

      I talked to my United Nations Contacts about Hidro. I used the soda bottle water rocket example to impress them.

      The preliminary comment was:
      “I do not believe simple buoyancy can achieve the claimed results – snapping a thick cable. But if it is rocket science, I shall look into it.”

      At least one team from United Nations will investigate Hidro in greater detail. They will travel to Hong Kong to meet some “Bring-in” energy researchers and academics on a proposed seminar/workshop. I shall participate via Skype from USA. I am sure that they will discuss the Hidro technology in great length. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

      Travelling to Australia or asking one of their experts in Australia to visit James Kwok would not be a problem for them. I shall keep you posted on their progress.

      Lawrence
      Hi Lawrence/ALL

      Thank you for the updates, please keep me posted, i hope to raise enough to operate it to help every one ASAP.

      Ash

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      • #48
        Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
        Hi Lawrence/ALL

        Thank you for the updates, please keep me posted, i hope to raise enough to operate it to help every one ASAP.

        Ash
        The United Nations Person responsible for introducing High Technology to the Free Trade Zone, Mr. Yang, met the Hong Kong “Bring-in” energy researchers yesterday. The result was very encouraging.

        The Hidro will be seriously investigated. If the result is positive, vast resources will be poured in.

        I am glad that my “rocket science” explanation helped. Raising money to purchase a Hidro Unit from a non-profit organization may be difficult. Now, there may be dozens of orders from the Free Trade Zone Countries. There may be many more interested in licensing the technology. China will have a good outlet for its vast foreign currency reserve.

        James Kwok and team will be happy with the financial returns. The World will see clean, energy-from-air devices. The Multiple LCR resonance technology will be closely followed. It will be a win-win for the hardworking researchers and the Consumers.

        God will guide the progress. There is nothing to worry. Amen.
        Last edited by ltseung888; 04-28-2011, 02:02 PM.

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        • #49
          if you have enough money, wouldn't be easier to just buy one?

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          • #50
            Hi trog601/ALL

            Sadly you need an organization like ours with experienced and qualified members. Currently their license partners are seeking is experienced company in power generation and across the scope of operations fulfilling policies, compliance and legal knowledge as well as logistics manufacturing, funding and confirmation of funding in place is required.

            At this stage of commercialization Hidro is not available to individual purchase rather in form of license agreement subject to large capacity requirement and the above experience. In the future things may be different.

            There are many factors to consider in power generation which without the experience and ability to understand liabilities could go overlooked, which would effect many people involved and also the entire planet by not seeing a technology like Hidro deployed and supported in the world sooner rather than later. .

            There are some pros and cons with this i know my friends, GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY IS FUNDAMENTALLY UNIVERSAL FOR PROGRESS THO, that's what we would do if we had the money raised.

            Ash

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            • #51
              Ash my good friend

              Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
              Hi trog601/ALL

              Sadly you need an organization like ours with experienced and qualified members. Currently their license partners are seeking is experienced company in power generation and across the scope of operations fulfilling policies, compliance and legal knowledge as well as logistics manufacturing, funding and confirmation of funding in place is required.

              At this stage of commercialization Hidro is not available to individual purchase rather in form of license agreement subject to large capacity requirement and the above experience. In the future things may be different.

              There are many factors to consider in power generation which without the experience and ability to understand liabilities could go overlooked, which would effect many people involved and also the entire planet by not seeing a technology like Hidro deployed and supported in the world sooner rather than later. .

              There are some pros and cons with this i know my friends, GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY IS FUNDAMENTALLY UNIVERSAL FOR PROGRESS THO, that's what we would do if we had the money raised.

              Ash
              OH ASH. When will we find the technology and some body who is willing to share it as well. why are people so greedy.
              if we thought finding over unity was hard. it going to be even harder to find the right person to distribute it.

              keep up the good work my friend. you are doing a great job.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by toranarod View Post
                OH ASH. When will we find the technology and some body who is willing to share it as well. why are people so greedy.
                if we thought finding over unity was hard. it going to be even harder to find the right person to distribute it.

                keep up the good work my friend. you are doing a great job.
                Hi Rod, my money is on the open source crew, Peter L, Aaron and MANY others. Even Bob Boyce.Its back to the shop for us, Hidro is just some thing there, lets not forget

                "The only way we will ever have free energy is if we give it away."- Dr Peter Lindemann.


                Hidro is only some thing FOR THE MEAN TIME, it stops gas and oil drilling, so we can get on with open source

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                  Hi Rod, my money is on the open source crew, Peter L, Aaron and MANY others. Even Bob Boyce.Its back to the shop for us, Hidro is just some thing there, lets not forget

                  "The only way we will ever have free energy is if we give it away."- Dr Peter Lindemann.


                  Hidro is only some thing FOR THE MEAN TIME, it stops gas and oil drilling, so we can get on with open source
                  Praise the Lord!

                  I dreamed about the Hidro. Another Divine Revelation came in a dream. If the Hidro is Rocket Science, can it be changed into a rotational device? The Pulsed Pendulum was changed to Pulsed Rotation to achieve high efficiency (e.g. the 225 HP Pulse Motor). Can the Hidro be changed into a rotational pulsed wheel?

                  Each capsule can be thought of as a bullet. Each can have compressed air and water. It will then act like a machine gun! Each bullet will provide the Pulse Force needed to rotate a wheel. The energy comes from the compressed air and gravity. The water will be ejected out (vertically downwards?) by the compressed air. The compressed air will cool rapidly.

                  The energy required is Energy from Air + Energy from Gravity (if vertically mounted.) The air will be cooled (global cooling?) with the adiabatic expansion. The “bullets” can be designed to rotate a much smaller wheel. The diameter may not need to be 15 meters. Can our top mechanical engineers modify the machine gun mechanism to fire “compressed air + water” bullets? Can it be noiseless?

                  I am sure that Ash is right. Hidro is only some thing FOR THE MEAN TIME, My personal preference is the open source multiple LCR resonance circuits.

                  Divine Revelations come. They are not only for new inventions. They can change existing inventions in major ways. Amen.

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                  • #54
                    Adiabatic Process

                    Adiabatic Process

                    From: Adiabatic process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                    Adiabatic process can occur if the container of the system has thermally-insulated walls or the process happens in an extremely short time, so that there is no opportunity for significant heat exchange…..

                    One opposite extreme—allowing heat transfer with the surroundings, causing the temperature to remain constant….isothermal.

                    A transformation of a thermodynamic system can be considered adiabatic when it is quick enough that no significant heat is transferred between the system and the outside. At the opposite extreme, a transformation of a thermodynamic system can be considered isothermal if it is slow enough so that the system's temperature remains constant by heat exchange with the outside.
                    Thermal energy of the "bullet" is used! Global Cooling via the Hidro is possible.

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                    • #55
                      Street cleaning jet as source of power?

                      Instead of the complexity of changing "bullets", we can use the "air+water" street cleaning jet.

                      In that "air+water" jet, compressed air and water are mixed and ejected out at high velocity to clean the streets (at least in Hong Kong). Some of the energy is the adiabatic expansion of air.

                      The “air+water” jet provides a much higher force than compressed air alone to turn a turbine. The system will provide global cooling instead of global warming.

                      I believe I read somewhere before that such a device already existed. The Inventor claimed overunity. But without the theory and financial backing, that device remained in the back burner.

                      Hidro is a brilliant piece of engineering. It is unlikely to be the top bring-in energy machine. I still prefer multiple LCR circuits in resonance.

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                      • #56
                        can anyone provide updates on this?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                          Instead of the complexity of changing "bullets", we can use the "air+water" street cleaning jet.

                          In that "air+water" jet, compressed air and water are mixed and ejected out at high velocity to clean the streets (at least in Hong Kong). Some of the energy is the adiabatic expansion of air.

                          The “air+water” jet provides a much higher force than compressed air alone to turn a turbine. The system will provide global cooling instead of global warming.

                          I believe I read somewhere before that such a device already existed. The Inventor claimed overunity. But without the theory and financial backing, that device remained in the back burner.

                          Hidro is a brilliant piece of engineering. It is unlikely to be the top bring-in energy machine. I still prefer multiple LCR circuits in resonance.
                          Hi Lawrence or Ash. Are there any updates for 2012 on Hidro+?

                          Regards

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                          • #58
                            Hi tt88 and all

                            Yes they made a preview of their video power to the people a while ago, which had the Queensland university there validating the device, (taken down now) at the moment its very hard to get a license off them , they are screening licensing partners, you need to meet their stick requirements, like having a power distribution license and being experienced in power generation , lets not forget a few million, most would not qualify at this time, its not a portable gneset if you have a lot of money , you will sure get the device put it that way .

                            Its idle ATM like EBM, Black light power (to the best of my knowledge)

                            Ash

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                            • #59
                              HI All

                              A while ago, Hidro put up a video that they made power to the people (we were present in some of the footage) which showed a lot of third parties there who validated the device, some were from the Queensland university , all were on camera giving the confirm to what they saw was REAL.

                              Here are some Screen shots
                              kwok004 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
                              kwok003 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
                              kwok002 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

                              They are from the Queensland university (not Panacea)


                              Ash
                              Last edited by ashtweth; 03-02-2012, 11:26 PM.

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                              • #60
                                Calculation Spreadsheet

                                Hi

                                I have created this spreadsheet and mathematical derivation a while ago. I have started playing with a similar idea even before I read of the Hidro, but tried 3 different setups and none of it worked, until finally I used the simplest one of them all which does in fact seem to work.

                                The easiest way to think about a possible reason as to why this might work is considering the case of 100% compression and expansion processes. Then you can simply take out at the top with a turbine what you put in at the bottom and you gain the work done by the buoyancy force as the vessel moves upwards.

                                Of course, completely reversible processes are not practical since it will take a long time to do (you can come very close but it will be slow).

                                The derived model and accompanying spreadsheet allows you to experiment with different parameters. It will only work in certain pressure regimes for certain values of efficiency, which is important to know if you are considering replicating this device.

                                The text document is attached in pdf format. The spreadsheet can be downloaded from Google Docs using this link.

                                Let me know if you have questions. This is intended just as proof of concept. I have not calculated power output (energy/time), only the net energy output per cycle. I can do that using hydrodynamics but it is not needed in order to prove that in principle this should be able to work. If you see an error in the derivation please let me know.
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