Steorn is open -Panacea has a license

[jibbguy]

Sean McCarthy is about as far from Joe Newman as you can get and still be in the same general business.

If you want to insult someone, at least make an effort to support your claims.

[Ted Ewert]

Newman may be a few bricks short of a load, but his motor illustrates some principals that few people fully understand. Those principals can be used in other configurations to great advantage, even in the Steorn machines. Anyone trying to design a high efficiency pulse motor owes it to themselves to build and study his motor.

Ted

[ashtweth]

Hi Ted/Jib ALL.

Newman is in the new production, i really do want the Steorn to perform for every one as it can let the cat out of the bag. We have a history since Nathan subbfield of devices that need security, to be resurrected and even validated.

The infrastructure we propose can do this and you guys are the engineers that already have a natural aptitude needed to train people and make them understand. The only ones i would say. Ted is a little further ahead in pulse motors research then Mr PHD. Its amazing at how this genre has evolved.

[tjnlsn255]

Hi Ash,

How is the Orbo rotor kit coil winding coming along?

Can you tell us what size toroids and what gauage wire and how much wire per coil?

Hopes and Dreams....

Tj

[abb8279]

When Steorn first came out with claims of a over-unity machine I was under the impression that it was a pure magnet motor; no electronics involved. Was the original Orbo a magnet motor and they have since decided to go with an electromagnetic device or did I have a misconseption of what the technology was?

IMO the best and simplest way to prove over-unity is to present an all magnet motor. That way everyone can clearly see that there are 0 watts in and infinate watts out - over unity proven.

[Bodhi]

PM ORBO is TABU

When Steorn first came out with claims of a over-unity machine I was under the impression that it was a pure magnet motor; no electronics involved. Was the original Orbo a magnet motor and they have since decided to go with an electromagnetic device or did I have a misconseption of what the technology was?

IMO the best and simplest way to prove over-unity is to present an all magnet motor. That way everyone can clearly see that there are 0 watts in and infinate watts out - over unity proven.

Sure, you are right, however PM (permanent magnets) ORBO is TABU long time ago

[abb8279]

Sure, you are right, however PM (permanent magnets) ORBO is TABU long time ago

So the original Orbo was suppressed? It must have scared the **** out of the cabal.

[TanTric]

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it was not supressed! if that had happen why this EM version its in progression and was not allready supressed also?...

the public demonstration of that device haved failed! please read steorn history to know more about that!

hugs

So the original Orbo was suppressed? It must have scared the **** out of the cabal.

[ashtweth]

Hi All, good to see every one back . We are putting a few coats of paint on the cores ATM and re winding 8 coils for the orbo version, the original cores had plastic on there which was too much, the shelite did not work well either. sadly.

Just want to say that to all that i meant well before about keeping the posts as direct as we can, i hope i didn't offend any one and contrary to popular belief Ash is on YOUR side Perhaps i could of been a little but more "polite" in it, any how its never practical to take the road that some others have taken in being overly provocative to other members. For that i do apologize for my role in it.

I hope you guys come back and look at this thread with an open mind and we can all validate it together.There are some tense times ahead with the gulf and gaslands drilling ( they are even going to drill for natural gas in Aust to pollute the ground water) .

So we all need to stick together, it will be a great victory for us ALL to get some results with the Steorn, we hope to have the windings and first snaps of the device competed this weekend.

In the utmost sincerity.
Ash

[abb8279]

This was the oringinal orbo. Nothing but magnets. Of course, the public demonstration failed and there is speculation as to why. Some say that steorn is a scam but I think I remember reading Tom Bearden suggesting that they might have been sabotaged.

What does this forum say regarding the original orbo?

[abb8279]

Ash -

Why would anyone want to pay Steorn rent for the electromagnetic ordo when Bearden and Bedini have published their circuts and skematics? Why not just build a magnetic wankel or any number of other workable devices for free?

[TanTric]

@abb8279 , the bedini device is not a generator of extra energy! but if you show me one that do that while sustaining ifself i will change my opinion!

i have 3 setups here in my lab, none of them will achive OU with the schematics presently published...

orbo produces more output that input while running itself, at least is what they claim!

Ash -

Why would anyone want to pay Steorn rent for the electromagnetic ordo when Bearden and Bedini have published their circuts and skematics? Why not just build a magnetic wankel or any number of other workable devices for free?

[abb8279]

Tantric - you asked previously why a magnet motor would be suppressed but not an electromagnetic motor? The answer is becasue trolls cannot easily lie and say the magnet motor does not work when clearly it does. With bedini or ther electromagnetic stuff people can lie and say they don't work and nobody knows who is telling the truth.

That is why magnet motors scare the **** out of the cabal - they can't lie about it. Even people who know nothing about electronics or free energy or energy from the vacuum can look at a magnet motor and clearly see that it is a free energy source. The magnet motor is the best way to prove free energy to all people.

[TanTric]

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there is no such thing as a viable working magnet motor prooved and replicated by the open public!

the only one i have seen working was the H. Jonson. Even the parendev stuff was a scam, Dr sterling tryed to replicate it without sucess!

but you might like to know, that a magnet motor will never be a viable solution... since it will work 24 hours per day, in a short period of time the magnets will be demagnetized!

there's one thing called "degaussing" that happens when you put a magnet agains other, and so the power will be weaker till it went out!

but lets say if they can last a year, the costs with energy will not be much smaller that what you pay for your electric bill at this time! because to power a home you will need big magnets and they are very expensive, and the resources to make them are limited!

the same thing happens with Electro Magnetic motors... but in the case of steorn this dont influence so much because its an atraction motor, there's no electro magnets pulsing the rotor!

[abb8279]

there is no such thing as a viable working magnet motor prooved and replicated by the open public!

the only one i have seen working was the H. Jonson. Even the parendev stuff was a scam, Dr sterling tryed to replicate it without sucess!

but you might like to know, that a magnet motor will never be a viable solution... since it will work 24 hours per day, in a short period of time the magnets will be demagnetized!

there's one thing called "degaussing" that happens when you put a magnet agains other, and so the power will be weaker till it went out!

but lets say if they can last a year, the costs with energy will not be much smaller that what you pay for your electric bill at this time! because to power a home you will need big magnets and they are very expensive, and the resources to make them are limited!

the same thing happens with Electro Magnetic motors... but in the case of steorn this dont influence so much because its an atraction motor, there's no electro magnets pulsing the rotor!

Alinco magnets have a low coersive force so yes, they will demagnetize. However, neodymium and ceramic magnets do not demagnetize easily. But as you said, lets say the motor runs for 1 year and lets say its puting out 10 kw non-stop. At the end of the year you just remagnatize the magents for a small amount of energy. So you have a very good source of cheap clean energy where you only need to "refuel" you motor once a year.

However, that being said, I seriously doubt that neo magnets would run down in a years time. I think they would last for several years.