Steorn is open -Panacea has a license

[juju]

steorn

personally,

i dont believe them...

first a mechanical device, then a permanent magnet motor, and now an "attraction" motor?

if they lied in the first and second, why now would be different?

in the public demo, they showed overunity in the scope, but come on...

with just one generator coil they were getting more output that input?

that does not fit in my head!

and the more funny thing, Sean have sayd that the rotor did slow down when he aproached the generator coil on the demo... so if it was there 4 coils on load, maybe the rotor will completely stop?

a lot of people think they canceled BEMF... yes shore, but just in the drive coils, the toroids will never be affected by an outside magnet...

but... we should wait, i dont know ash, but i believe he is going to bring the truth soon!

[Mr.Whip]

Steorn Orbo

Hello Everyone, I found some great info on reproduction of the orbo device at
The JLN Labs home page Lots of great tips on how to correctly wind the toroids interesting they add a wind around the Circum. for every layer of windings around the toroid. and the correct placment of the toroids between the N & S magnets. Plus other great test and measurements. Check out the Videos there. Im still reading and checking into the Nanocrystalline toroids.
Interesting Very Interesting.

Regards Randy W.

PS> Someone Please save us from BP.

[ashtweth]

The importance of Steorn is not the actual utility of the device itself.

It is part of the "breaking of the ice": A free energy device publicly displayed and being marketed... That withstands any debunking attempts, and cannot be ignored.

It and others could be the "paradigm breaker" that makes continuing to deny the existence of these things sound too ridiculous and stupid... even for them

And that is more important than it may sound at first. When there are no more barriers for our major universities to openly study these things, no more excuses not to, when plausible deniability is destroyed... THEY WILL FINALLY COME OUT from the dark and be available to us all.

Even the wholly-controlled corporate-owned media will be forced to report on them: Because in the end they are cowards... who know they are guilty and could easily be proved to be... and eventually won't take the risk to stay quiet any more.

Then, it's all over for oil and coal.

Here is their "problem":

> They have gotten away with suppression for decades... Even a century.

> How do they now admit they were totally wrong, and go ahead with Disclosure of FE, without it looking blatantly suspicious.. Even going to prison?

What we are seeing in these last two years is their "solution". It is to sloooowly bring these things out one at a time; in a way that precludes more study by universities... Until they are eventually forced to allow more study by the inertia of the new "discoveries". "Coincidentally", their buddies in energy corporations are still making literally Trillions in profits while this slow release goes on. While the releases slowly come to schedule, others (like we see in these forums), continue to do what ever they can get away with to attempt to stop "unauthorized" releases.

Because they all understand this: That open University study of the things we have been calling for to properly be studied, ENDS THE REIGN OF OIL AND COAL. Flat ends them; in 2 or 3 years; as soon as the world can tool-up to manufacture the new technologies. Because the universities will confirm what we here have been saying about these technologies... and free energy will be a reality, not a dream.

But there is "danger" in this plan... the "wildcard" here is what they cannot control. If it gets away from them, if the Release is too fast... then the questions with no plausible answers get asked... and someone has to go down for it.

Like the CEO of General Electric (...when Billions in Consumer Sales are lost from the news that they are really a gang of suppressing sociopaths). Or the former and present heads of government agencies and other bureaucrats, when it is found that they actively worked to help suppress clean, cheap and SAFE technologies to help their corporate paymasters maintain their marketing positions and power. Or the corporate officers of the energy corps... When further investigation finally breaks what 30 minutes of internet search can reveal: That they clearly, routinely, and illegally control the energy commodities markets; and thus also manipulate public stock as well... On a scale so huge, it makes Madoff look like a guy selling bad hot dogs on the street.

Nobody involved wants to go to jail over this stuff, i am sure than in their own minds, they think it was OK and justified because "every one else was doing it".. lol that doesn't work for teenagers, it wont work for them

So there is much more to all this than a little spinning disk encased in transparent plastic. It is the eventual ending of the energy giants' illegal monopolies (including the "public electrical utilities" that are really nearly all privately held corporations in the US, whose stocks are ALWAYS the "bluest" of the "blue chips", even in times of recession). The ending of long-held and long-taught false scientific principals and theories; that once made obvious by events, look as though they should have been discarded DECADES ago (lol the embarrassment to the mainstream scientific community will be HUGE, and many of the "leaders" of it are toast when the Truth comes out, and they are smart enough to know it ).

In essence, it will be the ending of a vast amount of control over nearly aspect of our society regarding the topic "energy".

And it IS coming... no matter how they try to slow it down. This is like a flat board with hundreds of marbles on it... tilt the board up on one side, and the marbles start rolling. How many marbles can you grab before they all slide off?

... Not enough

Looks like Bilderberg are going for Iran now too

[thedude]

Looks like Bilderberg are going for Iran now too

Well that was bound to happen I guess.

The elitists literally make me feel ill when i look at photo shoots and gatherings of the bilderbergs in the public eye. Glib and repugnant looks of self satisfaction on their faces. I literally feel so much disgust at times that i have to turn away from my computer and do something to distract my distaste.

Their total disregard for the common person and their self elevated value system makes me want to puke repeatedly. They seem to be devoid of empathy for their fellow man. Almost as though they view themselves as divinity.

I'm starting to feel ill just thinking about it.

I heard they had a meeting quite recently. Euro dollar and European Union was on the agenda from what i understand. Other than that i don't know much else. I fear for what might be in store for the world if they are really convinced of stepping into Iran. UN and China have been on good terms in recent years. Iran would be a great way to stir up some sheet with China. If thats what they are after then they do want the worlds population to be below 500 mil as the guide stones dictate.

End of Rant. Sorry about that. Way off topic. :P

[Bodhi]

Sincerely Thanks

Kit has not arrived yet my friend should be here in 2 weeks, delays are not ours

Dear Ashtweth,

I must sincerely thanks to You for Your helpful notes about ORBO delays.
As I noted last, We are working with strict budget and exact deadlines.

Thanks to You, we save a costs and a little bit of money for future charity projects.

Steorn boys absolutely don't understand this. Every days a lot of CEOs, City Mayors and others must doing decisions. For example: It is understandably, that You will be don't building new coal powerplant, when ORBO revolution is around corner.

I have fear only about another neverending Steorn delays. They are Masters of Universe in repeated delays for years.

[Aromaz]

@All:
In the field of alternative energy there are two pillars of FRAUD standing
above all and everyone celse:
John Searl and Steorn (ORBO) Technologies.
Both time 'releases' and demonstrations very cleaverly; each time just
after or during end of some or other energy crisis. Now it is BP.
Soon you can expect the Searl crowd also to make new announcements.
All goes about research funding: Fundin that is the easiest to disappear with
no provable results.

STEORN has gone through more than 4.3 million Euro to date; but only 'active'
since 2000. In 2005 they claim xpenses of 1.8 Mil Euro. From 2006 to 2008
Steron raised another estimate 2.5 Mil Euro from investros.

Think ORBO is Master of Delays! Try Searl: First prototype was 'lost' - in 1946!
Since they have received unkown amounts of money and other contributions:

Surely interesting. Here you go:

Announcing TeslaTech's Annual 2010 ExtraOrdinary Technology Conference
John Searl - SEG Replication.... Past Present & Future
--- Conference Session 1 --- 5:00pm, Thursday July 29, 2010
Marriott Pyramid North
5151 San Francisco Rd. NE
Albuquerque, NM 87109
Pre Registration now open with the best discount available:

Predict the end of that speach will be about asking 'development funds' or
'funding to go the next step'.

[Slinky]

Thanks for the JLN orbo replication link Mr Whip, he's one busy dude.

[ashtweth]

Kit was sent to us yesterday guys good news. The panacea steorn video will have all YOUR OPEN SOURCE THEMES in it. Jib has been writing it for me LOL
Lets show the world that BP is no more.

I am in the mood to kick, big phrama , banks and oil's butt, and all our Panacea themes with the device will show this to the world. The cat is coming out of the bag.
That's why i was born. Hang on scratch that to find enough support and resources for an OPEN SOURCE unit, but first we must wake people up to the reality that free energy is possible. Steorn will help us do that.
no more doubting posts needed here thanks guys

Ashtweth

[Jules Tresor]

Hi Ash,
Great hope !
For the first low tech > 500W OU device available I will give 10,000 USD.
Of course it must be open source.

And I will spend 10,000 more to bring it to a third world country where it will be manufactured for local use (heater/cooker).

I wish I had 100 times more money, but we must do with the little we have ... that's the challenge !

[robbie47]

Don't you think you are a bit too optimistic?
These kits are supplied under NDA.

[Bodhi]

Chaotic style

Don't you think you are a bit too optimistic?
These kits are supplied under NDA.

This is always chaotic style/behavior, when Steorn is "in action".

This time no one "outsider" (out of SKDB full) know, whether this will be accompanied with general allowing of disclose of replication data or in Steorn tradition 2 rows: "power density 0.5 Watt/ccm and ".....towards the end of THIS year ...."

[ashtweth]

Guys the only one i see being months and months away is the solid state (it will change when more talent comes on board) The roto electromagnetic version is ready to extract energy with pick up coils, you saw this in the Steorn demos'

[robbie47]

Guys the only one i see being months and months away is the solid state (it will change when more talent comes on board) The roto electromagnetic version is ready to extract energy with pick up coils, you saw this in the Steorn demos'

Now you got me confused.
What kit is being send to you, the rotation unit or the solid state one?

[juju]

contradictions... like orbo...

LOL, Tj, i a more impatient then you We start our solid state this week, its very tricky to tune tho.

Guys the only one i see being months and months away is the solid state (it will change when more talent comes on board) The roto electromagnetic version is ready to extract energy with pick up coils, you saw this in the Steorn demos'

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dont take me wrong ash, is nothing against you, i admire your work very much!

[Bodhi]

Guys the only one i see being months and months away is the solid state (it will change when more talent comes on board) The roto electromagnetic version is ready to extract energy with pick up coils, you saw this in the Steorn demos'

Ash,

this is rumour in circulation, that replication test data publication is delayed again for circa 3 weeks.

It is at least one grain truth on this rumour ?