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  • Have you guys read this Steorn patent:

    espacenet — Original document

    Has been around for a while. If you analyze this patent then the "steorn effect" should be of no mystery. What they have "discovered" is the fact that a ferromagnetic material does not instantly react to a changing field but has a lag to it. In the solid state example this could have some big ramifications...

    Imagine a coil being pulsed with a very short burst of energy. In the "usual" slow case the ferro magnetic material would quickly react to this field and will prevent the coil from changing its field so fast, and thus a longer time period will be needed to increase the field to a desired level.

    However if knowledge was given to you that some ferromagnetic materials lag substantially to a changing field suddenly things change. Now the coil can burst and reach its peak current, and thus field, while the core is still sleeping so to speak. When it finally senses the change it starts to align its domain, at this stage the coil is already off, meaning the core has no more effect on the primary energizing coil. When the core has finished aligning all its domain a secondary coil can suck out all of this energy through a classic inductive discharge. So the big secret is the short burst of energy that bypasses the usual LONG charge time of a coil with a ferromagnetic core.

    Experimental wise this means that one has to look for the right core that delays a strong pulse substantially by measuring instantaneous field either by a hall probe or by a a winding to two hooked to an oscilloscope. Because flux change is proportional to voltage.
    Last edited by broli; 06-23-2010, 03:10 PM.

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    • NOPE

      Wrong. leave to people who can find out

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      • If I understand what you said then it might be better to have the pulsed (drive) coils in parallel instead of serial so that the effect happens as the magnets pass each (drive) coil at the same time......

        Interesting... I have been building mine with serially connected coils....

        Does anyone know what it takes to create a coil with 300 mh?

        I have a 3" OD toroid with 4 comlete layers of 20 awg wire (a lot of wire) and it is only 2 mh.....

        Can I add resistors to the resistance of the coil and increase the mh value?

        Hopes and Dreams....

        Tj

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        • Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
          NOPE

          Wrong. leave to people who can find out
          Thanks for completely blasting that out of the air.

          I'll step aside and let the professional speculators do their job.

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          • Originally posted by broli View Post
            Thanks for completely blasting that out of the air.
            I'll step aside and let the professional speculators do their job.
            I know mean well, but i must say YOU and many others should stop speculating and find out for your self I have already stated no more of these posts are needed here I'd rather spend my time winding coils, reporting on our Steorn rep and helping the gulf spill.ill start moderating this soon. If you or ANY one have doubts, GUESS and cant find out for yourself then please leave this thread alone, its not for you. This thread is for reports and its a Panacea thread. If i or any one here really needed to know any opinions based on no investigations i would not of named the thread what it is.

            Why not start your own doubt steorn thread based on your OWN evidence .Admin, myself or any one with a scientific interest is NOT interested in noise pollution like the rest of academia behaved.
            Your own thread is for you naysayers not us, OR find a hobby, same goes for ANY naysayer trolling this thread, , its not for you, go do the work and report, or seriously ...
            After the gulf oil spill i have ZERO tolerance for time wasters. Wont be making this point again Admin will

            Thanks
            Ashtweth
            Last edited by ashtweth; 06-23-2010, 04:11 PM.

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            • Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
              YOU should stop speculating and find out for your self, ,if not please stop making me post to address you, I'd rather spend my time winding coils and helping the gulf spill.
              ill start moderating this soon.If you have doubts and cant find out your self leave this thread alone, its not for you. This thread is for reports and its a Panacea thread.
              find a hobby, same goes for ANY naysayer trolling this thread, , its not for you, go do the work and report, or ...

              After the gulf spill i have ZERO tolerance for time wasters.

              Thanks
              Ashtweth
              If by "find out yourself" you mean performing the experiment, then yes I'm already on it. However maybe you meant "cough up 419€ and pay the license fee" then I have to say that I still haven't lost my mind.

              It's funny you call me a time waster and a naysayer in this situation. It's probably meaningless to you but there was a time I had a lot of respect and love for you.

              But I will respect your wish and no longer post in this thread, sorry for the inconvenience.

              Edit: To avoid a chain reaction, please ignore the previous posts people and let the thread talk continue with no regard to them, thanks.
              Last edited by broli; 06-23-2010, 03:50 PM.

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              • Guessing the principle is not objective. I know you may mean well, but If you can help the situation help, if not, then whats the point of posting... seriously dood. Think things through and contribute if you can. Please re read the edited post above. All naysayers and those "guessing engineers"/naysayers should. Lets put things in perspective , it would help to investigate Steorn not nay say it or guess

                Ash
                Last edited by ashtweth; 06-23-2010, 04:13 PM.

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                • A good company.

                  My instincts are that Steorn is a well meaning company.
                  They don't have to produce free educational video documentation like the Steorn Physics Primer videos (a great physics brush up) and put out their SKDB Lite video on their official Youtube channel. They have opened their SKDB Lite to the public.

                  While waiting for more information, i recommend these resources. Great stuff Steorn.
                  EnergeticTube.com - Where technology goes Live!
                  ETaffairs.com - Your Portal Here on Earth

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                  • Could someone help me with my post #123?

                    I am building a Orbo rep and have a question about increasing coil inductance.....

                    How do I wind a 2.5 inch OD toroid core to get between 200mh and 300mh?

                    I wound a 3" OD toroid with 4 complete layers of 20 awg magnet wire and I only get 2mh.... wow.... how many winds does it take or do I need to use a different gauge to get the mh up..... do I go to 18 awg or 22 awg?

                    Hopes and Dreams.....

                    Tj

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                    • Hi Dood /All

                      Good news is Andrew our Trustee has informed me that the kit has been sent to us and should now be in his possession in a few days .

                      This will comprise the Rotor version and Solid state which we built (waiting for a coil for the SS).We did well to get the first ones off the production line it has not been that easy and there were a few delays , but the vendor has done well to get that many kits out by himself and i thank him for it. We wont muck around when its here and will have a report ASAP.

                      We have also written a Steorn production which will be supporting the open source FREE energy community with all our themes and research to "let the cat out of the bag" etc..And address the educational problem we have preventing Free energy (academia, suppression etc). We will be presenting all self sufficient education that we have researched/ involved in and intend to found a NON PROFIT institute to harbor this self sufficient education.

                      Banking reform, Sustainable hemp production to bio dynamic and organic , not just FREE energy. We get the world stage , we must fill lit with as much objective content as we can guys. The energetic forum writes brilliant threads and have genuine intentions, none of that can die in threads we must tell the world and ensure its security.

                      If Steorn proves fruitful its the only power to weight ratio commercial free energy device out there which can produce a self contained decentralized power grid.(Due to size and price).

                      Currently commercial ones:

                      Black light power -50MW
                      Hidro -(YouTube - Free Energy - HIDRO- The Renewable Energy) -1MW
                      Energy by motion -1MW

                      If you have millions of dollars you can get some "free" energy there, so far no one has been able to match the public accessibility of Steorn's capacity, their method to let the public develop it is currently the reason why more people know about it. We will be including all these themes to help the mainstream academia, and others free energy inventors in our Steorn production. Thanks to all for staying on topic.


                      Ash

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                      • Looks like i spoke to soon
                        Yfrog Image : yfrog.com/eu0001388fj
                        Andrew informs me our baby has emerged...lets see how we can nurture our new child .

                        Results coming

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                        • Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                          Looks like i spoke to soon
                          Yfrog Image : yfrog.com/eu0001388fj
                          Andrew informs me our baby has emerged...lets see how we can nurture our new child .

                          Results coming
                          Dear Ash,
                          this is e-ORBO, oficially abandoned by Steorn a far back.

                          They sell You this abandoned device?

                          They are trying to sell Magnetic Measurement Device for PM ORBO generation too, which was tabuized/abandoned few years back.

                          This is very bizarre.

                          Angela Merkel is trying to ban Short Sell before ssORBO test data publication.
                          Wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and (secretly) in Pakistan are not sufficient.
                          Warmongers are in heavy preparation to start another war in Iran.

                          Reports: IAF Landed at Saudi Base, US Troops near Iran Border - Defense/Middle East - Israel News - Israel National News

                          Will sooner ssORBO or 4th war - in Iran which will results to radioactive dust from Iran utilities to spread to India ?

                          If ssORBO is first, even Iranian leaders will see, that nuclear powerplants are history and stop this.

                          Or this is game? New war first and ssORBO purposely delayed?
                          Last edited by Bodhi; 06-24-2010, 06:49 AM.

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                          • Please read careful. We have BOTH the electromagnetic and solid state Orbo kits. As we are a non profit educational organization.Steron are focusing on the SS ATM. This does not mean their probational rotational one is useless, why would you post that, its just they want development to evolve to better devices, that's all. I wont be answering any more Q's till reports I suggest you forget Iran and any thing else and focus on bone fide testing like we are. Thanks

                            Ash

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                            • ...Edited double post sorry guys wrong forum :P
                              Last edited by ashtweth; 06-24-2010, 08:48 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                                Looks like i spoke to soon
                                Yfrog Image : yfrog.com/eu0001388fj
                                Andrew informs me our baby has emerged...lets see how we can nurture our new child .

                                Results coming
                                VERY NICE INDEED ASH. Can't wait to see the results.

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