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Originally posted by ashtweth View PostPlease read careful. We have BOTH the electromagnetic and solid state Orbo kits. As we are a non profit educational organization.Steron are focusing on the SS ATM. This does not mean their probational rotational one is useless, why would you post that, its just they want development to evolve to better devices, that's all. I wont be answering any more Q's till reports I suggest you forget Iran and any thing else and focus on bone fide testing like we are. Thanks
Ash
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Hi Mark. With the E-orbo I am inclined to agree HOWEVER.
Tests are still going on with the E-orbo (THE solid state is what we are focused on now) as reported in the thread already. This is the trap that people who assume fall into. To assume with out knowing what the situation really is or whats involved in the case of the E-orbo simply means you do not know what the truth is
Think i can clear this up for ALL - Once and for all too and give every one the good news.
There are very loyal and talented developers on the Steorn forum, the troops still need the free energy communities help tho to get the development CRANKING. PREVIOUSLY (the solid state info now changes all this)
we would of ALL had as much delays as a result of having to guess with what we thought was right.
Now with the Solid state, Steorn have done it, they are coming up with all the information SPECIFIC to copy exactly a 300% gain in the toroid.
The task is now to replicate the OU claim (or buy a board and do so if needed) and then move forward. The principle needs help and development, if you want real time applications, you have to get there and help them to make it and get a better config.
Now there is no scenario in what the internet people did, there is no planting the idea and then expecting engineers to go off and invent off this idea.
Many FE inventors through history have reported OU. Their REPLICATION Info was never given. Hence is the reason WHY you have what you can see today the open source community, freedom fighters, ALTRUIST ..people that inspired us to support and start our non profit org.They made us, not the other way around.
These individuals spend their own time and money on no budget for years working on VAGUE "clues" in the hopes of getting a working model. If we were only ever able to speak to those people who had the original claim.
NOW
With our Irish troops, we have another claim, HOWEVER the difference this time is that they are in fact in communication with the public. They now provide the plug and play SOLID STATE model, our board is able to be upgraded.
The E-orbo tests are believe it or not still going by us. However the E-orbo version is no longer endorsed or sort after by Steorn or the developers. The solid state version is what we are focusing on now for a very important reason.
The solid state is instantly able to be developed and is plug and play.With out you being on the licensed forum and knowing whats involved in the E-orbo, its impossible to make an accurate assumption of what Steorn's orbo technology can do or is, or whats involved in the E-orbo.. .
One example is that Lowrance JOKE, who thinks he has an Orbo doing what Steorn's did in water ways, he doesn't he has nothing , he knows nothing. but thinks he does. He is a JOKE. He even accused us PANACEA a non profit org of delaying it intentionally, what a dumb ass, i dont swear at people much, but this guy offended me and is really a JOKE.
Yet people assume many things, we never did and went to the forum to find out with the REAL INFO. No one on the SKBD can tell you whats involved in the E-orbo and who has it working. Its under NDA. There is a reason why you have to balance it and get the formula right .
There is also a reason why they have the SS We tried to get it finished before the solid state to help ALL. We are still working on it, but now we are focusing MOST of our time on finishing the solid state board. Its in pieces ATM and we have more parts on the way now, there are live demos of the SS and people can evaluate the boards with out having to do what we did with the E-orbo, this was posted before.
Our first validation report and public tests will be the solid state and not the E-orbo, the E-orbo version is really is only good for "flea power" and evaluating certain scientific Orbo principles. The kit we got was based on water ways demo.
Its not designed to be a generator to run a home power load. The solid state boards can be taken to that level. I think that's what people want to see, the Orbo principle taken from development (scope shots) into a real application, the E-0orbo would not have been the best for this.
But unless you goto the SKBD you cant find this out. So now its the SS and i think we did not really loose any time, in the end the finished product would not have been the E-orbo it would of been the solid state which we just about have all the parts for now. So any difficulties did not slow us down -And in the end and we are committed to getting the answers every one is looking for.
If you dont understand this ...and/or are impatient, your going to find that your falling into the trap that others have, if you want to evaluate the principles, you can try to qualify and get a board that's plug in and play -An INSTANT validation.
We will have the solid state built (we didn't get the public board version we want a bigger version) and report for all, this time it wont be the waterways demo, it will be useful work being done, some thing that's far more productive for the public to evaluate then just the E-orbo making LED's light up. The non profit org wants to make it self evident, not use a meter.
I hope this clears up some things, things happen for a reason, no one is working harder then us to get the report done. If you were on the SKDB you can see this .Hope to have news soon on the solid state and will report progress.
I have done my best to explain the delays with out getting into trouble. Thanks to the SKBD members for being understanding, we are all needed to help Steorn/Them.Trust me when i say it works for now, ill show this ASAP.
Much support
AshLast edited by ashtweth; 11-15-2010, 10:04 AM.
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Ha man where they hell have you been brother...!! Bod, i have an Orgone meter now to do some tests will start a new thread and be able to test a lot of things for you and all. This is one fancy Orgone meter..good to see you back brother..
Ash
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Hi Mark/ALL
Just note if your going to purchase the SS that its an EVALUATION BOARD as is and you will have to change it in order to get some major juice, its only small with 9VDC in and around 300% gain. (check the brochure i posted)You will need a 4 channel scope and at least a 200Mhz to see it on a scope.
But you get access to a license for a year cheaper then before! You get to go in and be with the troops on the official forum, i am told they are moving VERY quickly now to get it away from evaluation boards and into application phaze.
They are a warm bunch of guys let me tell you, i am told they bend over backwards for each other over there. Kind of like us here
If you have the technical capacity to UPGRADE the board (i am told it does not take much and all the info is there once you get in) Then its worth getting the board. Dont forget its in DEVELOPMENT PHAZE, we thought we might have been able to make you guys a genset from the E-orbo and report, but even that is in development phaze. The SS is ready to put in a generator and is far advanced , works off the mark, but keep in mind that yio have to upgrade it and this is some thing you need to plan for with the time etc.
I would consider getting it now as the license fee is cheaper now, 399 EU its almost like you get a FREE board, as we had to pay much more to get a license, now you get a cheaper year license AND a free board.
But the trooops have been there for years and now Steorn are ready to make this puppy bark. Will have photo and updates of our SS guys, soldering this weekend (some parts still coming).
Ash
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great news Ash!
Since you posted the brochure i've been pining for that board. I have been studying the SKDB and doing some of the primers there. Great stuff.
When i read the brochure i was kicking myself as i just finished buying a 400mhz 2 channel Phillips Fluke scope. :P Was second hand anyway but a good one. Would like one a bit newer anyway. Can't have enough instrumentation laying around the lab!
Thanks for your updates Ash. I really appreciate you going the distance with Steorn for the benefit of the members here. Happy soldering my friend!
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Ash,
You promised an E-Orbo video??? You said it was done?
What happened to it?
I will not give up on the E-Orbo maybe in combination with the developmet board.....
SS is great but to create machines we will need both.....
Please advise when will the E-Orbo video be released?
Hopes and Dreams....
Tj
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Originally posted by thedude View PostSince you posted the brochure i've been pining for that board. I have been studying the SKDB and doing some of the primers there. Great stuff.
When i read the brochure i was kicking myself as i just finished buying a 400mhz 2 channel Phillips Fluke scope. :P Was second hand anyway but a good one. Would like one a bit newer anyway. Can't have enough instrumentation laying around the lab!
Thanks for your updates Ash. I really appreciate you going the distance with Steorn for the benefit of the members here. Happy soldering my friend!
Man you have always got down to business with the tech and Steorn its gonna be a good day for me personally to show you the SS load working brother.
Thanks man. I got some hard core anxiety to get this done, we have decided since its so important, to work on it over Christmas, yes that's right, Panacea will not be doing the family thing , we will be working on the solid state to hopefully give you guys the good news ASAP.
Would you expect any thing less of us?
Thanks for hanging in there guys i sincerley appreciate it
Love and respect ALWAYS
AshLast edited by ashtweth; 11-16-2010, 02:40 AM.
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Originally posted by tjnlsn255 View PostAsh,
You promised an E-Orbo video??? You said it was done?
What happened to it?
I will not give up on the E-Orbo maybe in combination with the developmet board.....
SS is great but to create machines we will need both.....
Please advise when will the E-Orbo video be released?
Hopes and Dreams....
Tj
Instant, no experimentation no coils, nothing. Bam plug it in, check out the scope shots no MIB's , or magic hamsters included
Ours will be bigger, we got a HUGE Bob Boyce core to wind this MOFO. More soon my friend, promise you will like the next post, count on it. Thanks for hanging in there TJ. wont let you down my friend, count on it.
Ash
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Hi Ash,
Have you heard of anyone actually getting any useful work out of this device yet?
A good search of the web reveals pretty much zip on the OEDU... its like it doesn't even exist? Youtube is also very sparse - I cant find one video of the device even in operation besides official malarky...
Please update us...
Thanks,
Ozy
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Hi Ozy, /ALL
Yes that is most likely because the applications to receive the EVALUATION boards have only just gone out in the last month or so.. The process involves Steorn approving which applicants qualify (you need a good scope), they did have a public display the other day.
Note the boards are not intended for an application YET... So if you got a board, you would then need to DEVELOP IT into an application. Steorn produce scope shots (for a reason as they dont make products) . We are working on a different board with more grunt which is upgradable in order to run a Specific bigger application. But if you have a good scope my friend go for it, i dont see why you could not begin to upgrade it.
It will take we the people to evaluate the board and show the world if we want any real time momentum .
We are up there at the forefront its all going to hatch next year, i cant see any more delays occurring and preventing the new SS being into an application next year, this i can assure you from our side.
Ill keep every one posted on our board progress in real time my friends, No one is more eager then me to give you guys the good news trust me guys, we are working over December (no Christmas hols here) to get this done for ALL.
I would be surprised if some one beats us to report publicly . The only guy my money is on to beat us is Clanzer that dood is a machine If any hard worker deserved to give the open source community the good news, it would be SEAN. They are a good team over there, All credits to the troops on the SKBD. They are doing a good job , a job no one else is doing
AshLast edited by ashtweth; 11-23-2010, 01:29 AM.
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Originally posted by ashtweth View PostI got some hard core anxiety to get this done, we have decided since its so important, to work on it over Christmas, yes that's right, Panacea will not be doing the family thing , we will be working on the solid state to hopefully give you guys the good news ASAP.
Would you expect any thing less of us?
Thanks for hanging in there guys i sincerley appreciate it
Love and respect ALWAYS
Ash
I am writing this knowing fully well the amount of time and effort there is involved in winding just 4 toroid coils with 240 windings. My fingers are cramped and it has taken me much longer than initially anticipated. I know that you've had to do this a couple times (due to bad insulation on ferrite) already and with more coils than i am playing with. Seems like i'm even doing this in my sleep while dreaming last night. :P
I decided that i would do some conceptual application of some of the principles that i've been learning with regard to the Steorn model, in order to do some preliminary work with toroids and creating cancellation fields. ( have been able to observe the principle in action ) I'm using magnetic bearings for my wheel and have been using your illustrations here to my benefit. I know that I'm likely going to be fumbling some of the very fine specifications undoubtedly. However, I always enjoy fabricating and I get excited by exploring new ideas. Can't help myself but to jump ahead without proper license. I won't publish anything specific about my experimental design here in this thread in order to avoid confusing the proper design of the real device.
Just wanted to say that I was thinking of you while winding and trying to stretch the ache out of my fingers.
Hope that all is going good for you and your work. Remember to always take time to pause and enjoy yourself along the way. Seems to work out better that way.
Love to you and yours!
TheDude
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