Steorn is open -Panacea has a license

[brenie]

Thanks Ash and team for all the work you put in, and all the info you provde.
Regards, Bren.

[ashtweth]

Hi All

Appreciate the positive thoughts and encouragement, its not looking good however for the Orbo, there is not much of us left trying to replicate the claims, a few dedicated members are there with their own version of the SS board but its still going through the developer stages guys, hence why there is no new news sadly, we have the board and coil info now, still are not clear how to hook it up, we hope to have this info by April. Will keep trying.

I hope Steorn work on making versions for developers that are easier to reproduce their claims, we will encourage them as much as we can.We wont rest till this thing is taken to the end and have a report for all.

Mean time, till we get the missing info, we are going to work on the alternative cancer course, Urban farming, Raw food nutrition and more of the open source projects, Will have news as soon as we can guys.

Ash

[altrez]

Hi All

Appreciate the positive thoughts and encouragement, its not looking good however for the Orbo, there is not much of us left trying to replicate the claims, a few dedicated members are there with their own version of the SS board but its still going through the developer stages guys, hence why there is no new news sadly, we have the board and coil info now, still are not clear how to hook it up, we hope to have this info by April. Will keep trying.

I hope Steorn work on making versions for developers that are easier to reproduce their claims, we will encourage them as much as we can.We wont rest till this thing is taken to the end and have a report for all.

Mean time, till we get the missing info, we are going to work on the alternative cancer course, Urban farming, Raw food nutrition and more of the open source projects, Will have news as soon as we can guys.

Ash

Thank you so much for the update!



-Altrez

[toranarod]

Thank you so much for the update!



-Altrez

Over unity Is like the existence of god. No one has ever seen him but many believe in him. We need to change that
Cheers Rod

[ashtweth]

Guys i was not sure if i was going to get in poo for reporting before steorn, but you may have heard that Steorn are working on a 15 kW heating element.

They have version 3 of their principle now

1) PM orbo
2) E-orbo
3) Solid state A ->electrical/heat -Solid state B ->heater

Now we can finally fire up our board for the heater after our new coil is done, man that was a mission, the guys on the forum have worked their butt off to get that, its solid state A designed by teh forum people, not steorn hence why its taken us a while to learn it, we are all still learning from what info is there so please bare with the SKBD guys.

We have not got to solid state B yet, it only came out a few weeks ago, the 15KW heater is based on the new solid state B, i hear its intended to be 5Kw in, but not built yet, its being developed, so still we are struggling to get some juice for now but will have some news in the next month my friends.

Any how its good to see Steorn trying to do what the developers have been struggling to do for a while now, build a load on this thing, no more meters

Ash

[Bobbotov]

I am a little confused. Four days ago you stated that it didn't look good for Orbo and now it does look good. Which is it?

Also, you state that the SS-Orbo-A is being designed by the SKDB. Why? Steorn is the originator of this technology so why are others doing their work for free? Is any of this related to the OEDU boards that were supposedly to be shipped out months ago or is this all something else? If it is something else what purpose does the OEDU board have at this point and have any been shipped out at all?

Is Steorn going to develop the SS-Orbo -B themselves or will that also be an SKDB project? Will this eventually be a product that can be sold or is it just going to be another prototype?

Sorry for all the questions but this is getting muddier to me.

[ashtweth]

There is not one point in my post that i say "its looking good". I do however give Steorn some credit for finally getting a heater contract as this is going past the meters and what we all need to see.We will investigate and report what we can find.

Steorn's technology is for developers, i suggest you read their website for further information. They give you a principle you must build a device. You can read more information on their website. I am not authorized to disclose who is developing the heater, whats important is if we can replicate it and independently measure it . This is why we are on their forum .

Ash

[Bobbotov]

Bobbotov

There is not one point in my post that i say "its looking good".

So, it's not looking good????

I do however give Steorn some credit for finally getting a heater contract as this is going past the meters and what we all need to see.We will investigate and report what we can find.

So when you say Steorn is getting a heater contract does that mean it is being developed by some other commercial group? The reason I ask is because in your previous post you said, "...but you may have heard that Steorn are working on a 15 kW heating element."

As for your other questions, Yes you are confused, Steorn's technology is for developers,...

Well, the confusion comes from what I just posted where you said Steorn was working on a heater which lead me to believe it was of their own creation.

...i suggest you read their website for further information. They give you a principle you must build a device. You can read more information on their website. I am not authorized to tell you who is developing the heater, its not important, whats important is if we can replicate it and independently measure it . This is why we are on their forum.

Ash

I have read their website and they offer licenses for commercial development as well as developers. If some other group is developing a product under commercial licensing with Steorn it would be the first I have heard about that aspect and I think it would be considered important. Maybe it is wishful thinking that this might be the first product to hit the market after all of this time.

Sorry to bug you but I think clarity is the essence of understanding. Just as you struggle to understand the inner workings of the Orbo I am sure you ask many questions for clarification. And the devil, as you know, is in the details and there are not too many places outside of the SKDB to ask questions.

[ashtweth]

So, it's not looking good????




So when you say Steorn is getting a heater contract does that mean it is being developed by some other commercial group? The reason I ask is because in your previous post you said, "...but you may have heard that Steorn are working on a 15 kW heating element."



Well, the confusion comes from what I just posted where you said Steorn was working on a heater which lead me to believe it was of their own creation.



I have read their website and they offer licenses for commercial development as well as developers. If some other group is developing a product under commercial licensing with Steorn it would be the first I have heard about that aspect and I think it would be considered important. Maybe it is wishful thinking that this might be the first product to hit the market after all of this time.

Sorry to bug you but I think clarity is the essence of understanding. Just as you struggle to understand the inner workings of the Orbo I am sure you ask many questions for clarification. And the devil, as you know, is in the details and there are not too many places outside of the SKDB to ask questions.

Hi Bobbotov

Sadly we can only report what we can, so its impossible for me to say its looking good until we have our heater working , whether Steorn are building it for a developer or not, i must say i cant disclose that information even if i knew I dont make the rules sadly.

My hunch is Steorn are actually working with a company to help them develop the heater, .Steorn may be helping the developers in this case for a change Which is about time IMO. Whats important is developers replicating the effect and building cheap devices for people. We have been there for months working on this element. And will continue with our heater board for all.

Ash

[Bobbotov]

Okay, thanks.

[ashtweth]

No Prob. Yes i know its confusing my friend, Steorn do it to us all the time on their forum LOL. This time i think it will be the first product, as they seem to be in there overseeing that it gets replicated. Working with the people who contracted teh heaters, After all of our failed attempts i think this had to happen. Will post any more i can .

Ash

[ashtweth]

Hi ALL, onto the first stages of board testing, not allowed to say too much more and cant answer Q's about the board..Hope we have some good news soon.

Ash

[p75213]

Steorn may be getting there finger out because of Rossi/Foccardi competition.

[ashtweth]

Hi All.

Steorn have always amazed us, i could write a book about the inadequacy there

[wayne.ct]

A question

Hi Ash/All,

The Orbo infomercials look really great and I can't help thinking they are on to something. I just finished reading all 389 posts on this thread and I hope you will clear up a point of confusion for me. At one point, Ash, you said that things were looking good and we could go ahead with confidence. I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, but I took that to mean you were convinced their technology is for real and we could safely license the product. I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but I kept reading. And now I have made my way through the entire thread.

It seems that in the time that has past since that post Steorn has changed their design or product or whatever and the solid-state SS unit is now what you are building? If you would kindly recap which version or versions you thought were encouraging and make a current recommendation to go or hold back, I think it would clear this up in my mind and perhaps help others that are following this thread.

Personally, I think I'm going to have to wait for more positive results, but I am optimistic and think we will end up with some good news. I appreciate your hard work on this technology, Ash. You are doing all of us a great service.

Thanks,
Wayne