gravity waves found

[Harvey]

Hi All,

I've done the Icing without the PMH and I did a 5 hour spin to test the weather as requested - I still need to process those videos. I have also done a sequence on the melting of the previous PMH ice I hope to process, but that is a very long sequence of almost 30 minutes of bits and pieces of interrupted video and stills.

This video is the requested Tri-Pod rundown using my cell phone resolution. I will need to do another AVCHD version when I can get the time and drive space to handle those large files and borrow my son's camera again. But for now, perhaps this will do:
YouTube - Lambright - 021

[rave154]

Harvey,

youre last video...in the bottom left, theres a square, brass coloured "thing"... looks like a m ounting of some kind....anyways...it was jiggling all over the place to my eyes...seemed to be somewhat in time with the revolutions..... cant determine wether it was a video codec'ing thingy....or genuinely "glimmering"...certainly looked wavery..... was it loose physically at all?

[Harvey]

Harvey,

youre last video...in the bottom left, theres a square, brass coloured "thing"... looks like a m ounting of some kind....anyways...it was jiggling all over the place to my eyes...seemed to be somewhat in time with the revolutions..... cant determine wether it was a video codec'ing thingy....or genuinely "glimmering"...certainly looked wavery..... was it loose physically at all?

The light source for this video was at a radius about 28 inches from the center of the DUT (device under test) in the horizontal plane (x) and about 27 inches in the vertical plane (y) and about 10 inches in the depth plane (z) roughly 40 inches as a crow flys . The camera was about the same height as the light source.

The acrylic base is secured to 4 LRF's (Little Rubber Feet - as alsetalokin called them) that have a yellowish tint from the warm light provided by the incandescent lamp.

Evidently, there is some shadowing by the various PMH element elevations of that particular LRF in the lower left corner. So we are getting an effect similar to that of moving shadows on the wall projected by the changing TV image illuminating stationary objects in the room. But in this case the objects are moving and the light source is stationary.

Personally, I see more action along the left margin in that light colored cloth there. That area does not have any shadows from the PMH - but it could have reflections. Whatever it is that causes the compression algorithms to flip the pixels like that must be a subtle thing. We may be trying to dismiss this as noise, but before we do, we may want to ask ourselves - why does the noise take on this wavy pattern? Could it be that the compression algorithms are just more sensitive to some underlying pattern that is concealed in the higher definition data and by the average persons POV. If so, then it would take a trained eye - or a specific algorithm to expose the patterns. As long as this is a possibility it cannot be discounted. Therefore it will take some type of proof either way to remove it as a possibility and place it into the realm of not possible or factual. I am open to suggestions on a method or falsifying test to help solidify this possibility one way or the other.

[david lambright]

hi everyone...

sunday, a friend came by, we talked about the icing and he had a suggestion...time lapse....i think it is a great idea but i do not have the right equipment to do it....something like 1 frame every 60 seconds?...i dont know but i bet you guys do!...david

[Harvey]

sunday, a friend came by, we talked about the icing and he had a suggestion...time lapse....i think it is a great idea but i do not have the right equipment to do it....something like 1 frame every 60 seconds?...i dont know but i bet you guys do!...david

LOL - yeah I wanted to do a time lapse melt yesterday, but the only way the HFM31 will do it is in post processing (via software) and it would take the entire internal disc (32GB?) to save two hours of HD recording. So the same would be necessary in reverse.

Canon sells an Intervalometer that is specially designed to work with the SLR series cameras and then stitch the stills together into a fluid video - but I couldn't find anything for the HFM31. So it becomes a manual process of clicking the video snapshot at the desired intervals or filming the whole process and then using software to change the time base.

Also, a special freezer with a non-fog window would need to be used for the filming because you don't want your camera in the freezer.

The good news here, is that I did take some shots in the middle of the freeze that helps show what is happening - I just have to get it all processed.

[david lambright]

harvey...

i should have known that you were already thinking of that!...great work, by the way!...question;...do your videos look different after they are processed?...with my vids, there is a lot of difference after processing...on youtube, if you go to "add captions and subtitles", it seems that they use the raw image...in "mikes house #3", the effects are much more visible with the raw image information...david....and harvey, great work!

[thekubiaks]

sunday, a friend came by, we talked about the icing and he had a suggestion...time lapse....i think it is a great idea but i do not have the right equipment to do it....something like 1 frame every 60 seconds?...i dont know but i bet you guys do!...david

GoPro HD has this capability.

[sucahyo]

This video is the requested Tri-Pod rundown using my cell phone resolution. I will need to do another AVCHD version when I can get the time and drive space to handle those large files and borrow my son's camera again. But for now, perhaps this will do:
YouTube - Lambright - 021

I saw wave like motion. However after a retouch the video, I am not sure if it is the effect of youtube converter, something not exist in real video, or it is because of the way camera compression work, or real deal.

YouTube - Diff of Harvey Lambright -021

[Harvey]

No PMH Freeze

The next activity in the sequence was an attempt at gathering the different stages of the PMH Ice meltdown. There simply is too much to work on it right now, so I am taking the things out of sequence here.

If anyone would like a zip file with the videos and stills of the PMH Ice meltdown let me know.

This sequence here is the NO PMH freeze:
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For a lousy mid process video at the freezing which shows the bubble trails elongating from the outside in:YouTube - Lambright - 022 See pictures three and four above for the snap shots at this moment.

For the rest of the video after freezing: YouTube - Lambright - 022

I have more to do, but I am burned out for the night - tomorrow is another day (or actually today is another day) *Bangs Head On Keyboard*

=)

[woopy]

Hi all

This thing is not evident at all.

So i decided to make some icing test without the pmh.

One particular result is the following

First i froze a pmh in double u-shape in a container in the freezer no1 the pix 1 shows the icing.

Than i refill the same container with about the same quantity of water (no pmh inside) and froze it in the freezer no2 (the freezer where i did all my previous "head pmh" test) and pix 2 shows the result. The icing is very different but is very similar to the "head pmh" icing with a bulb at the top of pix.

Than i refill the same container with new water and no pmh and refroze it in the freezer no 1 and the result is very similar to the first icing with the double u-shape pmh

Very weird it seems that or the freezer freeze differently or there is as a memory effect , Sucahyo said that the energy can stay few days in the freezer,

what do you think

good luck at all

Laurent

[Harvey]

Yesterday I did a final freeze test.

I boiled the water from the previous freezes, recharged the PMH and put the water in the freezer at about 200°F. I left this fully undisturbed overnight and recorded it this morning.

There are no nice straight long striated bubble trails as before - but instead there is some sort of halo of microfine bubbles surrounding the center piece 'bump' which is quite cloudy.

The formation of these various bubbles is reminiscent of wispy cirrus clouds, flames and a pattern which I recognize in the scar tissue of burn victims and even certain nebulae. While we cannot be certain at this time as to what foundation force(s) is(are) at work when these things are formed, I am certain it is not simply 'air currents'. It must have something to do with the electromagnetic interactions of free macro particles and the distributive path they take during divergence during those interactions.

Hopefully today or tomorrow I can find more time to get the recordings processed in available from the last three tests.

As a point of note: The best (many straight lines) bubble trails occurred in the test immediately following my removal of the first bump ice from the melt and the addition of new water. It would be interesting to repeat that process 3 or 4 times and see what the result is. It is possible, that we are dealing with more than one type of gas here and the preferred gas stays in the bubble trails while the others gets pushed into the center. Therefore, by removing the center each time, we refine the melt and we get a purer material.

Another test that could be performed with David's PMH rig would be a slow synchronous rotation during the freeze process. In that case, the Pyrex could be supported stationary above the PMH and a synchronous motor rigged to complete one revolution in a single freeze cycle. If the PMH is affecting the bubble trail formations, then this technique 'may' show that by curving the trails. I say 'may' for two reasons. First, the forces at play may actually be a force whose magnitude is tangential to the radials of the PMH and the rotation may not change that magnitude because it would be the same for any point along a circumference for any given radius. Secondly, by introducing a motor, we also introduce some vibration and we may not be able to separate the causal effects of the vibration from that of the PMH. I could also add a third reason as the motor may be magnetic and its field could interfere if not properly distanced. Perhaps a wind up clock would be the best motor

[david lambright]

hi jet

did the mail come yet!....just curious...david

[Jetijs]

David, the package is in the postal office, I will get it tomorrow and show to everyone. Very exciting

[david lambright]

good news!

David, the package is in the postal office, I will get it tomorrow and show to everyone. Very exciting

yes, exciting for me as well....i have been nervous about the Extreme Makeover stuff....tonite i showed a couple [friends of friends] the oxide core device, similar to yours, they too saw it...she said at first it looked "hazy" inside the ring, then she was able to see the 'lens type effect.....just some info.....anyway jet, thank you for your interest in all of this.....i know you have spent considerable time on replicating these devices, so thanks.....david

[Harvey]

Sorry Jetijs, (or was it someone else that asked me to do this - I can't find the post now )

I said I was going to check the convective outlook before doing the test and I didn't - so the test was a bust - I'll have to do another when the Forecast is "Clear Skies"

I honestly had no idea that this cloud bank was moving in - it had been hot and clear for days

At any rate - here is a quick video - check the video information for the forecast data: YouTube - Lambright - 024

Do you think the fan changes anything? I was thinking a motor might interfere with the Magnetic fields so . . . I used the fan.

I still have more stuff to process when I get the time things have been busy this week already.

Have I over looked any requested tests?

Cheers,