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  • Thanx Van for the clarification

    David,

    That Brownie model is one of the best camera's I ever owned. I found this site for film suppliers: Film

    I loved the double exposure feature and even did an hour moon rise with about 20 shots on the same frame. Wish I could find all my negatives, I've moved nine times since then and would be amazed if they're still around. I must have processed about 50 rolls of film back in the day because the processing fees always included a new roll

    The 'dark room' needs to be light proof. Remember, if you open the door to a dark room, you let all the dark out

    I am hopeful this gives us something good, and Matt too if he can film anything he sees

    Cheers!

    ETA:Kodak Portra-160VC 620 Professional Color Print Film (ISO-160)
    Film for Classics Order Form
    Last edited by Harvey; 11-16-2010, 08:25 PM.
    "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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    • Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
      Hi David
      As far as I know there is no one in line after me, I will send the device to anyone you decide is worthy after my tests are done. I am also not intending to keep it for long
      Also, great idea about the long exposure cameras. I have only some digital cameras which have up to 15 seconds of shutter speed and that is not enough.
      Thanks,
      Jetijs
      Jetijs,

      Can you setup your digital to directly save to a hard disk? If so, you may be able to do something similar by importing the shots into a program like photoshop that allows layering. You will need to set "Black" to transparent and then any colors on any layers would pop through. You could then assemble multiple layers into a single image this way by including the composite from previous layers into a new image with new layers (supposing that you had more snapshots than your program has layers). It requires a timed interval for each snapshot and a way to save it automatically to a large storage system.

      Just a thought
      "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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      • blurr

        Originally posted by Harvey View Post
        Thanx Van for the clarification

        David,

        That Brownie model is one of the best camera's I ever owned. I found this site for film suppliers: Film

        I loved the double exposure feature and even did an hour moon rise with about 20 shots on the same frame. Wish I could find all my negatives, I've moved nine times since then and would be amazed if they're still around. I must have processed about 50 rolls of film back in the day because the processing fees always included a new roll

        The 'dark room' needs to be light proof. Remember, if you open the door to a dark room, you let all the dark out

        I am hopeful this gives us something good, and Matt too if he can film anything he sees

        Cheers!

        ETA:Kodak Portra-160VC 620 Professional Color Print Film (ISO-160)
        Film for Classics Order Form
        what i really hope to get on film is a blur in the background.....if the rest of the shot is in focus but the backdrop around my device is blurred then it will show....well,something anyway...david

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        • Hi David,

          Unfortunately a blurred background is very easy to fake. Apart from just standard photographic technique of adjusting the f-stop and aperture settings (like this:How To Make The Background Blurry | Greg Jordan Photography) it is also possible to attach a camera and subject to the same moving structure and simply take a time lapse shot during that motion. Since the object and camera are both stationary with respects to each other, it remains in sharp focus while everything else seems to streak around it.

          But in the dark room, we are looking for emerging patterns from random photon emissions caused from the device energy interactions if they exist.

          If no photons are emitted over an extended period, then perhaps an external source could be introduced to see if patterns emerge in the interaction with that single source. Perhaps a closed box with a pinhole in the top to allow a very small stream of photons to strike the center of the HDPE and be distributed from there. Naturally, the inside of the box should be painted flat black to absorb the light when it strikes the sidewalls, otherwise after a few seconds the entire box would be lit up on the frame and ruin the experiment. There will probably be enough particles in the air to randomly reflect light to the lens over time and any patterns should emerge if the photons are being forced to follow specific paths.

          "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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          • Originally posted by Harvey View Post
            But in the dark room, we are looking for emerging patterns from random photon emissions caused from the device energy interactions if they exist.

            If no photons are emitted over an extended period, then perhaps an external source could be introduced to see if patterns emerge in the interaction with that single source.
            Another test would be to look for invisible charged particles, you could take the phosphorescent screen from an old TV picture tube and place that between the generator and the camera.

            Also, here is something interesting: Kirilian

            -Van

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            • vermiculite!

              this is for anyone with a working replication...TRY THIS!...get some vermiculite and put a small amount in a dish in the center of the device [like the video] and rotate back and forth.....the vermiculite starts doing some strange things.....i starts to behave like a liquid!...sometimes it keeps rotating when the rotor stops....try it....i have never seen anything like this....david

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              • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                this is for anyone with a working replication...TRY THIS!...get some vermiculite and put a small amount in a dish in the center of the device [like the video] and rotate back and forth.....the vermiculite starts doing some strange things.....i starts to behave like a liquid!...sometimes it keeps rotating when the rotor stops....try it....i have never seen anything like this....david
                Hi David, which video?

                Could it be liquefaction?

                I have also seen certain powders (like Portland Cement powder), behave like an incompressible fluid. When I was young, I used to do all sorts of experiments with that stuff, creating my own moon surface replications and dry-hydraulic experiments.

                Inertia is a very interesting thing. I am reminded of this spatial pinning of matter every time I rotate my coffee cup and see the liquid stay in place for a few milliseconds and then it plays "catch up" and starts rotating. It is a very interesting experiment, try it sometime. It implies that there is an elastic bond between the molecules that absorbs the tension in layers and eventually moves the entire mass of the liquid to match the rotation of the container over a time lag. In some cases you can completely shear the bonds and the liquid never moves.

                Also, research non-Newtonian fluids.

                "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                • This is my second post as I amd new to the forum.
                  This is to jetijs
                  One thing that I saw on Davide Lambrights pics was the Asymmetry of the 24 pieces around the circle. Since Maxwell and Teslan and others knew that nature was Asymmetric; then perhaps we should consider that every other one or do one skip two patttern or similar to these lines should be tried.
                  I keep in mind heat and cold.The heat wave (similar to antigravity) and as such possible upward gravity wave is compensated by a downward cold or gravity wave. Hence we have the two existing at the same time but performing two functions. So to make one function more apparent then the other the equation and math has to be asymmetric. Gravity seems to be a function of the magnetic wave over the time line (plane) and at right angle to the scalar plane. This would seem to be a high current and low voltage situation where magnetism is ahead of the electric flow by 90 or more, which is the exact inverse of the SM of vector electricity models where the elecgtric current leads the magnetic by 90 degrees.
                  So going to Hanilton and Maxwell if we move all to the positive space time and there does not exist the imaginary square root of one then we need to think in real time space.
                  So as some models that I am currently working on; then the Z axis is asone standing on the ocean beach with the waves coming to you. This represents the transverse wave forwand back.
                  The X axis becomes the width of a sind type wave represented by the Y axis as its ampltude, which is at 90 degrees to the transverse wave. The time line is at 45 degrees to the flow of the transverse wave going to the right of the observer on the shore and the scalar line is at 45 degrees to the left of the observer on the shore. So the total of the waves do travel forwardd on the time line but at an angle to it. The scalar does the same.
                  So the sine wave of the ocean starts at one end of the wave and rises to the other end, and at the same time a curl of the scalar can be seen at one end as aa curla and going to the other until the curl is complete and the pattern repeats. The curl of the scalr also produces a wind, or possible result of a gravity wave. This must also be tied in to the natural resonance of the earth.
                  I know the Sm will tell you of a rolling wave that is tripped up by the sea shore. However all things being done by energy fields the Smm does not allow us to think in terms of what is really happening.
                  Tesla was a master of natural observation with out the mind fog of being taught wring and having to reteach himself. I am personally well familiar with personal reteaching from what the universities taught me.

                  Anyway sorry to be on the soliloquy so long.
                  Just my two cents, for what it might be worth, if anything.

                  Dave

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                  • Hi art.ic.circle,



                    In your public post here to Jetijs I find your comments very interesting. Especially in the wave projection off the time centerline with respects to the propagation axis placing it at 45° to that axis.

                    So in your description, you show a scalar axis 90° from the time axis both of which straddle the propagation axis.

                    I am curious as to why you feel the magnetic lags the electric current in the standard model (SM). In my experience these are synchronous. Of course if we change our time reference synchronicity becomes a bit skewed. Typically in the SM the propagation axis and time axis are aligned and the electric and magnetic amplitudes are in phase.

                    In the SM Voltage and Current, however, do phase shift depending on the nature of the pathway. So while the magnetic field always stays in step with the electric current, it does not stay in step with the voltage across the inductor or capacitor.

                    I look forward to more of your posts especially as they relate gravity to magnetism
                    "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                    • video

                      YouTube - vermiculite... this is the video with the vermiculite...david...psthis is the vermiculite video...sometimes it seems as though the vermiculite sometimes tries to rotate around a different axis....very strange....david...do no worry if you do not see this in the video, but do try this....screamin vern, you gotta try and see this!...its cheap and easy!...vern, i know your replication works, you are gonna be amazed!....if you cannot find any vermiculite, i will send you some, it is that important that you see and verify what my friends and i have seen....david
                      Last edited by david lambright; 11-19-2010, 11:05 PM.

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                      • Eds clues...

                        what if the "moon" at Eds castle was showing that there two different axis?...the main axis and a secondary axis, offset from the main?....david

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                        • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                          YouTube - vermiculite... this is the video with the vermiculite...david...psthis is the vermiculite video...sometimes it seems as though the vermiculite sometimes tries to rotate around a different axis....very strange....david...do no worry if you do not see this in the video, but do try this....screamin vern, you gotta try and see this!...its cheap and easy!...vern, i know your replication works, you are gonna be amazed!....if you cannot find any vermiculite, i will send you some, it is that important that you see and verify what my friends and i have seen....david
                          Hi -
                          Vermiculite is one form of Mica. You may want to try other forms of Mica to see how they interact with this subtle energy. If you have an old electric toaster the panel that the heating wire wraps around is a sheet of Mica. Also, the little glass window on an oven is usually made with Mica making it heat resistant.

                          David, one other thing I would like ask you... can you try spreading vermiculite everywhere under the generator (ie. on the table surface) and then try it again? I think the origin of the energy is the magnetic poles on the pipe pieces. Placing vermiculite under the whole unit may reflect much of the energy that is normally lost back upward and really increase the wave effect.

                          -Van

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                          • harvey

                            i do not think it is liquifaction, but i could be wrong...i am going to try sand, different color same density, to see the movement easier?...if i get good results, i will shoot a video....david

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                            • this is a bit strange?

                              OK!...the sand works great...i will make a video tonite....and harvey, i do believe it might be liquifaction....i wonder now if the sand was wet.....sand boil?......david

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                              • Sand composition

                                Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                                OK!...the sand works great...i will make a video tonite....and harvey, i do believe it might be liquifaction....i wonder now if the sand was wet.....sand boil?......david
                                David-
                                There are many types of sand, yours may have primarily silicon dioxide in the form of quartz, chert, igneous rock, CORAL, and shell fragments. But, depending on the origin of the sand it could have a wide variety of different types of stone.

                                For instance, in White Sands National Park the sand dunes mostly consist of gypsum. Sands rich in magnetite tend to be dark or black in color. Sand may also have iron impurities within the quartz crystals giving a deep yellow color.

                                PS. My quartz crystals arrived yesterday - I bought some cheap ones which are basically just tumbled, polished stones. Hopefully we can get some observable effects by using crystals with a rotating PMH. (Also testing lodestone, and moonstone.)

                                Van

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