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  • Van, there are gaps between magnets. The poles are compressed together but that is also the only thing where they touch see for yourself:

    These magnets have 18 degree bend on them, this would make a wheel with full contact with each other if only 20 magnets were used. Since Ed used 24 magnets, they would need to have a 15 degree bend in order to get them in circle and full metal contact. Ford T magneto used only 16 magnets and as the bases of the magnets were almost together, the ends were far apart from each other.
    I tried putting 4 extra coils on the wheel and pulse all 8 coils in parallel using 24V, that makes a huge spark but still nothing happens. I am sure that we need the lock effect somewhere on the wheel, but I guess it wont be the magnets. Maybe the clover shaped ring on top. I will get the colver shaped ring lasercut for me and see how this works

    nat1971a, what experiment exactly do you propose?
    It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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    • Jetijs wheel

      Sorry, Jetijs, I think you may be right on the angle of the magnets and the separation between them. My thinking there was that Dave ground down the contact surfaces (or sanded them) for good metal on metal contact. In my opinion, if the pieces are not in close phyiscal contact they cannot lock. Perhaps connecting on just the ends is enough to do it.

      Some of the magnets on Ed's wheel really do look paralell on at least one edge, but that could just be the angle of the photo.

      I am really interested to see the results of your clover-shaped PMH ring.

      Also, there is a guy is selling a completed wheel on EBAY. He wants something like $4600 or best offer? Anyway I have looked at many of his photos and videos and it seems like he is very close to an Ed Leedslanin wheel, I'd say you are very close to having it figured out.

      Jon Depew did some work in this area, and his ring was 5 layers deep. I know that is a LOT of construction to put into it. His videos seem to lack any descriptive audio and he leaves many of us guessing about the principles he says he has discovered and the "magnetic gears" he describes.

      Hopefully you can get a lock and some sort of result with 1 ring, and then later increase the effect with more layers, if it seems too weak with a single layer.

      I think everyone here hopes you will be successful and make yet another working device.
      Best wishes,
      Van

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      • Hi Jetijs

        Bravo as usual for your great work

        so far i see on the pix

        1- the magnetic poles seems not to be joined = no contact (blue color arrow)

        2- there seems to be small coills on each corner (lila color arrow)

        3- it seems that the iron piece is one single piece joined at the green arrow

        Hope this helps and waiting for your results

        good luck at all

        Laurent
        Last edited by woopy; 01-26-2011, 10:47 AM.

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        • If you look at the clover carefully, you will see that it is a leaf spring wrapped back on itself. The overlapping ends are in the lower left quadrant in the picture above.

          Also, you can see the wires that hold the clover to the stand bolts. At first I thought perhaps these were coils to energize the clover with, but in retrospect I have decided they are only to secure it. I base this decision on the nature in which the wire is twisted and terminated - it is a standard physical twist often used in farming and bale work. So I don't think they were there for electrical reasons.

          However, we cannot ignore the question as to why the special effort was made to bend the spring steel and form it inside the stand bolts, when it appears it would have encircled them fine with no extra work involved. Heating and bending this metal is no easy task, and the work involved intimates that the shape had some importance. Superficially, we could suggest that the bends were only to keep the 'ring' from slipping. But the shape (quatrefoil) itself is seen in freemason designs:
          +freemason +quatrefoil - Google Search


          And it has a very specific geometry:


          Could the 'Clover' in Ed's generator be 'PMH Locked'? From a scientific perspective the answer is yes. Any magnetic flux induced in the ring would remain in the ring unless the flux path were broken, even though the ring is not a real circle. Could the magnets themselves be 'PMH Locked' like David's rig? No. The reason is because the poles are inverted every other one and so the flux is countered. In David's rig, each element has a N and S pole, but the arrangement is N--SN---SN---SN---S all the way around. In Ed's generator, modern day readings show his magnets to be arranged N---SS---NN---SS----N all the way around, and stacked all NN vertically and all SS vertically five high. So I say with utmost confidence that Ed's magnets were not PMH locked. The PMH lock is no different than stringing a lot of magnets together in a circle - you cannot do that if the poles are inverted, the N must all face the same flux direction around the circle.

          Relativity:
          Once a magnetic flux is trapped in a PMH style circle, the question arises as to whether or not electrical energy is produced by that static arrangement. It is well known that 'moving' electrical charges have magnetic fields associated with them. Likewise, it is well known that if a magnetic field passes through an conductor, that it will induce electrical current in that conductor (provided a flux differential exists). But what if the flux is just there, trapped, static? What if the flux carrier (the clover) always moves with the flux, together with it - or does it? How would we know? Does magnetic flux have inertia? If we accelerate the flux conductor, is there a time lag for the flux to 'catch up'? And what is even more thought provoking; what constitutes 'moving'? These were the types of questions running through the minds of physicists at the end of the 19th century as the 1800's came to a close over 110 years ago. By the time Einstein came along in the beginning of the 20th century around 1912, work was already being done on trying to understand why electric and magnetic seem to be inexorably linked. The only thing that seems to make a difference is the point of view of the observer. Depending on the relative motion, one observer may see an electric charge and the other observer sees a magnetic field for the same event. Curious, that electromagnetic events seem to be relative to the observer. But could it be that there is an Aether that moves with the observers? Could it be that these events are relative to the Aether instead? A person being pulled along in a river by the currents may see a salmon swimming upstream and declare, "my look at how fast that salmon swam past me" - yet an observer on the shore my see the salmon actually swimming backwards as the current takes them down stream only because they cannot keep up. Without a point of reference, the observations can become meaningless. Perhaps we are like that person in the river and the Aether is moving us along at the same rate (or nearly so) as the Earth turns. So we 'think' what we see is because of us observing it, but perhaps the action is relative to the Aether, not us. Maybe we can 'stand on the shore' so to speak and see what is really happening.

          When Ed would spin his generator, the flux trapped inside the clover does not follow a continuous path, but instead it oscillates in and out from the center relative to the Aether. Personally, I believe "the Aether" is nothing more than space-time but that is another story, it can still be treated as a referential point like the water in a flowing river. Our problem is that there is no shoreline in sight, nothing to use as an overarching anchor. Nevertheless, let us suppose that the flux inside the clover begins interacting with space and time because it is both moving and migrating. If there is an inertial component (and I think there is) we may find an electrical charge formed in the material relative to Ed (and the Aether in which he stands). How could we test such a hypothesis?

          If two U-shaped PMH were 'locked' and suspended by some non conductive thread, and then caused to spin on that thread, would the material become charged? What if we spun them in opposite directions and then measured them with a voltmeter with one probe on one and the other probe on the other - would it show anything? Is there a minimum size or specific shape required to produce good results, if any?

          Last edited by Harvey; 12-07-2010, 12:02 AM.
          "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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          • What is missing in Ed's rig?

            I think Harvey has some great questions!

            If we consider that the form follows the function, then the clover-leaf shape on the top must do something. In my mind's eye I can imagine Ed's wheel producing something like what David saw - let's say a shimmering ripple of energy - that would either be projected upward or downward (as some have said... depending on the direction of rotation). Assuming that it's creating an "updraft" of this energy, the clover-shape (Quatrefoil) could catch some of that energy and create spirals, and eddies in the space between the wheel and whatever was situated above it.

            Most people who have read about Coral Castle come to the conclusion that Ed's device had one or more additional parts that were taken or misplaced. I have heard ideas such as a pyramid, but I don't think I beleive that - while a pyramid could sit on the 4 points of the "clover-leaf" it would be prone to slipping off, and the crank handle would have been in the way. I don't think his Castle contained any pyramid-shaped stones... that may be an indication of how his mind worked. I also wonder how the Latvian star or Mogen David may be important, since they appear in several locations and forms throughout the site.

            I have read that Ed strapped "bottle capacitors" (which can still be seen in his work area) to the wood bench next to the wheel, and used the rotating magnetic force to induce electrical current which he probably gathered in the bottles for later use (like a modern day rechargeable battery).

            I suspect that Ed's wheel had an audio component to it - I read somwhere that it "sang" or made a noise when he was using it. If the source of the audio input came from OUTSIDE the wheel, it could have been introduced by something as simple as a bronze bell. The bell he kept near the metal door, could have been temporarily suspended over the wheel and "rung" to create the addition of vibrational audio input. ("Ring twice.")

            PS. My Quatrefoil PMH design is about 50% complete, but I had a shaping tool break that is going to take some time to replace.
            -Van

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            • If you wonder about star of David, then you MUST see Nassims video about sacred geometry. The star of David is a 2D representation of tetrahedron which is the base of everything. The videos are long, but very interesting and entertaining and leaves no questions unanswered

              (PART 1) Nassim Haramein at the Rogue Valley Metaphysical Library. 2003. (4 HRS)
              (PART 1) Nassim Haramein at the Rogue Valley Metaphysical Library. 2003. (4 HRS)
              It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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              • @David, Jetijs & Harvey;

                do one of you have one the operating wheels of David on hand?
                I have a kind request, short test please - something is nagging.

                Van T Stride above is right; there were singing and sometimes an earie sound
                heard from E.L's place when he was working. Reminds me of the Tibet monks
                and their sound levitation of stones.

                Please try to use a microphone above or around the wheel; see if there is an
                acoustic/radio wave somehow involved? You might need to make use of an
                additional copper choke as pick up.

                would appreciate very much; curiousity can kill!
                Last edited by Aromaz; 12-07-2010, 01:46 PM.
                Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                • @ David

                  Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                  Lambright, you seem like a nice guy but you have been bumbling on this topic here and at Energetic Forum for a good part of a year with thousands of posts. I'm not sure you have much to 'boast' about as regards what 'your' device can or cannot do. Right now it cannot do a damn useful thing and you continue to play and post useless videos which don't really show the viewer anything...

                  E-Goose...........sorry for wasting your time...david
                  David-

                  My whole reason for joining this site, and posting on this forum is YOUR work, not that of E-Goose or any other person. I saw your Youtube videos and had to know what you were up to - I am very interested in what Ed knew, and how humans can access that power for healing and for improving society. I don't fully trust any government or agency or instituion to disclose the information (if they had it - why on earth would they share it?) that you already know - and others will eventually stumble on to.

                  I hope you will not let this deter you. I agree with E-Goose only in that I think your personal excitement over what you rediscovered, and desire to help others see it, has limited the discovery (up to this point). Hopefully all of us (readers of this thread) thinking and asking questions will help to draw out the truth of what Ed did with his wheel, and how we can make our own devices, too.

                  Please read back over some of our questions on this thread, and help us (who are genuinely interested in seeing this info made public) test some of our ideas. I know you have many things you want to test, please keep the videos coming, and forget about any negativity you're getting from people who haven't personally felt the interaction between the stone and a PMH device.

                  -Van

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                  • hi

                    i have been busy.....i will post the videos soon...david

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                    • gold!

                      hi ...i have done something interesting.....i was experimenting with some gold leaf and i succeeded in making it paramagnetic...i was able to pick it up with a magnet..this was done by putting the leaf between the junction of a PMH and energizing it...i left it like that a few hours and now part of the leaf sticks to a magnet...i am not sure of the impurities in my leaf....but in any case it worked.....david

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                      • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                        hi ...i have done something interesting.....i was experimenting with some gold leaf and i succeeded in making it paramagnetic...i was able to pick it up with a magnet..this was done by putting the leaf between the junction of a PMH and energizing it...i left it like that a few hours and now part of the leaf sticks to a magnet...i am not sure of the impurities in my leaf....but in any case it worked.....david
                        Someone suggested enclosing the metal with plastic prior to magnetizing it to ensure no microscopic iron dust is being transferred into the softer metal surface. That was back when we were doing the aluminum. I didn't try that. Plus, we wouldn't know what impact the extra dielectric thickness would have on the effect so it introduces a new unknown.

                        But theoretically, the surface of the PMH and my magnets would collect those small dust particles and they could be transferred to the softer metal under the pressures applied by the magnetic locking.

                        But magnetic gold certainly sounds interesting
                        "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                        • Hi David
                          I was wondering where you disapeared
                          It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                          • hi

                            a new kind of visible radiant energy? i thought this post was pretty good.....david

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                            • Forgive me, I saw this thread back when it started and read up to about page 15, but have since noticed a huge amount of posts made. I don't really have too much time today to sift through it all, but:

                              Jetijs, it seems you were meant to get a working model? Have you received it yet or when is it due to arrive at your location?

                              So, do we have any other people, in the past 60 pages or so, who have replicated this and felt / seen the same effect?

                              I noticed one guy who got it from David said he did see/feel a small effect and he son and wife saw it too. Any other stories like this?

                              David you disappeared for a week it seems!

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                              • krzy

                                so far their are at least five replications that have the same results ....but there are some who do not get results...i am compiling names and info, photos etc., and i will post everything on like 6 forums...right now, matt emery has the device that jetijs will get next...he should be done with it soon ?...i will inquire about that...this is important so thanks everyone for being interested...PS i do get sidetracked sometimes so bear with me please...david

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