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  • Heat rays, or infra-red rays, require a dense medium, for they cannot pass through a vacuum. Visible light can travel in a semi-vacuum and in a dense medium to a certain extent, but not as well as infra-red rays do. In an absolute vacuum there is no propagation of light. This can better be seen in the so-called holes in space, such as the "Coal Sack" in the Milky Way. In a Geissler tube also, it can be seen that light ceases to cast a shadow when the pressure within the tube is very low. However, a vacuum is the ideal medium for the propagation of waves above the frequency of visible light.

    Looking at the problem in this way, the light that reaches the Earth's surface is modified. If this were not so, the chemical rays would destroy life on Earth. Behold the wisdom of God, who protects the planets close to the Sun by giving them a cloak of dense atmosphere and ether, and gives those distant ones, whose speed of revolution is low, a thin covering. The modification of solar light can be seen at sunrise or sunset, when it is red, whereas at midday it is white. This modification from white to red takes place over a distance of 6,758 km., equal to the equatorial radius of Earth, which is the extra distance the light must travel to reach the observer, compared with the light at midday. While the latter has to penetrate 400,822 km. of ether, the light of the rising Sun has to travel 407,200 km. Between white and red light there is a difference of 30,000 mgcs. per second. If the light loses 30,000 mgcs. in 6,758 km., how much will it lose in 407,200?

    If the wavelength remains the same and the frequency is considerably increased, this must mean that the waves from the Sum reach the Earth's etheric covering at a much higher speed. We can see the same thing in the difference of the speed of light in the atmosphere and in water. It is only 140,000 miles per second in water, as opposed to 186,000 in the atmosphere. Therefore, density has a considerable effect on its speed. Light which becomes visible on reaching the Earth's surface reaches the etheric envelope of the Earth at a speed of 6,250,000 miles per second, and light that is above the visible spectrum on reaching the Earth arrives at far higher speeds. For the Sun emits its energy at various wavelengths and at different frequencies. Its emission is never uniform.

    We have reached a point where we can say that the light of the Sun exerts on Earth a pressure equal to the weight of light, measured at the Earth's surface, plus the energy lost in traversing the 400,000 km. of etheric mass.

    GB

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    • GB, our atmosphere is mostly vacuum space with some gasses and water mixed in. All EM radiation is able to traverse a vacuum, including IR. Also, your link to the Geissler Tube seems missing and your description seems to be for the Crookes Tube. It should be noted that in both cases, photons are generated by electrons interacting with other matter within the tube. The reaction is like the CRT in my television where electrons interact with the phosphor and produce visible light which easily exits the vacuum and passes through glass with no problem.

      I've always understood the colors associated with sunrise and sunset to be related to scattering. Also of note is the atmospheric refraction that plays a part too. Since the Exosphere is 10,000 km above the surface of the Earth at noon with no change in white light, I find it difficult to understand how going from 10,000 km to 16,378 km will turn it from white to red. How does the light know not to change the first 10,000 km? It seems more reasonable that it is not the distance that effects the light color as much as it is the angle and medium. The air has higher density closer to the surface of the Earth and there is some lensing effects due to the curvature and boundary layers. But even then, it is the scattering that gives us the blue and the red, not the lensing. The Green Flash however would be associated with refraction.

      "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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      • So compared to normal thermal radiating heat, does black body radiation (the EM kind) dissipate heat as quickly (specifically in a vacuum)? I got the impression that it doesn't (thus the reason a thermos will hold hot liquid for a long period of time but eventually the substance does cool down).

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        • Originally posted by occy30 View Post
          So compared to normal thermal radiating heat, does black body radiation (the EM kind) dissipate heat as quickly (specifically in a vacuum)? I got the impression that it doesn't (thus the reason a thermos will hold hot liquid for a long period of time but eventually the substance does cool down).
          Heat transfer by conduction is generally much more effective than heat transfer by radiation.

          When you state "normal thermal radiating heat" we get a mixed bag of possibilities. This is because 'normal' and 'radiating' are context dependent. Generally, radiating has to do with something leaving or entering a point or body. But I will take your statement to mean the most common form of heat encountered by humans in which they can detect it with biological sensors in their skin at a distance from a thermal source. This type of heat transfer is both convective and radiative because the air around us is a fluid but some of the radiation still makes it through to the human sensors uninhibited.

          If we take that same heat source and put it in a vacuum, it loses the advantage of transferring energy via conduction and convection (convection is really a special case of conduction along with radiative absorption occurring at a particulate level). Therefore, the energy in the vacuum can only leave the source via radiation. The frequency and thus the energy of the EM photons emitted depends on the material and the temperatures involved.

          A transparent Dewar will prevent a great deal of thermal loss via conduction (some still occurs at the neck), but it will not prevent the radiative losses. Nor will it prevent the radiative gains from the environment. As mentioned in my prior post, a reflective coating is often added that keeps the radiation from escaping. However it is known that the reflective coating itself will radiate from the back side to some degree so energy does still escape.

          "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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          • By the way, has anyone found David? It's been unusually quiet without him.

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            • Effects of Solunar events

              Hi-
              For anyone attempting to understand what Ed was observing in the sky it might be helpful to read this page: Hunting and Fishing Solunar (sun and moon phase) Calendar - it is written as a guide for optimal hunting and fishing, however I think it is important in understanding how Solar and Lunar events together produce tangible changes which must affect all life on earth. I was reading Peak Days, Peak Months, and Peak Times, and immediately saw a connection to Ed's work at Coral Castle.
              It's clear he was interested in far more than the moon and sun, but you have to begin there and then factor in how other bodies influnence bigger picture.

              PS. Where's David?

              -Van

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              • i am back

                i just had to take a break...i have been working on stuff!...i have built a larger device, 11" dia. x 4" deep... i will get some video soon...jet, did matt ever get that device sent to you?....harvey and glenn, does the live TV offer still stand?...anyway i am back......david

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                • Welcome back David

                  Hope you enjoyed the break.

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                  • seeing?

                    Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                    i just had to take a break...i have been working on stuff!...i have built a larger device, 11" dia. x 4" deep... i will get some video soon...jet, did matt ever get that device sent to you?....harvey and glenn, does the live TV offer still stand?...anyway i am back......david
                    hello David, have you tried to catch distortions in the shadows of your device on video? Try placing it close to a white background and shine a light on it and watch the shadows on the wall.......

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                    • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                      i just had to take a break...i have been working on stuff!...i have built a larger device, 11" dia. x 4" deep... i will get some video soon...jet, did matt ever get that device sent to you?....harvey and glenn, does the live TV offer still stand?...anyway i am back......david
                      Hi David.
                      I have never received anything. Also I tried emailing Matt several times, all my messages came back undelivered by that email host.
                      It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                      • jet

                        here is an email from matt....My cousin was on the fence about wheather or not he could sense anything emanating, but I could see it distinctively and my son could as well. I would like to have it another week if possible as there are a few more things I would like to test out? Do you have jetijs address or email address? ------i will pm you with matts info

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                        • ???

                          jet, i do not know what has happened to matt and my device...i am glad that he and his son see the effects i describe....my latest device is twice as large as the first design....i am uploading a video as we speak that should shed some light on the optical distortion that my devices create....when watching my videos, try viewing in all modes [240p-720p]....the vermiculite looks like it is churning and after i stop the device, this churning continues....and it is able to be captured on video....i am still planing to use my brownie camera to document this energy...thanks everyone for being patient with me, this is all new to me also...rubberband, i have tried what you describe, i even shot some video, tried many different light sources, but nothing really good...YET...hopefully this new video will be a little better....i have been in contact with a guy who works for FLIR, and i still think FLIR will show a whole lot more.....i will let you know....and jet, i do not know whats up with matt remember bruce?...he disappeared for a minute also....maybe matt will surface again?....jet, i still have my first model, or i could make another one, but i am determined to get one to you to check out..[harvey and glenn too!]...that is if they still are interested.....i should have the video up this evening, thanks everyone...david PS...i know my writing style is annoying to some, sorry....

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                          • new video

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC2NKeGO0W8 check this one....david

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                            • ?????

                              watch the center of the dish...it does not happen every time, but when it does, it is very noticeable....live it is the same way, and whoever is watching all see the same thing at the same time!....at least this shows there IS an optical distortion emanating from the center of my device....please note the time of the most vivid effect....at 4:30 is a pretty good one........david

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                              • good news

                                jet, i got an email from matt, he will be sending it friday, so watch the mail...david

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