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    there are some who would not like this to amount to any thing.....so that they may sell their "books" on theory.......theorisly...........david........"mag netircity ,thats what Ed would have called it".........a quote from a different forum...so what does it do ? how does this theory interact with matter?...........david
    Last edited by david lambright; 05-21-2010, 09:15 PM. Reason: truth

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    • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
      just a thought...if there is any unwanted magnetic frequency perhaps "grounding" the device then charging might help...i still have a section of the original pipe, i only need a little over 24" for #2...i could mail you enough of it to replicate if you think that might help.........david
      David, that would be great
      I was going to ask you for a small sample of that pipe anyway to make a spectral analysis of the material so that we could be sure what alloy this is. I have some friends that can make this analysis for me If you could mail me those pipes I would be glad, I will PM you my address.
      Also tomorrow I will meet some very sensitive persons and show my device to them, but so far they have "connected" to the device only though a photo and they say, that there is a very powerful field around that device with some odd properties. Will learn more about this tomorrow and post the results, might be interesting
      Thank you!
      Jetijs
      It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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      • Originally posted by remelic View Post
        Source:Thunderbolts Forum • View topic - gravity waves found

        Be careful of these claims. If you cannot see the effect with you eyes or feel it with your hands then it isn't happening.
        Curious argument you use remelic. There is no way you can feel or see a whole host of phenomena that are, nonetheless very real. Xrays spring to mind. Also a whole host of particles such as neutrinos - known to be bombarding us in the billions - but entirely undetectable. I could bore you with a really long list. We can neither see nor feel them. Quite apart from which I got the distinct impression that both Dave and NorthWind both saw and felt anomalies? Not sure if you're cautioning us or if you're proposing alternative methods of detection. Can we impose on you to explain yourself better. And perhaps give us the credentials of the person that you quoted us above? I'm not satisfied from what he's written there that he knows more or less about digital photography than any of us.

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        • i saw a pic of segments sitting on what looks like a ceramic magnet?

          Guilty, Yes I used the magnet to help hold my peaces in place. I have done numerous experiments Dave. Nothing significant to report.



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          • Rick,
            I was wondering when you would post any results
            Is that an infrared camera?
            It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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            • Yes Jetijs, That was in the yard for about 30 minutes in direct sunlight before I took the pics. I was inside before that with my lasers, 405nm and 532nm both 200mw shinning the beams in all possible directions around the device. Also did many different rocks and metal testing. Pulled my wife in for a second opinion also.

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              • @Rick,

                Why are we seeing an offset between the thermographic image and the underlay?
                "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                • @Glen,

                  I need to talk with you regarding the Flux locations.

                  Also, I have developed a new formula for calculating the arclength of an ellipsoid. It seems to be a good approximation without the need for any integration - I'm puzzled why Euler did not spot this relationship and why I can find nothing on the internet regarding the process.


                  Here is something to consider:

                  Take the area of a circle of 100 units. Calculate the perimeter (circumference)

                  Now take the same area of a square of 100 units. Calculate the perimeter.

                  How would this differential impact shipping containers and resource materials used to build them?

                  More food for thought regarding gravity:
                  Both Electric Forces and Magnetic forces are immensely greater than the force of Gravity. Like forces repel and opposite forces attract - 3rd grade stuff right? Now, how much 'like' force would be needed to counteract a 2 Ton gravitational force? The Earth has a negative potential relative to electrozero.

                  How much negative would we need to pool under a two ton coral block charged to the same potential to create weightlessness? How could putting a positive potential in a Box at the top of a tri-pole aid in the levitation? If you were out in the middle of a coral field in the 1940's or '50's and needed electricity to produce those fields, how would you do it? What would be the best way to get more negative electrical charge to group together in one spot on the Earth?

                  Perhaps I have given away too much - but I am confident that only those who truly understand it will build it only those who build it will protect it with responsibility.

                  "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                  • @Rick,

                    Why are we seeing an offset between the thermographic image and the underlay?


                    Just the option I have the camera on. I like that view so I can see what I am looking at. I can set it directly on top also, but then you could not see what was underneath. This is what I am using:
                    Infrared Digital Camera, Infrared Video Camera, Infrared Thermal Camera, tir1
                    If you David or anyone else wants me to test anything just say so, I am always game for experiments.

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                    • Originally posted by rick123 View Post
                      @Rick,

                      Why are we seeing an offset between the thermographic image and the underlay?


                      Just the option I have the camera on. I like that view so I can see what I am looking at. I can set it directly on top also, but then you could not see what was underneath. This is what I am using:
                      Infrared Digital Camera, Infrared Video Camera, Infrared Thermal Camera, tir1
                      If you David or anyone else wants me to test anything just say so, I am always game for experiments.

                      Thank you, very nice setup there.

                      What do you think of my suggestion back in this post?

                      http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post95745

                      Is that difficult to do with your rig? That camera of yours could probably show us a lot in that experiment without needing all of the extra thermometer measurements.

                      Cheers,

                      "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                      • jet

                        the pipe is in the mail!...........david

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                        • torroidal lock

                          Originally posted by witsend View Post
                          Hi cody. Just something that I think you may have missed. Our mainstream scientists teach us that a magnetic field inside a cylinder simply disappears. In other words, conventional teaching here is that the magnetic field cannot be sustained. Some have proposed that it moves into the 'skin' of the material itself. But - to the best of my knowledge - there is nothing conclusive on this. Your own design - those segmented pieces - puts paid to this as it proves that the field is very much there - even though it's not measurable. I think your design is a very elegant variation on Dave's test and I am wondering how this will work on a toroid. If you can get this to 'hold' in a magnetic lock then we really do have a 'closed' magnetic field. Just to let you know that I'll be trying this - but without the segments. Just a solid pipe bent into a toroid. I want to see if it will generate an axial spin at 180 degrees to the earth's magnetic fields. It'll be interesting.
                          ihave experimented with different toroidal shapes i will take some photos of them ..the only pipe toroid was stainless steel and did not lock....one made of steel will lock.......david

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                          • What if . . . ?

                            Been around but unfortunatley too occupied with making living under difficult economic conditions of world and Thailand

                            @David: Please try a simple experiment. Lift your device up say 150cm above ground. Now do all your experiments 'under' your device.

                            Also get spring/hanging scale like the use for fishing competitions. Quite cheap.
                            Hang your test objects on scale and observe if there are fluctuations in weight.

                            What if? When looking at Leedskalnin photos, he had his device mounted on a tripod something like 6 meter high? What if that contraption actualy act to deflect gravity push towards earth? Like I stated before and still stand on: "Gravity is a result of universal EM pushing force".

                            Imagine: The simplicity in ED L. complete operations might have been:
                            By having his device placed above the object he wish to relocate, he divert the EM gravity push on the object, (like a umbrella shield) thus cause the object to be 'lighter' and movable by little force.

                            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                            • leedskalnin

                              can any one tell me what causes the red in pic#5 at LEEDSKALNIN PHOTO archives

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                              • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                                ihave experimented with different toroidal shapes i will take some photos of them ..the only pipe toroid was stainless steel and did not lock....one made of steel will lock.......david
                                Wow Dave. You've done way more here than I realised. I would love to see some results when you're good and ready. Also, can you give us a link to that #5 number of Leedskalnin. Ashamed to admit it but I'm entirely 'link' dependent.

                                We're also testing variations of your device - all in stainless steel - but I'm awaiting delivery of a whole lot of shapes that I hope to photograph and test. Great fun here Dave. You've opened a whole new world. What I find exhilarating is that it's so easy to establish a magnetic field. I simply never realised this. Simply can't thank you enough. On a thousand different levels.


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