gravity waves found

[sucahyo]

Nor do I. That WOULD be interesting. Not sure that anyone claims this? And not sure why you say it's BEEN claimed.

Jetijs SAID that his friend see it. read any quote I post above. Here is the exact quote:
"Anyway, the bottom line is that it seems that no matter of how you energize your coil (I mean no matter where the plus and minus of the battery goes), if you rotate it clockwise it always makes a kind of standing wave coming out from the sides of the wheel, like orbits. One was about 3m in diameter, the other was about 5m in diameter. There are more standing waves further away, but they are not so stron as the first two."

[witsend]

circles within circles

I've sent a link of all the appropriate 'explanations' for the circle within circles number to a mathematician - together with a slew of questions that I have. Finally located one - thank God.

When and 'if' I get an answer I'll post it here. And I'm looking into the options for my own software so that I can better explain what I'm trying to point to. Clearly my objects here are really badly explained. It's a tough one when the basic concept is so apparently simple and yet actually very complex. Dismissing the basic concept for it's simplicity somewhat defeats the object of pointing to it's complexity.

[witsend]

Jetijs SAID that his friend see it. read any quote I post above. Here is the exact quote:
"Anyway, the bottom line is that it seems that no matter of how you energize your coil (I mean no matter where the plus and minus of the battery goes), if you rotate it clockwise it always makes a kind of standing wave coming out from the sides of the wheel, like orbits. One was about 3m in diameter, the other was about 5m in diameter. There are more standing waves further away, but they are not so stron as the first two."

Apologies sucahyo. Indeed. This was seen by Jet's 'senstives'. Such has entirely eluded me personally. But I'm not a sensitive. Wish I were. LOL. Meanwhile - here's the thing. ANYONE can see the Lambright Glimmer on the videos. And some can see the Lambright glimmer directly off their rigs. Bruce actually refers to the 'progress' in seeing this. His own family see it. And having seen it once - then it's immediately apparent.

Guys - more updates on my own 'control' variation. Definitely NO Lambright Glimmer seen by either me or anyone else. BUT there are real anomalies re attraction and repulson of objects held near it. I've got another photo which I'll post when the light allows it.

[sucahyo]

We need better way to "visualize" it .

[witsend]

We need better way to "visualize" it .

Not really. Just use your eyes. It is visible. It really is. Even I can see it and I'm half blind.

[Harvey]

We need better way to "visualize" it .

I agree completely. I want to see this and none that I have shown the videos to can see what others 'claim' they see. This is why I thought perhaps the video reference was related to software compression and specific monitors somehow canceling the effect for some of us. I viewed it on many different systems (video cards) and Monitors - I could not see it and my eyes were good enough to get a medical 3rd class pilots certificate in 2003. Perhaps they have changed in 7 years, but I don't think that much. Besides, with today's technology, I can zoom in on just about any image with very great detail.


So a better way would be greatly appreciated

[witsend]

The 'claim' to see what is visible is not an allegation. Nor is it fantasy. I have personally shown 3 engineers the video and all three saw it immediately. AND THEY ARE NOT OU ENTHUSIASTS. No hysterical need to endorse or deny anything - LOL. I am now hoping to show an academic engineer. But he's off campus and it's difficult getting hold of him.

I can understand why it's 'missed' at first view. I missed it myself. REPEATEDLY. One needs to include the 'static' edge against the 'moving' field. When you align both - then it's unmistakable. We are not schooled in this effect because, thus far, I believe it has not been seen. The point is one looks at the one field. Then the other. One needs to view the two fields together. Peripheral vision guys! It's there. I SO understand Dave's urgency to show this to other 'witnesses'. While it's subtle - it's also, once seen, unmistakable. And - for me - I have NEVER seen anything so strange. It's like something moving through space - yet that something is intangible. It's moving lights or moving 'glitters'. Very compelling.

[IndianaBoys]

So a better way would be greatly appreciated

Harvey,
From experience, the blue light method works!
Put yourself in a dark room.
Put a blue light bulb into a lamp and turn it on and place it behind you.
Put the PMH in front of you.
You can put the PHM on a table and seat yourself at the table so you are comfortable and have the lamp with the blue light behind you on the floor.

The blue light will help to train the eyes to perceive electromagnetic radiation outside the normal spectrum of visible light

IndianaBoys

[witsend]

Harvey,
From experience, the blue light method works!
Put yourself in a dark room.
Put a blue light bulb into a lamp and turn it on and place it behind you.
Put the PMH in front of you.
You can put the PHM on a table and seat yourself at the table so you are comfortable and have the lamp with the blue light behind you on the floor.

The blue light will help to train the eyes to perceive electromagnetic radiation outside the normal spectrum of visible light

IndianaBoys

I take it you've done this? You have a this PMH (presumably) and have seen this? It is my opinion that as this effect is evident across a wide section of those that have witnessed it - that this electromagnetic radiation is NOT oustide the normal spectrum of visible light. It's well within. This is not IMAGINED.

BTW This is the first report that it's visible also with a PMH - if, indeed, you've done this experiment. But Indiana - I'd be glad to disabuse you of any suggestion that one needs to 'learn' to view beyond the visible spectrum. That - in itself - is somewhat contradictory. One's eyes are evolved to view within a certain range of light frequencies. I very much doubt that I or the others have suddenly evolved the capacity to view a wider range of this. I suppose it could be the case? But in my humble opinion - it's highly unlikely.

I suppose if I wanted to diminish the importance of this evidence I'd need to suggest that it was purely imagined. But I'd rather keep to the evidence and emphasise the importance. And I assure you that the camera is indeed able to show exactly what the eye is seeing. It just needs to be 'schooled' into the difference between what is not glimmering and what is glimmering. That's not so readily available to the general 'vocabulary' so to speak - of one's eyes. Or rather - not to mine.

But I appreciate that the effect is subtle. I can understand why some are not able to see it immediately. I'm very much in this category of witnesses.

[gravityblock]

Some people are able to see further into the infrared or ultraviolet portions of the electromagnetic spectrum than others. Some may be able to see it at first sight, others may need to concentrate a little more, while others may never see it. Cameras pick up a broader range of the electromagnetic spectrum than the human eye, thus it may be captured on video when it's not normally visible. It may be possible to train yourself to see further into the electromagnetic spectrum as IndianaBoys suggest.

GB

[witsend]

Some people are able to see further into the infrared or ultraviolet portions of the electromagnetic spectrum than others. Some may be able to see it at first sight, others may need to concentrate a little more, while others may never see it. Cameras pick up a broader range of the electromagnetic spectrum than the human eye, thus it may be captured on video when it's not normally visible. It may be possible to train yourself to see further into the electromagnetic spectrum as IndianaBoys suggest.

GB

Hi GB. I guess you're right. The thing is that my emphasis on it's visibility is that I actually resigned myself to NEVER seeing it as my eyesight is really compromised. So my reasoning is this. If I can, then anyone can. But it may be a gross over simplification. I know that there's that thing about 'flavours' where some people simply can never pick out distinctive ingredients that are self-evident to others. My real concern here is that this 'effect' is attributed to imagination and fantasy when it is, rather, so self evident.

[witsend]

Guys - here's another setup. This time I took new 'pieces' - sparked each segment and looked for those elusive lights. Still could not see them. There was evidence of 'cold' but our arrangement allows for draughts when it's spinning - so not a dependable observation. So. Having now build 5 variations of the same rig I can assure you all that the ONLY anomalous fact is that this rig too is definitely magnetised - evident in the compas distortions. And that it seems to 'attract' 'repel' a wide variety of materials variously both held and hung in proximity to the rig. The 'response' appears to be consistent with magnetised properties. I think what I'm trying to say here is that the response to objects such as plastic, pens, string and steel - seems to respond as do magnets - when held in that same proximity. In effect it seems to 'find' a magnetic property in materials that are not traditionally considered to be dimagnetic, paramagnetic or even ferromagnetic. It's strange.

However, I think I can now conclude that there's something about Dave's rig that is able to produce that Lambright Glimmer that this variation simply does not produce. In other words the assymetry of his sections seems to be required. Hopefully it's not all time wasted.

[sucahyo]

Not really. Just use your eyes. It is visible. It really is. Even I can see it and I'm half blind.

We need a mean to quantify the output of our device. I can not rely on what I see since I can't even see anything from either my HV thrust or my PMH.

I also can not rely on something that require high concentration to notice. What if I can't tell if the wave is upward or downward, wether it is focused or spread out? Wether it enhanced or reduced?

Why I get the feeling that anyone claim succesful replication is a sensitive or geting help from one?

Is there a way an unsensitive person to successfully replicate a device.

Or video camera able to capture something we can not see? like what posted by IndianaBoys about PIP?

[witsend]

Another thing I've been considering is the Hutchinson Effect (HE) as it may relate to the Lambright effect. I know I'm on dangerous waters here as many readers and, possibly, members, do not subscribe to that effect being more than a hoax. It's therefore possibly a damaging analogy at best. Personally I'm satisfied that the the HE is real. But that's only an opinion.

I'm specifically referring to the picture of an aluminium (I think it was) bar of metal that seemed to have melted into distinctive patterns that were probably related to the crystalline structure of the slag when it hardened. It seemed threaded and structured. Sorry I don't know how to post the picture. Nor do I have the link. Perhaps someone can oblige. In any event. We know he applies some complex radiation and that it requires a certain amount of screening. My thinking is that perhaps he is transferring through space the same fields as Dave's rig - evident in that Lambright Glimmer. Obviously he is achieving a far more dramatic effect.

I realise that this proposal is a 'long shot'. But here's the thinking. We know that the Lambright Glimmer is related to the way those magnetic fields have been aligned and we know that this alignment seems to induce a kind of 'magnetic' response in material - as evident in my previous post. In other words - material that is not traditionally considered to be responsive to magnetic fields - are responding. This, to my way of thinking indicates that there are magnetic properties in those materials. I'm specifically not referring to electric fields at this point, because there's no 'current' path between the rig and those materials. I've long proposed that there is a 'magnetic' binding between atoms that is extraneous to the atom itself. Could it be that these form fields that can move through space - and that they are then able to interact with the binding magnetic fields of proximate materials. This would then occur regardless of their molecular and atomic structures which seems to be evident. And then, just possibly, these binding fields interact with the applied field? Just a thought. It would certainly be an explanation - but based on a shaky premise.

[Harvey]

Harvey,
From experience, the blue light method works!
Put yourself in a dark room.
Put a blue light bulb into a lamp and turn it on and place it behind you.
Put the PMH in front of you.
You can put the PHM on a table and seat yourself at the table so you are comfortable and have the lamp with the blue light behind you on the floor.

The blue light will help to train the eyes to perceive electromagnetic radiation outside the normal spectrum of visible light

IndianaBoys

Interesting technique, I'll see what I can do. If what you say is true, then our optic centers are receiving this continuously and our brain is simply disregarding what the eyes see.

There is actually an Historical Biblical account of this concept where the brain is blocking what the eyes can see: 2 Kings 6:15-18

However, there are limitations to the bandwidth of our eyes and we have electronic equipment with sensors that span large bands. So if the energy at those frequencies is there, the electronic equipment should get a reading as well.

I'm not any sort of biologist, but one thing we cannot over look is the possibility that frequencies and patterns are being produced that interact directly with the nerve centers in the brain completely bypassing the optic circuits. Also, another possibility is that more than one visual frequency is present causing an interaction known as the "missing fundamental" where enough information in the subharmonic ranges is present that the brain can extrapolate a fundamental frequency higher than the bandwidth of our eyes.

This has already been posted earlier, but it does emphasize that similar effects occur with our POV: YouTube - Green Dot illusion

All of my blue lights are LED's, so I will need to buy a blue lamp to try your suggestion.

Cheers,