gravity waves found

[Cloxxki]

On second look and thought, I am now considering Ed did NOT use something between the plates. The lighter lines we see may be just years worth of dust finding its way into the rusty grooves. It might have been stranger to not have these visible lines, perhaps. His plates seem to be (duh) less than medical precision manufactured.

What about "rusted together" for a magnetic lock? Is it unthinkable Ed created the lock interface in an especially salty liquid or other oxidation circumstance? One thing rust offers: a softer surface to grind on, possible with a mating rusted surface. As far as I know, rusted nails can jump on a magnet just fine?

[Groundloop]

@All,

Here is something to test:



Groundloop.

[Harvey]

Still to mention, that there was a interruptor at he Lizzy, what interrupted the Circuit once per Revolution.

On the 'Tin-Lizzy', there were 16 magnets and 16 coils (hence the nickname "Sweet Sixteen" for the Magneto. If you look carefully, you will see that each magnet has a N and S pole for a total of 32 poles, but . . . the like poles were placed next to each other as in N N - - - S S - - - N N. So this still resulted in only 16 Poles to interact with the 16 coils. This means there were 8N and 8S.

For a single revolution, that gives 8 positive cycles and 8 negative cycles but those engines were 4 cycle, 4 piston engines. So only 2 plugs would fire on any given revolution. So there must have been 2 interruptions for each revolution if it follows standard magneto capacitive ignition using points. The extra energy produced from the coils was used for the lights.

It is interesting that ED was able to use 24 of these in a larger radius to produce a uniform ring with a minimum of gaps. Notice how far they protrude beyond the teeth of the flywheel? Each Magnet must have an angle of 15° such that for any given 90° segment there are 7 magnets centerlined, or 6 inclusive for any quadrant. If the Lizzy magnets were pre-bent to 15° at the factory, this would afford about 3.75° of play on each side which would account for the gaps we see in the Model-T flywheel photos.

[Harvey]

@All,

Here is something to test:



Groundloop.

The Toroid material plays a big part in this. If it is soft material, then it will not hold the flux and the hysteresis of the material will decay the Weiss Domains away and the internal magnetism will be lost. If however it is a harder material like steel or iron that can be magnetized and hold that magnetic state after the H filed is removed, then the flux will continue for a very long time.

However, the secondary coil does not play a part in this unless it has zero resistance. This is because the induced current in the secondary coil will eventually be dissipated in the wire resistance given a sufficient period of time and opening the switch will do nothing.

Now, even though that may be the case, if the Weiss Domains remain aligned with the internal flux (which is a self inducing phenomenon) that flux will continue indefinitely provided no external H field influences it. In that case, if you were to crack the torus or create an opening in it in some way that causes that flux to change, the secondary coil will have a current induced in it that could light the lamp even after years of keeping the toroid in that state.

The short answer: I don't think your experiment above will work for low coercivity materials for any long duration of time.

Please check my earlier FEMM post to see how the magnetic flux is conducted in David's rig. This same principle applies to his ring lock demonstration.

[Groundloop]

Harvey,

>>The Toroid material plays a big part in this. If it is soft material, then it will
>>not hold the flux and the hysteresis of the material will decay the Weiss
>>Domains away and the internal magnetism will be lost.

This is correct. My Ferrite core has clamped together and still holds
together after one hour. (I use one U beam and one I beam.)



>>However, the secondary coil does not play a part in this unless it has zero
>>resistance. This is because the induced current in the secondary coil will
>>eventually be dissipated in the wire resistance given a sufficient period of
>>time and opening the switch will do nothing.

This is correct but I still get a voltage reading when I open the switch
after 3 second! This is a very long time for a Ferrite core.

>>Now, even though that may be the case, if the Weiss Domains remain
>>aligned with the internal flux (which is a self inducing phenomenon) that
>>flux will continue indefinitely provided no external H field influences it. In
>>that case, if you were to crack the torus or create an opening in it in
>>some way that causes that flux to change, the secondary coil will have a
>>current induced in it that could light the lamp even after years of keeping
>>the toroid in that state.

This is correct. If I lift off the I beam from the core then I see a voltage
in the output coil. (The switch must be open.) If I put the I beam back
again then the clamping is gone.

Alex.

[rave154]

Hi all,

im just going to throw this in here,

i cant quite remember where i saw this, wether it was from Ed himselfs book, or someones replication...... but i remember......that ed ( or the replicator ) used the iron core itself as part of the circuit....ie :-

circuit....would be.... + to coil..end of coil to iron core.....other end of iron core to (-) of battery.. ( or at least something resembling this ).

just wanted to throw this in , in case its significant

[Groundloop]

@rave154,

Was this where you saw it?

Emery Version - Leedskalnin Perpetual Motion Holder - KeelyNet 06/05/03

Alex.

[broli]

David I suggest you keep making videos of the device, if possible make one outside as well. Until someone living near you decides to confirm your findings. Then I suggest you built a replica and send your setup to one of many people on this forum who can confirm the effects and pass it alone.

If possible let it also fall in the hands of Sterling Alan who can write his own article about it on peswiki.

Also before sending it make sure to add a disclaimer to cover yourself. I would suggest a public domain disclaimer and one that entitles the experimenter responsibility.

[david lambright]

rave 154.....yes you are correct....i checked and there must be a nick in the insulation of the copper ...grounding it to the steel...you guys are so awesome...so is someone really getting the same effects as i described?

[david lambright]

hello? is any one out there?...ive documented eevry thing from the beginning...compiling files now making a new video but i need to know....is any one getting results?? before i make a video...

[Jetijs]

Hi David.
I made some experiments today. I bent all the half rings till all 24 pieces would fit on a plywood wheel of 30cm inner diameter. Then I zip tied several pieces to the board and pushed the remaining pieces between them. I taped all this together on perimeter. See it here:




I mounted it on a treadmil motor so that I can rotate it at desired RPM's and directions. After I magnetized the piece, I started the motor and when it reached about 200RPM, the tape failed and the pieces shoot apart in every direction. Anyway, at least I now had a rotating platform. Then I just ziptied 16 pieces together on perimeter and magnetized them and just put all this on the wheel. This time I used slower speeds. But no matter what I tried, I did not feel any cold or heat, I tried pointing a laser on various places, also did not feel or see anything. Tried several speeds and both directions - nothing. The pieces lock together, but not very strong, if I remove the zip tie, I have to put a slight force on the pieces to get them apart from each other, this means that there is indeed some magnetic locking happening, but not very strong. I don't know, maybe the motor below the wheel is affecting something.




I am open to suggestions.
David please do make more videos, maybe we are all missing something that your setup has but ours does not.

[rave154]

NICE work JET !!!!!!!!! see my comment..and David's comment about there having to be a nick in the insulation of the copper wire - grounding it to the iron. ( this "might" be the key )

groundloop, i skimmed the article you posted, i can remember reading it, but still cant remember where i saw about using the actual iron core as part of the electrical "circuit", might have been a video on you tube or a text article.

[Jetijs]

Rave, I tried that too but with no luck, but can you maybe draw a simple diagram how the PMH was attached to the amp meter and battery on that keelynet page? It was not clear for me.
Thanks,
Jetijs

[david lambright]

Rave, I tried that too but with no luck, but can you maybe draw a simple diagram how the PMH was attached to the amp meter and battery on that keelynet page? It was not clear for me.
Thanks,
Jetijs

jet!!!....i am not sure but...i think having a motor running underneath will disrupt the "growth"of this energy.....EMF blocks natural MF?...jet ..you are almost there...you might try ..one wire from coil to the steel-pos of battery to steel-spark other coil to neg....let me know................david....I AM IMPRESSED....GREAT WORK....could you build an "energizer" a piece of pipe split bent with a coil to energize individual segments??...making a video today!.......thanks

[david lambright]

jet...maybe try squeezing the sections a little.....less diameter??.......