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    Originally Posted by Karl_Palsness
    What is energy? Electromagnet energy is the debris left over from the destruction of Magnet Flow/Magnet Currents. That means that there must have been a Magnet Circuit operating! So that means that a greater “Magnetic Permeance” is what is important!!! Would not that be the energy we are looking for? Magnet Pressure is the amount of energy flowing through a magnet circuit. So in that case you would be able to make changing state of that circuit by using shunts to send the currents into different parts of your circuit at will. Since you don't have to pay for the magnet currents or its the Magnet Source, that would only lead to the free energy you are looking for. So Electromagnet energy is really not energy at all, but the debris of left over from the destruction of energy!!! Similar as the explosion of a fire cracker is not the energy but the result of the true energy been destroyed. You are paying to make Electromagnet energy how would you ever make a free energy machine using electromagnet energy? Electromagnet energy IS NOT magnetic current. They are totally different. Magnet potentials are not Magnet circuits aether . Think of how a transformer works. If the Magnet Current does not cut the wires of the secondary at 90 Deg's how would the secondary capture any energy? After all, all the flux in contained within the core! Therefore there is no magnet field moving past a wire or changing intensity and therefore you would get no current according to our present theory. When you understand how Magnetic currents work you will understand how a transformer works. The unloaded secondary wires stop the magnet streams just like a brick wall does a fire hose, that is why a unloaded secondary of a transformer does not draw a load from the primary, but a loaded Secondary does the opposite. The coils gates the magnet streams. The unloaded coil presents infinite voltage to the stream and therefore infinite resistance to that stream. The loaded secondary presents low resistance to the stream. So it comes down to the “maxwell”, “oersted” and the “gauss”. The next step is a free energy machine.
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post106143

    I just remember of Is a cosmic chameleon driving galaxies apart? - space - 02 August 2010 - New Scientist when I read the quote above (note the pressure term occurrence). Harvey, I think I've posted the "Electrokinesis" citation on the wrong place. You have a very acuminous vision. Thank you!
    Last edited by Freemen; 08-04-2010, 02:39 PM. Reason: Missed a link

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    • hi..

      i sent my device to bruce in texas....i have the address written somewhere...this was before he moved....if he is around, i am confused as to why he does not post?perhaps he lost the device in the move?....i hope i have not upset him?...well, at least he said that he sees the effect also, but there is so much more.....david

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      • hi jet...

        you were able to make aluminum be able to be picked up with a magnet, am i correct?..and also heated that same material to nearly its melting point, and still remained magnetic?....what is the thickest material you have done so far?...and have you tried any other metals like lead or magnesium or copper to see if you could get the same results......just a thought.....david

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        • Hi David
          I have tried it with aluminum foil and pieces from aluminum soda cans, both work fine. But the thinner the material the less weight it has and the attraction to magnets can be seen better. I have also tried the experiment with copper foil. It sure gets magnetic, but due to its weight, it a magnet can not lift it, the magnetic attraction is just too weak. I mean it is just as strong as on aluminum pieces, but the copper is simply much heavier. I can only lift one side of a small copper foil piece, but not the whole thing Have not tried other metals as I don't have them in thin sheets.
          Thanks,
          Jetijs
          It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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          • Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
            Hi David
            I have tried it with aluminum foil and pieces from aluminum soda cans, both work fine. But the thinner the material the less weight it has and the attraction to magnets can be seen better. I have also tried the experiment with copper foil. It sure gets magnetic, but due to its weight, it a magnet can not lift it, the magnetic attraction is just too weak. I mean it is just as strong as on aluminum pieces, but the copper is simply much heavier. I can only lift one side of a small copper foil piece, but not the whole thing Have not tried other metals as I don't have them in thin sheets.
            Thanks,
            Jetijs
            Thinking out loud here. . . the gap between two attracted magnets does not change the quantity of flux density samples at the surface of each magnet. Therefore, it can be expected, that as long as the flux from one enters the other, then the flux density will be relatively constant between them except for a small bulge at midpoint where the two fields cancel and the flux spreads out a bit. This would seem to imply, that a fair thickness of material can be structured this way without a loss of effect compared to a thinner piece.

            Now let us suppose we have a piece of material that is the same size as our magnetic pole faces as far as area is concerned. And now let us consider that we place that in the gap between two very strong magnets that are PMH arranged (complete loop). And finally, let us suppose that gap is 1/2 the diameter of the pole sections. So, if we have 1" pole diameters, we have a 1/2" gap with a 1/2" thick x 1" diameter copper disc pinched between and pressurized by the MMF.

            Finally, spread the magnets apart to 9/16" so the gap is 1/32" larger than the disc on each surface - an air gap so to speak.

            What will the copper disc do? The flux is the same, maybe bulged very little in the middle, but still the same. Will the attraction now be sufficient to support the weight of the copper? Because the flux remains in tact, will it act like support strands running through the material? We already know that Lenz law will tend to keep it suspended, but this is a new configuration - can it stay that way indefinitely?

            Interesting stuff.

            "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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            • hi...

              i was just checking something out on my device and noticed that on the inside, my compass points N to the segments, all the way around, but the outside seems to show N and S pole activity?...quartz crystal seems to generate the glimmer effect best...the crystal seems to absorb this energy and store it much the same way an object is heated then emits the absorbed heat....the crystal stores the energy and releases it slowly....the energy radiates from the crystal and looks like a heatwave but no heat....just the wave......david

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              • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                i was just checking something out on my device and noticed that on the inside, my compass points N to the segments, all the way around, but the outside seems to show N and S pole activity?...quartz crystal seems to generate the glimmer effect best...the crystal seems to absorb this energy and store it much the same way an object is heated then emits the absorbed heat....the crystal stores the energy and releases it slowly....the energy radiates from the crystal and looks like a heatwave but no heat....just the wave......david
                Might as well test orgonite. Some mention that crystal perform much stronger inside an orgonite. Jetijs can test this I think. Or may already tried.

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                • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                  i was just checking something out on my device and noticed that on the inside, my compass points N to the segments, all the way around, but the outside seems to show N and S pole activity?...quartz crystal seems to generate the glimmer effect best...the crystal seems to absorb this energy and store it much the same way an object is heated then emits the absorbed heat....the crystal stores the energy and releases it slowly....the energy radiates from the crystal and looks like a heatwave but no heat....just the wave......david

                  Hi David,

                  Could it be that the spindle is magnetized 'S' from when it was a motor so that the S needle points to the center? Perhaps remove it from the sander housing and see if it reacts the same

                  Each element should have a N and a S pole because this is how the lock is established - but that flux should be contained internally unless it is leaking at a loose connection somewhere.

                  Most compasses have a very small magnet situated on the N needle or the entire needle is magnetized. This could induce a permeable material to adopt a pole. But it is more likely that the elements have become magnetized themselves to a small degree and this attracts the needle. Recall how my triplet elements became magnetized? And they were different in various areas on there surfaces.
                  "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                  • Tibetan Experiment

                    May this could be of interest of this discussion Stone Levitation By Tibetan Monks

                    I think too is pertinent cite the bible passage of Jericho Battle in Joshua book Battle of Jericho - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (resonance phenomenon)

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                    • Originally posted by Freemen View Post
                      May this could be of interest of this discussion Stone Levitation By Tibetan Monks

                      I think too is pertinent cite the bible passage of Jericho Battle in Joshua book Battle of Jericho - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (resonance phenomenon)
                      Secret of levitation in India (How yogi levitates in the air).

                      GB

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                      • Originally posted by gravityblock View Post
                        Secret of levitation in India (How yogi levitates in the air).GB
                        That show levitation as chair trick. But how it can explain body weight reducing act usually performed by shaolin student.

                        You can find Jet Lee performing very high jumping ability on interview.

                        However I think this is off topic because what being discussed in this thread is how to observe effect on a device, not on people.

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                        • Antigravity

                          I thought I could mislead the discussion refering to levitating "stone", though this phenonema was reported and witnessed by people when visiting Tibete in XIX century.


                          However, you could find interesting gravitational effects in John Hutchison Lab seeing this video
                          YouTube - ‪Tesla The Race to Zero Point Free Energy‬‎

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                          • hi everyone...

                            freemen...thanks for all your insight!...anyway, while watching the hutchinson video, i noticed that there were the same type of distortions that i describe seeing around my device...i know some people will say it is a product of the camera etc., but i know what i see and it looks the same...i also believe that if someone were to talk with john, he would describe the same type of glimmer or heat type waves present during some of his videos...i have seen it in other videos as well, not just hutchinsons stuff...i will try and mark the time and where in the videos i am seeing these distortions.....david

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                            • David, before you celebrate your 50's page I could have sworn that the first post of this thread was made yesterday. There doesn't seem to be made any progress. Just my honest observation.

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                              • David has provided a topic that has been an education in many areas that I had not traveled and in some regards could be compared to no longer sailing around a flat planet. So David, continue sailing the ship in the direction you choose as I am sure many look forward to this thread and the new land to be discovered.

                                Indianaboys
                                YouTube - ‪Talk Like a Pirate Day: The Five A's‬‎

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