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  • Originally posted by rave154 View Post
    hi all,

    getting pretty exciting what with someone about to visit David and also the rep's going on

    David, i just re-watched your video where at the start you show your circular steel hoops being energised & locked...and a thought occured to me.

    assuming that the iron hoop does NOT show the anomalous effects, where-as the leedskalnin-shaped rig DOES..the difference between them as you said..is the shape.... heres my thought...

    picture yourself, driving along in a car, youve got 2 bags of shopping on the back seat loaded with apples & oranges... your driving around a nice, constant, smoothly bending road at a constant speed in a circle...what happens to the apples & oranges?........nothing much...
    now... picture yourself driving the same car....still in a circle..but this time not in a nice constant smoothly bending circle....but having to duck & dodge left and right continually as you go around the circle..... what happens to the apples & oranges now?....they get flung out the windows both on the left and the right.....if you had a never ending supply of apples & oranges..and the car continued to go around the zig-zag circle like i described above....and you viewed it from a distance.....you would see....what?........a continual ejection both outwards & inwards....of apples & oranges.

    the car of course in this analogy...is the continually circulating flux in the leedskalnin rig...the apples & oranges......would be the...."whatever it is"....thats being ejected from the rig as the flux has navigate & change directions to go around all the broken hoops that make up the circle.

    Hope this makes sense & helps.
    Rave, I hear you.
    In David's and Ed's devices, the outer "corners" are the tightest. seems it would be relatively easy to design a Leedkalnin star which would exagerbate such imbalance between left hand and right hand corner tightness. The radial width of such a 24-very ponty star I now visualize, might be of impartance as well. I believe Ed's device has a LONG magnetic contact along the legs of the V's? But what what if the contact point is actually quite specific, near the inside or the outside of the touching legs?

    If Jetijs is reading this, he might want to order an "own design" laser cut plate as well, taking the spefic geoemtry further still than the Ford T magnet arrangement. A smart design could be prepared to test various geometry parameters.

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    • @Rave154,

      Well Said

      If you look back at the flux path in my FEMM simulation you will see that the flux follows a relatively smooth path along the inner radii of the elements, but must make a very abrupt U-Turn at each connection point.

      This fact that the flux shorts across to the next element at a midpoint in the material makes me wonder what types of eddies are produced in those extended areas where no flux is flowing. Those non-flux areas may be important for emitting the energy - who knows

      If we run the flux all the way to the ends, then it must travel a longer path and their will need to be more of it to complete the path.

      One thing we don't know, is if Ed had like poles touching as they did on the Model T. Judging from the filler in the gaps, it would seem that the outer ends are separated some and the touching is going on some other way. But who knows, maybe that powder is very permeable and the flux flows through it with ease

      Love those Apples and Oranges, but I think we need to throw some blueberries in there too (Did I see Red and Blue shift in the UV pics?)

      "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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      • 45th parallel....half way between equator and north pole?....or is it something else?.........david

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        • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
          45th parallel....half way between equator and north pole?....or is it something else?.........david
          45° 00' 00" N 123° 00' 00" W

          I'll bet you think that big white thing there is a water tank

          Well, maybe it is


          Cheers!

          "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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          • Comparing Leedskalnin's location to David's with Bruce Cathie's software.

            Originally posted by david lambright View Post
            45th parallel....half way between equator and north pole?....or is it something else?.........david

            What comes to mind is Bruce Cathie. Maybe someone has Bruce Cathie's software and can compare Leedskalnin's location to David's. They could also locate a suitable place for JetiJs as well.

            The software may assist in dialing in to variable(s) that locate the light code to turn this device on at various locations.

            Introduction to the World Grid | Bruce Cathie Maps the World Grid with Gridpoint Atlas

            The research is ongoing and now, many years later, a computer program has been produced which carries out all the required calculations related to the light, gravity and earth magnetic field values. It has been found that many ancient building sites such as Stonehenge, the Great Pyramid, etc., show relationships with this unified harmonic mathematical system and indicates that the knowledge is not new. The civilizations at these times must have had scientific knowledge of a highly advanced nature.

            We are now in the process of relearning this lost science. If the discovered harmonic unified equations can eventually be accepted by the scientific community as correct, then we may be on the threshold of true space travel which has no barriers. The equations show that light speed is not a constant and that time itself is a variable. Under these conditions there is no place out there in space that we cannot reach. Obviously, there is more mathematical knowledge to be discovered, but it appears that the code has been broken. Soon, with a bit of luck, we on Earth may have the chance to join our neighbors out there in the vast blackness of space.

            Best regards,

            IndianaBoys
            Last edited by IndianaBoys; 05-19-2010, 05:40 PM.

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            • more info...

              when energized, my single junction pmh[pmh-1] shows very little magnetism but try tying a gold,copper or aluminum ring to a string, spin it and hold it near the pmh...any thing noticeable??.. Ed style pmh-2, u shape with a bar on top=2 junctions does show these effects...Tesla said experiment not equation[paraphrasing] i believe this to be true.....i am taking the day off..my uncle is coming back [OHSU] today , billy still in idaho ....i must start the step by step video.....hopefully doing that will keep my mind off of things.......and to solrey...i had no right i am truly sorry...for what i said on thunder bolts...i have had a lot on my mind...besides this.....forgive?.....david

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              • Originally posted by Bruce_TPU View Post
                < snip

                I do think the diameter of the unit as a whole is important. Don't ask me why.

                Also, please notice there is "nothing" under his bent pipes. No alum, or plastic or anything else. But it is screwed into his HDPE rotor.

                Cool stuff! Where will it lead? Time will tell. Oh, if some members go to see his, he will record their visit and reaction to the unit for us, in HD.

                Cheers,

                Bruce
                I think that having the pipes open on both ends as you've stated above, that is nothing under the pipes may be important. It appears most of the replica builds so far have had something under the pipes. Just a thought as that seems to be one of the more noticeable differences between david's and the rest. Note that on Leedskalnin's generator it also had nothing above or below the outside ends.
                There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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                • oh you indiana boys!....you guys are good!.. I AGREE! this type of energy/technology had to have been harnessed before..for some this idea is tough to grasp but it FITS the new model...lets just say IF what i say is true...you all will be "filling in the blanks" on the new and improved physics modeling..... infinitly interesting!.....david

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                  • Originally posted by ewizard View Post
                    I think that having the pipes open on both ends as you've stated above, that is nothing under the pipes may be important. It appears most of the replica builds so far have had something under the pipes. Just a thought as that seems to be one of the more noticeable differences between david's and the rest. Note that on Leedskalnin's generator it also had nothing above or below the outside ends.
                    I don't know about that. I just took the pieces off the acrylic disc and put a small plastic bucket on the rotating surface. Then I put the bent pieces around that bucket so that nothing is over or under them at least 50mm, I rotated the setup and no changes.
                    It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                    • I compressed the pieces a bit tighter in a vice and assembled them together again. This decreased the inner diameter to about 110mm. But still no effects at all. I even tried to run the device on some local energetic points, also no luck I guess I will have to wait for the laser cut rings, so far I am out of ideas.
                      It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                      • Wow, you are really pulling out all the stops Jetijs! The only thing remaining seems to be Dave's Craftsman model#315.277140 sander base?

                        Cheers,

                        s.

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                        • Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
                          I compressed the pieces a bit tighter in a vice and assembled them together again. This decreased the inner diameter to about 110mm. But still no effects at all. I even tried to run the device on some local energetic points, also no luck I guess I will have to wait for the laser cut rings, so far I am out of ideas.
                          Jet - Your work is amazing. But just a point. If you look at the position of your 'lock' if one can call it that - then the amount of mass in the 'closed' circumference is not equal to the amount of mass in the open 'legs'. If you look at the proportions in Dave's set up - you'll see that the mass in the legs and that 'closed circumference' are just about proportionate. I wonder if this proportionality is required for the effect. No idea though. Just a thought. I'm still inclined to see two entirely opposing fields or 'monopoles' in each section on either side of that lock - and I think that this may have been what Leedskalnin intended in his own design. In which case it may be required to separate each piece in the steel cut out that you're intending. Otherwise I see a kind of 'resolution' or a balancing out of the two opposing fields in the base of the leg and this may mitigate against the effect. Just a thought. In any event you'll be able to try both options, presumably.

                          What blows me away is that there is any 'lock' at all. Magnetic fields don't just 'dissipate' into thin air. There must be a balancing field extending all the way through the length of those pieces. And they can't just 'alter' their justification. I sort of remember being told that a magnetic field will simply 'disappear' inside a hollowed cylinder. I think this design puts paid to that 'belief'. I'm inclined to suggest that perhaps we can't measure the field inside a cylinder because it becomes too 'balanced' to detect it at all. If you think about it - by the time a field is established all the way around that rig one half diametrically opposes the other half. That's perfect symmetry. This design simply introduces an imbalance through those legs. Which also means that the pure cylinder design proposed by cody may also be a monopole and may also give a good effect. Perhaps it just needs a stronger magnetic field to expose it.

                          Anyway. There's way more questions here than answers - which is always a good thing. And I just wanted to suggest that perhaps you need to look to those proportions - unless I'm reading the photos incorrectly - which is a real probability given my poor eyesight. LOL.

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                          • Originally posted by IndianaBoys View Post
                            What comes to mind is Bruce Cathie. Maybe someone has Bruce Cathie's software and can compare Leedskalnin's location to David's. They could also locate a suitable place for JetiJs as well.

                            The software may assist in dialing in to variable(s) that locate the light code to turn this device on at various locations.

                            Introduction to the World Grid | Bruce Cathie Maps the World Grid with Gridpoint Atlas

                            The research is ongoing and now, many years later, a computer program has been produced which carries out all the required calculations related to the light, gravity and earth magnetic field values. It has been found that many ancient building sites such as Stonehenge, the Great Pyramid, etc., show relationships with this unified harmonic mathematical system and indicates that the knowledge is not new. The civilizations at these times must have had scientific knowledge of a highly advanced nature.

                            We are now in the process of relearning this lost science. If the discovered harmonic unified equations can eventually be accepted by the scientific community as correct, then we may be on the threshold of true space travel which has no barriers. The equations show that light speed is not a constant and that time itself is a variable. Under these conditions there is no place out there in space that we cannot reach. Obviously, there is more mathematical knowledge to be discovered, but it appears that the code has been broken. Soon, with a bit of luck, we on Earth may have the chance to join our neighbors out there in the vast blackness of space.

                            Best regards,

                            IndianaBoys
                            I would have to agree that there is some geographical connection between many world sites. Glen Lettenmaier has done a great deal of research and documentation on this in his Tesla Wireless thread here at EF. His findings are quite thought provoking. He has discovered a mathematical relationship between these sites and the current world coordinate system.

                            There is a reason that the Egyptians used the Sexagesimal numbering system which has found its way into our clocks and circular mathematics even today. A Radian is 180/pi and our global coordinates are divided into two axial 180° sections, E & W and two radial 180° sections, N & S. 360° / 60 is 6 and 6 is exactly 1/10 of 60.

                            The Prime Meridian currently runs right through France, but it was originally 2°20′14.025″ to the East of where it is now. (See Paris Meridian
                            and Prime Meridian History).

                            The meter as we know it today is also different from that originally calculated by the french to be 1/10,000,000 of the distance from the equator to the North Pole (see Metre - Meridonal Definition ) which was off by 1/2 mm because of miscalculations regarding the flattening of the Geoid we call Earth.

                            It would appear that Glen has discovered a mathematical factor that relates our current coordinate system to that of the ancients where the current degrees minutes and seconds align with ancient structures in a predictable way.

                            According to Glen's calculations, David is within 3 miles of such a site.

                            Personally, I am very fascinated by all of these developments and look forward to having everything revealed - but as always, with knowledge comes responsibility and I am pondering if mankind is responsible enough to acquire and utilize this knowledge at a time where almost all new technology is applied to war and the purpose of harming other humans.

                            I sincerely hope that the developments are weighted such that the outcome is overbalanced toward the greater good.



                            Last edited by Harvey; 05-19-2010, 11:06 PM. Reason: my by
                            "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                            • David,

                              to decide wether or not, your "sander-base" is having any effect, could you remove the rig from the sander ( without dissassembling the rig itself )....and see if the effect is still there.....no need to make a video of it...just test it and see. Then we will know if the sander is responsible in anyway for the effect/s

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                              • Originally posted by rave154 View Post
                                David,

                                to decide wether or not, your "sander-base" is having any effect, could you remove the rig from the sander ( without dissassembling the rig itself )....and see if the effect is still there.....no need to make a video of it...just test it and see. Then we will know if the sander is responsible in anyway for the effect/s
                                Great Suggestion!

                                He has already removed the securing screw and shown that is still works when reassembled, but he did not say whether it worked when separated.

                                I assume the effect is still there even when it is not turning from his earlier posts.

                                "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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