gravity waves found

[witsend]

What?

The moon is made of cheese too.

LOL Not sure what this is about. You're either on the wrong thread or the wrong forum. I think Dave's proposing that whatever makes this 'wave' may also be the same stuff as the aether fields that some of us ascribe to. But I've no idea what you're proposing as an alternative explanation. And I simply don't see the relevance to the moon in any context at all - whether it's made of cheese or star dust or solid light waves. Perhaps you can try and give us an argument - one way or another.

[Bruce_TPU]

My aluminum foil straight off the role stuck to a magnet. Im sure aluminum probably contains a small percent of iron from the mining or the recycling process. Those small amounts should be able to retain residual magnetism just like other ferrous materials if subjected to the right conditions. That might be an explanation for the effect you have with the foil.

I have Reynolds Wrap here at the house, and placed an N52 1"x1" magnet on it, and I guarentee there is nothing magnetic about it. You probably have tin in your foil. Thus, "tin foil" rather than "aluminum foil".

Cheers,

Bruce

[witsend]

Am I wrong to conculde that if there would be a warm spot without a cold spot, we'd have big fat over unity? In my simple reasoning, a cold outer and warm inner effect, might somehow be cancelling out. Just like magnets do. Pull on one end, push on the other. Compression, expansion.Without the balance, or being able to tap that thermal effect without breaking the magentic lock, we have something even harder to explain on our hands.

Hi Cloxxki, Not sure of the answer here. But I'd have thought that hot or cold - both would need to be quantified and both would need to be deducted from the input power resulting in required reduction of power from that source. Effectively therefore the 'lock' should weaken. But I'm not sure that we know what's causing the heat. It may be from light that is somehow concentrated into certain specific spots - or it may, indeed, be from an interaction of the magnetic fields in the rig on localised areas around it inducing a kind of current flow of sorts? I would have thought that both, technically, should result in some weakening of that structure, at its least. IMHO it all needs more tests.

[Jetijs]

Hi all.
Today I was at the negative flux line that Glen pointed out to me and tested the device there. No change whatsoever

[witsend]

thanks Jet. At least we now know that the phenomenon is not locality dependant.

[john_g]

Hi all.
Today I was at the negative flux line that Glen pointed out to me and tested the device there. No change whatsoever

Jetijs

Out of interest have you tried the magnet experiment, where a cylindrical magnet is held against a CRT and rotated, showing the B field is fixed (somewhere). If so did you feel anything through the magnet? I ask as I have done the test and I can feel a high frequency vibration from the magnet whereas a friend cannot. So I wonder if there is any mileage in the idea that some people are more sensitive than others to certain effects.

I have just redone (as you do!) the B field test again. With the CRT in the normal position, sitting on its feet, there are two concentric fields, one above the magnet and one below. Turn the CRT onto its side the fields are now one each side of the magnet. Not sure what to conclude from that though.
Regards


John

[witsend]

Jetijs

Out of interest have you tried the magnet experiment, where a cylindrical magnet is held against a CRT and rotated, showing the B field is fixed (somewhere). If so did you feel anything through the magnet? I ask as I have done the test and I can feel a high frequency vibration from the magnet whereas a friend cannot. So I wonder if there is any mileage in the idea that some people are more sensitive than others to certain effects.

Regards

John

John I know exactly what you're saying here. We used a variac in some of our experiments for a while and I could literally feel the pressure of a force against my temples when this was running. No-one else could. It seems to be a kind of rarified sensibility. Like some people can pick up flavours in food that others can't. Very strange.

[Cloxxki]

Hi Cloxxki, Not sure of the answer here. But I'd have thought that hot or cold - both would need to be quantified and both would need to be deducted from the input power resulting in required reduction of power from that source. Effectively therefore the 'lock' should weaken. But I'm not sure that we know what's causing the heat. It may be from light that is somehow concentrated into certain specific spots - or it may, indeed, be from an interaction of the magnetic fields in the rig on localised areas around it inducing a kind of current flow of sorts? I would have thought that both, technically, should result in some weakening of that structure, at its least. IMHO it all needs more tests.

Thanks for responding.
Another analogy would be that of a lense. It's a light wave form causing the effect, according to David after all.
If the magnetically locked rig were to act as a lense, indeed creating the double cone shaped in-out field, the localized heat MIGHT be just be part of a continious and balanced compression/decompression, running at neutral in/output energy.
The theories I've read such as Marko Rodin's, tend to refer to a toroid as a soirt of gateway, Compression into its hole, decompression out. By aprocimation, David's rig is a kind of toroid. Currents and forced seem to always have 90 degrees across is a similar effect. Lenz, radient, etc. With a toroid, this would exhibit as thrust.

Another thing, human senses may interpret the effect as heat, when in fact it's something else, or a different kind of vibration than usually associated with it.

[Cloxxki]

John I know exactly what you're saying here. We used a variac in some of our experiments for a while and I could literally feel the pressure of a force against my temples when this was running. No-one else could. It seems to be a kind of rarified sensibility. Like some people can pick up flavours in food that others can't. Very strange.

When people hd such difference experiences, I wonder if we should not regard our bodies themselves as measuring devices themselves. One person is grounded better, in part due to usually differing foot wear and skin moisture. I noticed David at times goes barefoot (I am a barefoot fan myself since recently). If another experimenter is to wear Nike Air Max, I am not surprised that differences are found.

[FuzzyTomCat]

Hi David,

Here is a "Google Earth" image showing the 6679.19 Km radius from W77 30' 00" at the Equator. The red line represents the proposed "negative" flux line that is near your location which I estimate about 3 miles from you. I know the past several days that atmospheric conditions in Oregon has been really bad and this may have some bearing on the effects and performance of your device.

I would recommend that if you have the time to get as close as possible to the area that the red line or "negative" flux line goes, and see if your effects and performance gets better. You may also try to document it with a camera that actually uses film with a ASA 200 or a old VHS camcorder that uses a tape and not anything digital. There is some problems with digital cameras such as "smoke" or "fire" some objects just doesn't look correctly even photographing of "Aura's" if done properly is done with film also.



Regards,
Glen

[david lambright]

hi every one

sorry about the delay i am still having computer issues..jet and cody....did either of you have permanent magnets near your parts before or during assembly? i saw a pic of segments sitting on what looks like a ceramic magnet? any way i have to finish a couple of small jobs and after that i am dedicating all of my time and energy to this project....i will set up a demo at the keizer park ...when the weather is a little better .this is so important. if nothing else to explore further.at least 30 people have witnessed and seen this "heat" type wave for themselves...i urge anyone who is going to be there to bring cameras, video and still, digital and film to help capture this ...i know that Ed captured this in some BW photos he left there ..bruce knows which ones.. i wish someone had pics with better resolution check them out for yourselves at Leedskalnin.com...hi matt..talking to a friend today at 11:00...maybe slower film speed with a shutter will help..a question..do digital cameras "correct" the image? we WILL figure this out ...and anyone who knows about Ed, knows we are on the right track......david

[david lambright]

i shrink

you guys,...i do not know what to say. your brilliance on this matter makes me feel so small...we will find the answers we seek, i don`t know how to say thanks and have it mean all of what i feel.......david

[david lambright]

Flir

i have a friend who knows afire chief here in salem....she is inquiring about someone bringing a FLIR camera to keizer

[remelic]

From another forum where david is also presenting his idea.

The distortion in this image, is an artifact of it having been taken with a digital camera.

In most modern CMOS image sensors, the rows of the image are not all exposed synchronously. Rather these sensors have an "electronic rolling shutter" architecture, in which the rows are exposed sequentially from top to bottom (or bottom to top) as the image is read out from the sensor. This is a bit of an oversimplification, but nevertheless the effect is similar to what would happen if you exposed a piece of old-fashioned photographic film by sliding a horizontal slit from the top of the frame to the bottom.

In your picture:

The wheel segments at the top of the image, are moving from left to right, as rows are being exposed from top to bottom. The effect is that the segments appear to be skewed leaning to the left;
The segments at the bottom are moving from right to left, and so appear skewed in the opposite direction;
The segments on the right are moving downwards, as rows are being sequentially exposed one after another from top to bottom, so these segments appear elongated vertically;
Correspondingly, the segments on the left are moving upwards while being scanned from top to bottom, and appear shortened vertically.

(remelic, this is easier to see, if you click on the thumbnail to view the full-sized original image.)

I think If you took a video of any other rotating object with this camera, you'd see the same effects.

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Be careful of these claims. If you cannot see the effect with you eyes or feel it with your hands then it isn't happening.

[david lambright]

jetijs

just a thought...if there is any unwanted magnetic frequency perhaps "grounding" the device then charging might help...i still have a section of the original pipe, i only need a little over 24" for #2...i could mail you enough of it to replicate if you think that might help.........david