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  • Hi NorthWind
    Longer pipes IMHO wont do very well, because even at this length I can see some very small gaps between some of the segments, between some segments the hap is at the middle and between other at the ends. Longer pipes will do the same. I think that this is because of lack of sanding perfection or deformations of the pipe segment due compressing. Anyway, I intend to get some very big diameter clamps (I don't know the correct term) like this:


    and use them to compress the pieces together very very tightly, I am sure this will make the contact much better and there wont be any gaps anymore. This will sure compress the pieces together better than the zip ties I am using now. I will use these to compress the pieces tightly and then use ordinary zip ties or some other method to fix the pieces in this condition permanently and remove the metal clamp so that it wont interfere with the operation of the device
    It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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    • Originally posted by Jetijs View Post

      Hello Jet. I wonder if you perhaps need some kind of insulation between your rig and the metal on your rotar wheel. I think Dave uses something? Is it a wooden platform or what? The other thing is that your winding is on two positions. I thought Dave just used the one. Could that second winding somehow negates the effect?

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      • this may help or confuse YouTube - The Secret of the Universe 1 of 6
        there are six parts, about an hour total

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        • hello!

          jet, are you using insulation between your coil and your segment?..if so take it off and rewind the coil and check with a meter to be sure the coil is grounded ... i will make a video with more detail if you want me to...the hose clamps will work but i would insulate where it touches the ring...witsend is right about that...that is why i used zip ties versus hose clamps to keep the segments isolated....also why i used hdpe for the disc...i bet wood would work also..ive got to post some vids....more soon....david

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          • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
            jet, are you using insulation between your coil and your segment?..if so take it off and rewind the coil and check with a meter to be sure the coil is grounded ... i will make a video with more detail if you want me to...the hose clamps will work but i would insulate where it touches the ring...witsend is right about that...that is why i used zip ties versus hose clamps to keep the segments isolated....also why i used hdpe for the disc...i bet wood would work also..ive got to post some vids....more soon....david
            Dave. I'm also doing experiments here. Help me out. Must there be metal on metal contact between the rig and the rotar? I thought that was insulated?

            edited. By the way - can we use two points to magnetise? And I think Jet already stated that he's taking off the hose clips when he's bonded the sections.
            Last edited by witsend; 06-14-2010, 07:30 AM.

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            • hi...

              here are the links to the last 2 vids...let me know what what you think..watch the shadow at the top edge of my device... you should see different colors in the shadow...i see it...david....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRYZLEvwaaE....and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDLNDlMUKog...thanks
              Last edited by david lambright; 06-14-2010, 09:38 AM.

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              • wit

                Originally posted by witsend View Post
                Dave. I'm also doing experiments here. Help me out. Must there be metal on metal contact between the rig and the rotar? I thought that was insulated?

                edited. By the way - can we use two points to magnetise? And I think Jet already stated that he's taking off the hose clips when he's bonded the sections.
                insulated yes..as far as the 2 coils...i use only 1...after you get a feel for whats going on, you might try 2, but for now use 1 coil....remember the magnetic lock i refer to is not strong like a permanent magnet...as long as you can get good continuity through the segments[insulate between 1 junction and check with a meter] you should get a lock...Eds PMH is a metal circuit for this energy to "orbit" in ....i will make another video with more attention to detail right now....should post within the hour...check out the last 2 vids....david

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                • video

                  this video goes into more detail, i hope this clarifies my method...thanks...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxDytCg2DcM

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                  • Hi all
                    Just to clarify, the clamps will go off after the rig is compressed tightly and secured in that position. The segments don't touch any metal on the rotating platform, there is a 8mm circular plexiglass sheet between the segments and the fan. All the cores, magnets and copper wire is removed from the fan. The fan rotor is made out of a hollow cylindrical steel segment (about 1mm thick) that is closed on the top side, the blades are plastic and are attached ti that cylinder. There is a 5mm diameter steel shaft in the center of the fan and it goes through two bearings that are fixed in aluminum housing. All the frame and other stuff is made out of aluminum. Two coils on the segment array are only as an option, this way I can see if it works with one coil and if not, I can try two. As far as I know I have connected the coils in parallel correctly so they shouldn't cancel each other out.
                    I will try compressing the parts together tightly today and if this wont work well, I will fix the segments on my previous plywood rotating platform with a motor beneath and see what happens at higher RPM's. Our sensitives say that the current setup with Davids segments seem to almost get to the effect at higher RPM's, the most that we can spin it by hand, but that is just a little too short for the effect to manifest. We are a little below the minimum threshold
                    Will keep you updated
                    Thanks!


                    It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                    • As far as 2 coils go.... Didn't Leedskalnin say the proper way to do it is with 2 segments, oppositely wound, joined in the middle....negative in the middle and positive on either end?

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                      • HI Jet,
                        Do you have enough shaft exposed to wrap a string ( fishing line or light cord ) like a gyroscope? This may allow the higher RPM's needed to show the effect.
                        best of luck to all, Gene

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                        • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                          here are the links to the last 2 vids...let me know what what you think..watch the shadow at the top edge of my device... you should see different colors in the shadow...i see it...david....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRYZLEvwaaE....and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDLNDlMUKog...thanks
                          David,

                          After loading the videos up to YouTube, do you still see the effect after watching them on YouTube? If so, point out the time you begin to see it.

                          Thanks,

                          IndianaBoys

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                          • good morning

                            my only plan for today is to mail a package to bruce...other than that, i will be here...did the details video help at all?...david

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                            • hey

                              Originally posted by IndianaBoys View Post
                              David,

                              After loading the videos up to YouTube, do you still see the effect after watching them on YouTube? If so, point out the time you begin to see it.

                              Thanks,

                              IndianaBoys
                              i annotated the videos...it is still hard to see if you dont know what to look for...this energy is visible ...it does not disturb the air, that is why the schlieren method did not work very well...the gas is visible because the air is disturbed...the sunlight worked good for a first time effort... i will try this again today...david

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                              • I saw it! Better than in your very first video's.
                                At first I believed because I (want to) believe people, now I believe because I saw what I think you saw. It's quite beautiful. I'd rather call it streams than waves as I saw it on the video though.
                                It seems to manifest itself in the shades of black. Perhaps a camera known to have great dark color depth could be used to uncover this even better.

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