gravity waves found

[Jetijs]

Cloxxki, the whole purpose for this onepiece setup is that it has no gaps and thus almost no resistance for the magnetic flux flow. Channeling info suggests that the better and bigger the contact area is, the stronger the effect will be. So this will prove if this is indeed true.

Harvey, this is some regular steel, not mild steel, it wont retain much magnetism, so it might be that precharging the V shapes using a custom PMH wont give a desired effect. So I thought that maybe adding little neo magnets between each V shape would do the same, like in the attachment. The flux will rather travel through the magnets than through the steel ark closer to the center. This way I can get the magnetic poles on the V shapes just like Ed has on his generator. Also I have seen that magnetized PMH flux also likes to travel through magnets, you can put a magnet close to a magnetized PMH and then break the lock by pulling one side of the steel bar off the U shape and sending flux through the magnet, then you can put the steel bar on its previous position and remove the magnet and the lock will still be there

[Adie123]

@Jetijs - do you have a copy of ed leedskalnin's manual of magnetic current?

if not heres a link to pdf format copy


Also just wanted to remind/mention the polarity that leedskalnin had on his flywheel. Pic below.



p.s. great work btw

regards
Adie

[david lambright]

jet!

Cloxxki, the whole purpose for this onepiece setup is that it has no gaps and thus almost no resistance for the magnetic flux flow. Channeling info suggests that the better and bigger the contact area is, the stronger the effect will be. So this will prove if this is indeed true.

Harvey, this is some regular steel, not mild steel, it wont retain much magnetism, so it might be that precharging the V shapes using a custom PMH wont give a desired effect. So I thought that maybe adding little neo magnets between each V shape would do the same, like in the attachment. The flux will rather travel through the magnets than through the steel ark closer to the center. This way I can get the magnetic poles on the V shapes just like Ed has on his generator. Also I have seen that magnetized PMH flux also likes to travel through magnets, you can put a magnet close to a magnetized PMH and then break the lock by pulling one side of the steel bar off the U shape and sending flux through the magnet, then you can put the steel bar on its previous position and remove the magnet and the lock will still be there

hi jet...great work on your laser cut pieces....1 question..have you tried the single junction ring PMH yet?..steel rod 15mm bent into a 35cm diameter circle with a gap of 3mm at the junction, 40 to 50 turns of .025 insulated transformer wire wound 40mm from the junction...a spark from a 9 volt battery will lock the ring and close the gap..... are you planning to have a gap in your new design, if so, you should get it to lock with one coil, close to the gap....just a thought...any way sorry for my absence...have been working...and i see every body has been busy also!....thanks every one for getting this rolling!...i am home today, so i will try to go back and answer some questions.... sorry for not answering some of your questions before...i felt that they would be better answered by other replicators...that way, when we get the same results the answer will clearer.....david

[witsend]

Still not quite satisfied that this is what's intended. Apologies as I realise this is off topic. But just out of interest. This 'collection' or 'gathering of the circles' is not actually purely symmetrical here. One needs to retain the circular line of inner sphere. Imagine a 'tie wrap' or 'cling foil' on each new circle. One would lose the 'six sidedness' but still hold that strong linear arrangement on some of those arms. The 'doubling' of each new layer of circles would still hold. Possibly. And I wonder if one could not then derive the circumference measure of each circle - from this alignment. I'll see if I can get more of those 'cuts' so that I can test in on something measurable. It's very teasing.

Again - apologies - I thought I was posting - In fact I was editing. Anyway - from memory the previous stated gratitude for the graphics. Some discussion on the introduction of a charge attribute and attention drawn to the strong linear arragement of the 'east/west' alignment - so to speak. I'd like to blame my eyes - but this deletion was just carelessness.

[witsend]

hi jet...great work on your laser cut pieces....1 question..have you tried the single junction ring PMH yet?..steel rod 15mm bent into a 35cm diameter circle with a gap of 3mm at the junction, 40 to 50 turns of .025 insulated transformer wire wound 40mm from the junction...a spark from a 9 volt battery will lock the ring and close the gap..... are you planning to have a gap in your new design, if so, you should get it to lock with one coil, close to the gap....just a thought...any way sorry for my absence...have been working...and i see every body has been busy also!....thanks every one for getting this rolling!...i am home today, so i will try to go back and answer some questions.... sorry for not answering some of your questions before...i felt that they would be better answered by other replicators...that way, when we get the same results the answer will clearer.....david

Nice to see you back here Dave. : We're still sort of looking for some comment update from Bruce. Has he settled yet?

[witsend]

Also just wanted to remind/mention the polarity that leedskalnin had on his flywheel. Pic below.



p.s. great work btw

regards
Adie

As ever Jet - blown away by the expertise. And Adie, I'm not sure that I agree with this polarity distribution. As a solid piece of material I would have thought that the only way to introduce these variations would be to also introduce variable windings at each of those curved junctions. I'll be very interested to see what Jet does here.

EDIT. Apologies. It seems your proposed alignment is right Adie - as per Jet's thumbnails.

[Harvey]

Great stuff Harvey!

Are you able to explain the (apparentlycounted to be) 4 poles in the 24-section PMH, when your design here offers anything but 90 degree angles?

Ed's 4-clover layer I believe should be vital towards understanding what he did, and how to take it to his level of operation. I could speculate to the point of some special constant overbalance, but would not be able to even argument it.

@Jetijs, I can't wait to learn of your progress! :-)
Seems you'll be energizing it without segmenting it? I wonder if that will affect performance in any way. Good luck with your work on this!

Hi Cloxxki,

I can't take credit for this geometry, the credit goes to a much higher source than this planet. Our Honey Bees have used this geometry from the time they were created until now, so it is well known throughout history.

I agree that it could be problematic when trying to apply it to Leedskalnin's work because there is no 90° relationship. But is is a very robust arrangement and finds its way into molecular chemistry and many man-made macro structures. From a magnetic perspective, it provides an odd 'choice' for the flux to follow depending on the total length of the path. So it is an interesting thing to fantasize about - you never know where our thoughts might take us.

Regarding the different poles in the various replications, I think that is indicative of some problem for the flux path where some grouped segments exhibit a different density. Perhaps the material is more or less permeable. If we look at the 'PMH Lock' of Dave's rig, we see that each element becomes a single magnet such that there is really 24 distinct dipoles all connected N to S in series. Some of the flux from these poles may be leaking and affecting the compass readings. The compass needle should actually follow the path of the flux but since most is contained in the material, the little that escapes from a good lock is probably not much stronger than the Earth's field and the result will be some vector of the two.

[sucahyo]

Hello sucahyo. I can't understand this post in connection with your quote.

Same negative electrode behave differently depend on surface. Pointy surface reject fire, big mass pull fire.


I think it is not electromagnetic effect though, only the electric since fire is avoiding tips in perpendicular direction. No rotating observed when I put the tip inside the fire, presumably no magnetic. Also because magnetic depend on current, and nature usually produce voltage potential without current. The sure things is, current do not make ionic wind, voltage is.

I think the ash is not the came from the fire, what not converted to fire become ash.


I also wish to correct my previous thinking. TT Brown mention that static DC will only produce dampened acceleration. To produce constant acceleration we need pulsed DC. And my circuit do produce pulsed HV DC.

If earth gravity is the same as ion wind, then to enable constant gravity the earth must produce pulsed DC. Earth electric potential is not static. It is constantly generated. It is not accumulated. Earth is not a capacitor, it is a voltage generator.



BTW, I think any attempt to capture the "light" using any type of video camera or light source is useless. Because I don't think it is compatible. It is just like an attempt to see what move the candle fire, I don't see anything come out from my HV negative even if it strong enough to move the wire:
YouTube - An attemp to capture ion wind


@Jetijs, I am interested if it can be made from single steel. Interested if it can be miniaturized too, I made this from transformer soft iron:

[witsend]

circles within circles - quintessentially a circular argument.

It seems that only I can understand myself. I'll get to the circles within circles in due course. Nice to see that edited versions are also being closely watched. LOL. But patently the gist of what I'm trying to communicate is entirely lost.

[witsend]

Same negative electrode behave differently depend on surface. Pointy surface reject fire, big mass pull fire.


I think it is not electromagnetic effect though, only the electric since fire is avoiding tips in perpendicular direction. No rotating observed when I put the tip inside the fire, presumably no magnetic. Also because magnetic depend on current, and nature usually produce voltage potential without current. The sure things is, current do not make ionic wind, voltage is.

LOL Sucahyo. I simply couldn't understand any of the this. Way beyond me.

I think the ash is not the came from the fire, what not converted to fire become ash.

My point exactly. Ash relates to the carbon atoms that comprised the earlier bound material - prior to burning. ? Is that what you also mean?

If earth gravity is the same as ion wind, then to enable constant gravity the earth must produce pulsed DC. Earth electric potential is not static. It is constantly generated. It is not accumulated. Earth is not a capacitor, it is a voltage generator.

More that I don't understand. I don't propose that gravity is a constant ion wind. Unless what you're pointing out that you did but no longer do. The subject actually never came up. What I propose is that 'flame' or 'fire' may be a form of elementary plasma. But only because you're tests seem to point there. But I'm certainly not married to the idea. I have my own ideas as to what causes flame. And it certainly isn't traditional. Nor is it a plasma.

BTW, I think any attempt to capture the "light" using any type of video camera or light source is useless.

Really? Strange that you hold this opinion in the face of evidence to the contrary. These effects are clearly visible both on camera and with our eyes. Are you subscribing to a science that must deny the evidence? That would be an unusual approach. There are those on the thread who are able to see and those who are able to both see and film it. I find this evidence quite heartening although - thus far I have not seen that Lambright Glimmer. Probably because I don't have the identical apparatus.

It would be nice if you could comment on the actual experiments here Sucahyo. In other words perhaps if you did a replication? Then your observations would be interesting. We'd be horribly hampered if we confined our conclusions to mere opinion without also doing the experiments. Opinions without experimentation is more in the line of philosopy.

[sucahyo]

Ash relates to the carbon atoms that comprised the earlier bound material - prior to burning. ? Is that what you also mean?

Not sure about the carbon part, maybe oxide.

More that I don't understand.

I propose that earth voltage potential is dynamic, not static.

Really? Strange that you hold this opinion in the face of evidence to the contrary. These effects are clearly visible both on camera and with our eyes. Are you subscribing to a science that must deny the evidence?

No, I mean what david see can not be captured with camera. What being seen in the video is just a secondary effect which is no where as clear as what david and others see.

What I see in the video is no where near of what david or jetijs describe. What I see can be dismissed easily as video compression loss.


I must ask question though. For the people who can see the effect, do the video still show it at the same intensity? I mean two people with different perceptibility will see the video differently?


I believe that what david and others see is real. I just regret that my method to learn to see aura still not bring result. But I pray to god that I don't take the shortcut.

I replicate it but I don't have a way to know if it work or not.


If it is confirmed that the video do show it just like real life, then try using camera with monochrome mode, bigger CCD sensor, or can see better in the dark. Might as weel shoot it in the dark and blocking camera IR light too.

[Adie123]

Im commenting on Witsend's and sucahyo recent comments here.

In this thread and shown in a few youtube vids, that non-magnetic materials are being attracted to magnetic fields. Also we have "static electricity" which sticks balloons to walls, makes hair on your head stand up etc.

Maybe Davids device is something similar and it is moving the air particles/dust around to make a wave/distortion. Maybe its a case that there is a complex twist eminating from the magnetic lock of his device which confuses the matter around it. Which inturn makes the particles vibrate as they float around.

Maybe if its possible to place the device near a TV screen and work out its magnetic pattern. Then try and replicate it into other devices that are built same or differently. With this thought then maybe its possible to get the same or similar pattern by just sticking magnets down onto a surface and getting the same effects.

Maybe people need to explore this direction of thinking, aswell as other ideas and theories that have been already mentioned?

Just a few thoughts from my over active brain cells

Regards
Adie

[witsend]

In this thread and shown in a few youtube vids, that non-magnetic materials are being attracted to magnetic fields. Also we have "static electricity" which sticks balloons to walls, makes hair on your head stand up etc.

Maybe Davids device is something similar and it is moving the air particles/dust around to make a wave/distortion. Maybe its a case that there is a complex twist eminating from the magnetic lock of his device which confuses the matter around it. Which inturn makes the particles vibrate as they float around.

If the air were moving it would have shown up in his tests on the Schlieren method of exposing this. No such air movement evident. Also perhaps now is a good time to go back and look at those earlier videos. I've realised now that it is no good looking at the point at which the glimmer is evident. One needs to expand the focus to include that part that doesn't glimmer. LOL. I needed to learn this because I'm half blind. But once one gets the two areas into perspective the movement or the glimmer is unmistakable.

Whether or not we are to expect this from any such exotic juxtaposition of magntic fields - I can't comment. All I know is that it has, to the best of my knowledge, never been seen before. I suppose the ultimate control would be to find it coming off a standard light element or, indeed, off any standard resistor or inductor - or for that matter off non-standard apparatus. But then, by the same token it must evidence anomalous heat signatures and anomalous shape distortions and it must evince a kind of generalised attraction and/or repulsion on a wide variety of materials. The scope of the Lambright Effect seems to be wide.

Maybe if its possible to place the device near a TV screen and work out its magnetic pattern. Then try and replicate it into other devices that are built same or differently.

Maybe people need to explore this direction of thinking, aswell as other ideas and theories that have been mentioned?

I'm sure you're right Adie. It's as well to explore all options. I sort of thought we were doing this.

[witsend]

Guys, just as a reminder and really for Sucahyo who's clearly not familiar with the progress of this thread. So far we've discussed imagined effects. But the camera picks it out. Then we explored the uniqueness of the glimmer which was variously attributed to camera equipment vagaries. But this is just the other side of the same argument. The eyes see the same thing as the camera sees. Then there was a general proposal that the push/pull of a wide variety of objects near it may alter the weight of that object. I can't answer this. But what I do know is that even with my own modified version of the rig the push/pull is unmistakable and is not dependant on the magnetic properties of whatever material is being used. I have not felt a general 'cooling' but I've not yet got the rig into a condition where it can spin easily - except on the vertical plane. And frankly I forgot to test for this. I'll try again. But 'that' signature has been reported by a variety of experimenters.

Sucahyo I propose you look again at post 727. And then go back to earlier ones. One needs to establish that reference point. Now that I do see it I can't think how I missed it. Hopefully you'll see what we're all talking about.

EDIT BTW. I'm not sure of the significance of the compas. To me it's proof that there's a magnetic field. That's the only reason I use it. Not sure if it's meant to indicate anything else?

[Stealth]

In the first couple of videos I could not see the distortion. Only after looking at some of his later videos did I finally see the effect. I found that for me, If I looked directly at the distortion, it would dissapear. I found that by using my peripheral vision, I could see it more clearly. It may help some to use their peripheral vision also when attempting to see the colors and wave like distortions. Good Luck. Stealth