gravity waves found

[Cloxxki]

Cloxxki - this may explain what I mean.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't.
Level 4 would be 24 circles, is the idea?
Level one could be seen as diameter 1. Level 2: diameter 2. Level 3, diameter 3. One the hart of the circles on the perameter.
As you increase diameter by one, you increase circumference by 2xpi~6. In this case, it's 6.0 due to some overlap between inner limit of the outer circle and the outer circle of the adjacent circle on the inside.
I've have to try and draw level 4 to see for myself. I expect 18. Perhaps I can't trust my instincts anymore...
My idea is strengthened by the square orange crate. Square is not that different from circular. But, I may be getting this aaaallll wrong. :s

[witsend]

different from circular. But, I may be getting this aaaallll wrong. :s

LOL. It's more likely I've got it wrong Cloxxki. But I'll check and get back here. Unless you've got this kind of software?



EDIT Have just spoken to Donny. He seems to think you may just be right Cloxxki. But he's going to check this. I may have been assuming. Unless you can do the next level there?

[Adie123]

Are you guys talking about solid state particles and their alignment? If so wouldnt the particles want to sit as tight as they can to their neighbours, which would meen an alignment like below for the toughest solid state particles.




In a 3D enviroment you'd be looking at 4 particles (spheres) built like a pyramid. Then build the other particles to them creating an equallatral pyramid (always) with their neighbours. Like so:




Adie

[witsend]

Hi Adie. No. I'm trying to grow a pure circle - so to speak. Do you have the software to do that shape? Start with one and then arrange them in a perfectly circular distribution? Be glad to see the 4th level. I sort of thought that it was a double up. But it seems I must have been wrong.

[Adie123]

Hi Adie. No. I'm trying to grow a pure circle - so to speak. Do you have the software to do that shape? Start with one and then arrange them in a perfectly circular distribution? Be glad to see the 4th level. I sort of thought that it was a double up. But it seems I must have been wrong.

Urm, why a pure circle, for what purpose?...

[witsend]

Urm, why a pure circle, for what purpose?...

Just exploring symmetries. I'm trying to find 'field' relationships on the assumption that our aether fields are bipolar magnetic particles. Just one of those ideas. LOL Abject apologies to Dave. We're WAY off topic.

[Adie123]

Grab this program. Its freeware and can do just about anything photoshop can.

GIMP - The GNU Image Manipulation Program

I prefer to use it over PS. Its easier to use.
Adie

[john_g]

Hi All

Just to join in this amazing discovery, I made a small PMH as in photo. Used 7 turns of 0.7mm enamelled wire for the coil, energised with 12volt battery. Quite amazed and excited that they locked together as the pipe is not totally true and has a few dents in it. As an observation the initial stroking of the battery terminal produced a few sparks, and the pipes locked, but subsequent strokes didn’t produce any sparks.

On the photo I have put a compass rose showing the physical orientation. Using a small button compass close-up to the tubes, I have taken readings at the base of each tube and at the top of each tube.

I cannot see the David Lambright glimmer but just to have the tubes locked together is great in itself.

Regards

John

[witsend]

I'm sorry, but it doesn't.
Level 4 would be 24 circles, is the idea?
Level one could be seen as diameter 1. Level 2: diameter 2. Level 3, diameter 3. One the hart of the circles on the perameter.
As you increase diameter by one, you increase circumference by 2xpi~6. In this case, it's 6.0 due to some overlap between inner limit of the outer circle and the outer circle of the adjacent circle on the inside.
I've have to try and draw level 4 to see for myself. I expect 18. Perhaps I can't trust my instincts anymore...
My idea is strengthened by the square orange crate. Square is not that different from circular. But, I may be getting this aaaallll wrong. :s

Finally got a diagram. Next level is indeed 18. So it's seems that you're right. But there's something off true. I'll post it when it's daylight.

Thanks D.

[witsend]

Hi All

I cannot see the David Lambright glimmer but just to have the tubes locked together is great in itself.

Regards

John

Hi john - welcome to the discussion. I did something similar but with 6. Also did not get a 'glimmer'. But there are other strange effects.

Just thought of something that may be of interest. We know that a magnet can attract something - through space - but in 'defiance' so to speak, of the gravitational field. In other words - with careful positioning - one can 'float' objects in a magnetic field. Well. Here's my proposal. What if that magnetic field is, itself, a gravitational field? I've said this before. What I'm proposing is that our earth's magnetic fields may be the 'thing' that induces material to move 'downwards' against that longitudinal magnetic force. In effect matter would always move at 90 degrees to the magnetic field.

Now there may be some experimental proof of this. If matter in a permanent cylindrical bar magnet were inclined to move towards the centre of the magnet - and if the magnetic field is toroidal - then this movement towards the centre would be both on the outside and the inside of that magnet. In effect the centre of a cylindrical bar magnet would have a hollow. We've tested this on 2 and have seen that hollow. Be interested if anyone else has seen this. I don't know but would doubt that this applies to ferrite magnets as they're constructed with pressure - I think. I am open to correction.

My thinking is that at some stage in the manufacture of those magnets the material was hot enough to allow a displacement of the matter or the material of the magnet to express this drift towards that centre. The centre of the toroid is not the centre of magnet. I'll try and draw this.

[witsend]

sorry. It's not the best picture. But I think that explains what I mean. I'll get back to this.

EDIT -for those that can't read this I've written 'the drift of material towards the centre.' In effect the centre of hte toroidal field is away from the centre of the actual magnet - thereby leaving a hollow.

[david lambright]

Here, ive done this to try help pinpoint the exact location.



Regards
Adie

hi everyone..where i see it is 10 and 11 B,C,D,E...the quarried stone i refer to is behind the tripod... 8 and 9 E thru I..you can tell it came from the pit....what is holding it up?...it is under that stone where i believe i see distortion.....david...edit..can this image be enhanced to show distance to objects, the wall in the far background, tripod etc.?...thanks ...david

[david lambright]

hi wit...

just wanted to say...i really like the model...fractals, i believe, are the best way to describe ...david

[witsend]

thinking aloud

Anyway - what intrigues me is that Leedskalnin always worked in the dark and he would never show his methods. The puzzle is - obviously - what he did. Well here's my take. Again - it's a just a flier.

If he built coral castel with conventional tools that he had available then the consensus is that it would be somewhat improbable that so small a man could manage it all single handedly. Certainly more than 6 men and modern cranes were required to repair his 'touch' swingdoor. And the fact that he worked 'under cover' of darkness suggests that he did indeed know something about the moving of the rocks that he was determined to keep secret. What follows in the wake of his legend is the fact that no adult ever saw him working. However. The photo - posted by Adie - also shows a tripod structure and Leedskalnin himself possibly operating pulleys and gears and the indications are that this would be enough to 'lift' the stones. Then too he has a raft of logs adjacent to that block hole - where I'm also certain he could place the stone and then? Maybe the roller action of the logs would allow him to position the rock where it was required. Again not sure of how much force would be required to push it at all.

But then the questions. Did he dismantle the tripod and reposition it to place the stones? Did he push the tripod into its required position? Would he have been able to do all this - given his stature and weight was probably equivalent to our average 14 year old? He also took the trouble to get 'steel' soles on his shoes. That's strange. To me that seems to speak to some need to be connected to ground. Something 'conductive' that may allow the free transfer of some kind of energies. Children said they saw him 'floating' stones through the air. Rumours abounded. What we do know is that he loaded 2 or 3 such stones onto a platform for transport in the space of half and hour. That's certainly speedy work.

And then the final puzzle - the motor itself. Here, thanks to Dave, we're seeing that there was something anomalous - something more than happenstance, fluke. I'm assuming that he didn't light the castle at night. Is this known? Presumably he did not use that for a generator - in the conventional sense of the word. And if it was intended as a generator - then it was structured more like a motor. If he used the handle to turn the motor then also he would have had to 'stay put' - turning - to generate that energy. Seems somewhat ineffecient. Certainly it would not have enabled him to carry on working on the site if he was 'anchored' so to speak at that handle - turning it.

So. Perhaps he had something in close proximity. Maybe his PMH in the centre of that motor - or just above it. Then we have some interesting juxtaposition of magnetic fields. To start with we've got the push/pull thing going on between the legs of the rig. Let's take it that there's a push between each leg and a pull between the two circles - the one circle defined as the closed circle and the other - the open circle. Let's then assume that - in motion it could maybe interact with the fields on the PMH. The thing that intrigues me about his recommended winding of this. The one side is reversed from the other - effectively establishing two fields. What Dave also does is that he establishes a magnetic field in one direction then he reverses it and does it in the other direction. Effectively there would either be two fields established or presumably the one would cancel the other. Not sure what actually happens here. What I do know is that on my own variation I get absolutely no apparent magnetic field - but it does something to compases and it definitely makes other 'things' magnetic.

Whatever the fields - and again some rather unsupported assumptions - what if? Maybe that combination of moving fields was enough to set the motor turning - on its own? No fuel? Then - connect some sort of wiring to that PMH - to himself - grounded through those steel soles - and - just maybe - the circuit flow goes from the wire - through the soles of his shoes to ground and back and over to the PMH. That may be a circuit path? If so, then - perhaps - he is able to hold those stones and somehow excite those 'bonding fields' that the stones themselves change their condition to antigravity as opposed to gravity bound?

If so - then maybe Jet's on the right path in duplicating that rig? Just some thoughts guys. If I'm way out then at least I'm giving it my best shot. LOL

[witsend]

just wanted to say...i really like the model...fractals, i believe, are the best way to describe ...david

thanks Dave. Are you getting my emails? BTW your encouragement inspired me. I've redone the model with illustrations. Maybe clearer?