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  • Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
    If you have not already watched this, then please watch the youtube videos from this guy:
    YouTube - JONDEPEW's Channel

    Looks that he has cracked the code, but is not giving anything away, just hints. But maybe someone here will get something out of this based on the knowledge gathered in this thread.

    Hope this helps.
    Yes, he's not giving away much, but nonetheless still very interesting. JonDepew says he uses a harmonic key of B flat, and goes on to say it represents the laws of Harmony in a more complete way then any other method science has perceived so far... the range limits and how they relate to the inverse cube and inverse square rules>> Well I will say this > think of it as an "EXPANDABLE BUBBLE"

    Maybe there is enough information between all of the videos and comments on his channel to narrow down the inner workings of the device. Glass may be an important feature along with the harmonic key of B flat in order to interact with the LG effect and make it useful in some kind of way.

    Thanks for the video,

    GB

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    • Originally posted by gravityblock View Post
      Yes, he's not giving away much, but nonetheless still very interesting. JonDepew says he uses a harmonic key of B flat, and goes on to say it represents the laws of Harmony in a more complete way then any other method science has perceived so far... the range limits and how they relate to the inverse cube and inverse square rules>> Well I will say this > think of it as an "EXPANDABLE BUBBLE"

      Maybe there is enough information between all of the videos and comments on his channel to narrow down the inner workings of the device. Glass may be an important feature along with the harmonic key of B flat in order to interact with the LG effect and make it useful in some kind of way.

      Thanks for the video,

      GB
      Hi GB. It's interesting that so many electromagnetic effects emit sounds of some sort. Maybe there's something in this. But if there is this b flat number then is that what we're hearing on his video? The actual question I suppose is does the apparatus emit the sound or is it operated on sound? Truth is I can't get to grips with an experiment where the solution is deliberately withheld. I find it offensive. But hey. No-one is obliged to explain what they know. Just seems a bit unfriendly. And Leedskalnin himself is forcing us to find the answers. Maybe that's what's required. Perhaps a remarkable visionary who saw that 'explaining things' does not necessarily advance knowledge. Interesting thought. But I'm inclined to think that he actually dared not explain it. Too early - or too likely to end up in attack. Who knows. I only know that new technologies need much, much protection. Sorry guys. SA has got some international cable link down and peer to peer is hopelessly compromised. It takes forever to get a post up. What I meant to add is that open source is definitely one way to get protection as there's a record - at least. Anyway.
      Last edited by witsend; 07-08-2010, 11:03 PM.

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      • Originally posted by gravityblock View Post
        Yes, he's not giving away much, but nonetheless still very interesting. JonDepew says he uses a harmonic key of B flat, and goes on to say it represents the laws of Harmony in a more complete way then any other method science has perceived so far... the range limits and how they relate to the inverse cube and inverse square rules>> Well I will say this > think of it as an "EXPANDABLE BUBBLE"

        Maybe there is enough information between all of the videos and comments on his channel to narrow down the inner workings of the device. Glass may be an important feature along with the harmonic key of B flat in order to interact with the LG effect and make it useful in some kind of way.

        Thanks for the video,

        GB
        I'm not very "musical" are any of these B flat?

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        • Hi Dave and all,
          Watching this topic with great interest. Sorry I am not able to do a build at this time.

          Here is quote from Jon Depew website:

          CCC Page 16 /


          IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO EXPERIMENT FOR THEMSELVES: This code of creation has built in markers that keep the integrity of it's message. These are 22.5-30-33-45-90 degree etc. (node connections). When these patterns are built to full form or complexity you will see within them> ALL of SACRED GEOMETRY that is to say Sacred Golden Triangles,Golden Squares,Golden Rectangles, Hexagons, Octagons etc. They are the"Perfect Phi / Pi MARKERS" . Do not ignore these markers. These degree angle markers are a big part of the mechanics behind the functionality of energy and how it interacts or communicates with surrounding space and other magnetic systems. Exactly as a snowflake reveals to us. Phi is INHERENTLY built into the BASE form of Energy, so everything born from that "BASE" is born or manifested with that INHERENT Phi /Pi mathematical value. Ed's & the Ancient curves are the VISUAL formula for that same mathematical value of Energy. It is Pi within Pi within Pi. This is obvious to a trained mystic but is not obvious to someone who is not experienced with these topics.
          That is changing quickly. Jon DePew
          ***************************
          All Jon's designs are based on the simple linking of the S curves of positive and negative magetic currents as shown on the cover of Leedskalnin's book. Most all his designs feature sweet sixteen points. This gives 22.5 degrees from the center of a circle. Maybe 16 cut pieces of pipe will give best results for Daves glimmer effect? Or, maybe less numbers of pipes cut to yield the above degree numbers will work as well?

          Here is one video for good intro to Jon D's work:

          YouTube - JONDEPEW's Channel

          I have been thinking about Dave's discovery from just a layman's point of view. Perhaps when the PMH is energized, it captures a bit of the gravity part of the magnetic spectrum withing its magnetic field. In other words, there is a little bit of gravity trapped in it as it was aligned at the time when energized. Then as you spun the wheel, or just moved it a little from its first position, a phase shift of the gravity waves will occur. Just a few degrees off would create phase shifting, causing the glimmer effect?

          The only example I can think of is when they look at old lava, they can tell by the alignment of the magnetic lines of force, where North was at the time the lava cooled. If only a little bit of gravity is captured, it will react with the undisturbed gravity as the wheel is moved around.

          Good luck to all
          tishatang

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          • Originally posted by Tishatang View Post
            Hi Dave and all,
            Watching this topic with great interest. Sorry I am not able to do a build at this time.

            Here is quote from Jon Depew website:

            CCC Page 16 /
            Just watched this Tishatang. Amazing graphics.

            Originally posted by Tishatang View Post
            All Jon's designs are based on the simple linking of the S curves of positive and negative magetic currents as shown on the cover of Leedskalnin's book. Most all his designs feature sweet sixteen points. This gives 22.5 degrees from the center of a circle. Maybe 16 cut pieces of pipe will give best results for Daves glimmer effect? Or, maybe less numbers of pipes cut to yield the above degree numbers will work as well?
            I remember you pointing out Leedskalnin's work to me. A year ago now? You see I'm now hooked. LOL.

            Originally posted by Tishatang View Post
            I have been thinking about Dave's discovery from just a layman's point of view. Perhaps when the PMH is energized, it captures a bit of the gravity part of the magnetic spectrum withing its magnetic field. In other words, there is a little bit of gravity trapped in it as it was aligned at the time when energized. Then as you spun the wheel, or just moved it a little from its first position, a phase shift of the gravity waves will occur. Just a few degrees off would create phase shifting, causing the glimmer effect?
            It would be nice if that were the whole of the answer. But it leaves questions as to 'what' is the thing itself that got isolated. In a way I agree. But I see it as magnetic fields that are able to resist the earth's fields. They're shielded somehow. In other words that 'little bit of gravity' is just a monopolar magnetic field somehow isolated in space. And because it's inherently imbalanced it's reaching out it's fields to find something to balance against - or marry with. It's other half. LOL. I do see it as a potential difference - but with a difference. It's not confined to a circuit path. But there are many other differences between this and pure voltage. Voltage is not known to change the magnetic properties of just about any material. Something in Dave's rig allows this.

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            • A short summary for myself, on Edward Leedkalnin's mysterious work:
              - Electric generation (with the PMH?)
              - Precise cutting and even undercutting of rocks (molecular disassociation? Ultrasound?)
              - Precise placing of revolving doors out of rock.
              - Levitation of large blocks, however utilising a crane for some purpose
              - swift loading of large rocks onto a truck (mobile or remote anti-gravity device)

              On top of realizing the above:
              - In-depth knowledge on astronomy.
              - Likely ground-breaking work towards higher yet understanding of magnetism.

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              • All colors of light mixed, make white, right?
                A prism can show show us the rainbow palette.

                All magnetic wavelengths combined give us the near nothing we can detect on earth. "Something" can disect it.

                Brainfart. Could Ed use the slightly lifted rock under the tripod, to collect gravity waves (or differential) from under it, to transfer it to a simple metallic wire loop around another rock to levitate it? The pulleys would offer the tuning.
                Would the PMH really be the anti-gravity part of Ed' work, not "just" crazy electric generator? Sorry, I have not studied his work in much detail.
                His Sweet Sixteen may indeed have been more about the number 16, and a phenomenon Ed foresaw or worked towards, more than a wonderful girl. Everything was cryptic with him anyway?

                It still baffles me he did this all with such primitive tools. When he went to the hospital to recover, which he didn't, I bet he intended to come back. He's go back to work, assemble a few seemingly random items, and be cutting and floating rocks again.

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                • Originally posted by Cloxxki View Post
                  All colors of light mixed, make white, right?
                  A prism can show show us the rainbow palette.

                  All magnetic wavelengths combined give us the near nothing we can detect on earth. "Something" can disect it.

                  Brainfart. Could Ed use the slightly lifted rock under the tripod, to collect gravity waves (or differential) from under it, to transfer it to a simple metallic wire loop around another rock to levitate it? The pulleys would offer the tuning.

                  Would the PMH really be the anti-gravity part of Ed' work, not "just" crazy electric generator? Sorry, I have not studied his work in much detail.
                  His Sweet Sixteen may indeed have been more about the number 16, and a phenomenon Ed foresaw or worked towards, more than a wonderful girl. Everything was cryptic with him anyway?

                  It still baffles me he did this all with such primitive tools. When he went to the hospital to recover, which he didn't, I bet he intended to come back. He's go back to work, assemble a few seemingly random items, and be cutting and floating rocks again.
                  Hi Cloxxki. I think your ideas here are as good as any - quite frankly. None of us know yet. I personally think he took something to the hospital. I'm sure there was something that was needed to 'fill in the puzzle' - like a key. Maybe a PMH but different. Just don't know. I'd give my eye teeth to see that photo more clearly. I simply can't distinguish anything 'lifting' even with Adie's lines. Still looking. By the way. I like your summary. I'm using it in fact. I think it's the most salient points.
                  Last edited by witsend; 07-09-2010, 11:30 AM.

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                  • We don't need a picture of a floating rock IMO. He moved them, and the tripod is not up for the job.
                    Also consider. If Ed mastered anti-gravity, he may not have stopped at getting rocks to float. He may have placed a target for the rock to float to all by itself. Self-guiding. Beats dragging a floating rock around by a cord. Vertical displacement is the hard part.
                    The tripod and pulley great for brute force. My gut is telling me, it was used to extract the energy to float another. It may be signicifant for the donor rock to remain large surrounded by the rock, on 5/6th of all faces.

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                    • Originally posted by Cloxxki View Post
                      We don't need a picture of a floating rock IMO. He moved them, and the tripod is not up for the job.[
                      Cloxxki - there's a thought. Can you do the math? Can you assess what actual weights that structure could hold - and the complexities of the geers to enable it to be hand operated? That would be a start. if I could do it I would. Unfortunately way out of my competence.

                      How about it?

                      Rosie

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                      • Originally posted by witsend View Post
                        Cloxxki - there's a thought. Can you do the math? Can you assess what actual weights that structure could hold - and the complexities of the geers to enable it to be hand operated? That would be a start. if I could do it I would. Unfortunately way out of my competence.

                        How about it?

                        Rosie
                        I'd hazzard at a guess of a couple of tonnes max.
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                        • Originally posted by Adie123 View Post
                          I'd hazzard at a guess of a couple of tonnes max.
                          Hi Adie. Thanks. But how about getting some numbers down? Maybe we could - at it's least - either prove or disprove the feasibility of the tripod. Not sure how you assess the weight of the blocks. I'd say their weight must be pretty much the same as granite? And Leedskalnin we know was 5ft so it may be possible to scale the length of that frame. Can this be established from such small clues? It would be nice.

                          Rosie

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                          • Originally posted by witsend View Post
                            Cloxxki - there's a thought. Can you do the math? Can you assess what actual weights that structure could hold - and the complexities of the geers to enable it to be hand operated? That would be a start. if I could do it I would. Unfortunately way out of my competence.

                            How about it?

                            Rosie
                            I have friend who is a 3D designer who could do a max loading test on a model. Type of wood would be important to know.
                            My word nor experience are worth anyhing, but I would estimate 30mt would be close to its maximum capacity. Ed's largest rock was 30mt apparently.

                            Such fine logs, used in such a tall and narrow tripod, are immense strong I reckon. They'd loaded to compress the logs, not bend them. Tribe people have built home with this technology for millennia.

                            As an example, a 200g stem (handlebar extention ~120mm between bicyle fork and handle), loaded with maximum leverage, holds about 1mt. The tripod is not loaded off-center, yet straight down center.
                            If anyone could build a heavy load tripod, it would of course be Ed.

                            Logic would be for Ed to not exceed the capacity of his tools or means. Doubling up I bet he could have done, but the operation would have become harder to keep secret. And he did not have a lot of means, or intension to do more than he did. He seemed to be more in it for the art and joy than for the size or the attention.

                            It's also odd that without apparent cutting tools, he seemed to have started out within days to cut up large blocks of coral. Without access to grip power. the undercutting pointing towards waves of some kind to have been used.

                            Sorry for the bandwidth. I'm itchin' to see more replications and hear theories!

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                            • Originally posted by Cloxxki View Post
                              I have friend who is a 3D designer who could do a max loading test on a model. Type of wood would be important to know.
                              My word nor experience are worth anyhing, but I would estimate 30mt would be close to its maximum capacity. Ed's largest rock was 30mt apparently.

                              Such fine logs, used in such a tall and narrow tripod, are immense strong I reckon. They'd loaded to compress the logs, not bend them. Tribe people have built home with this technology for millennia.

                              As an example, a 200g stem (handlebar extention ~120mm between bicyle fork and handle), loaded with maximum leverage, holds about 1mt. The tripod is not loaded off-center, yet straight down center.
                              If anyone could build a heavy load tripod, it would of course be Ed.

                              Logic would be for Ed to not exceed the capacity of his tools or means. Doubling up I bet he could have done, but the operation would have become harder to keep secret. And he did not have a lot of means, or intension to do more than he did. He seemed to be more in it for the art and joy than for the size or the attention.

                              It's also odd that without apparent cutting tools, he seemed to have started out within days to cut up large blocks of coral. Without access to grip power. the undercutting pointing towards waves of some kind to have been used.

                              Sorry for the bandwidth. I'm itchin' to see more replications and hear theories!
                              maybe ask your friend? It would be so nice. I also wonder how he could get under the granite to cut it? How is this usually done? I know the Italians used to cut a small slice into a block and then wedge in wood. Then they wet the wood and the expansion was enough to split the marble along it's natural seams. Could something like that be done to cut the underside? The point is that if he actually needed to get into that block hole to work underneath - then - at least he'd need to make it wide enough to get there. Looks pretty small to me. How do these guys do this? Do you know? To my way of seeing this material it looks somewhat 'grainy' and unpatterned if that's the word. No clear structure to that material. So I can't see a clean split at the base. AHHHH. I guess there are known techniques for this. Just wish I knew.

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                              • Originally posted by witsend View Post
                                Hi Adie. Thanks. But how about getting some numbers down? Maybe we could - at it's least - either prove or disprove the feasibility of the tripod. Not sure how you assess the weight of the blocks. I'd say their weight must be pretty much the same as granite? And Leedskalnin we know was 5ft so it may be possible to scale the length of that frame. Can this be established from such small clues? It would be nice.

                                Rosie
                                Ed's size to me is irrelevant scientifically. If a 7ft giant could operate a pulley that lifted 30mt out of a pit, then the maker of the pulley could make it workable for a 5ft man. Like pushing a button almost. Ed would need more time to complete the lift, but in fact he then had all this "lift" available for work elsewhere, he could float a rock away from the tripod with ease.

                                Coral rock has a given typical density. It's easy to determin.
                                The mass of the stones I bet was estimated and actually weight decades ago. Remember, they repaired the door.
                                The masses of the rocks themselves are the least mystery...

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