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  • Originally posted by Cloxxki View Post
    Ed's size to me is irrelevant scientifically. If a 7ft giant could operate a pulley that lifted 30mt out of a pit, then the maker of the pulley could make it workable for a 5ft man. Like pushing a button almost. Ed would need more time to complete the lift, but in fact he then had all this "lift" available for work elsewhere, he could float a rock away from the tripod with ease.
    You missed my point. I'm suggesting his height is used to determine the scale for the tripod.

    Originally posted by Cloxxki View Post
    Coral rock has a given typical density. It's easy to determine.
    The mass of the stones I bet was estimated and actually weighedtrip decades ago. Remember, they repaired the door.
    The masses of the rocks themselves are the least mystery...
    Still not with you. What I'm asking is this. Is it feasible to use that tripod to lift those big rocks. As you pointed out the heaviest were something like 30 tons. If - as you've suggested - it's reasonable - then there's the answer. I would have thought that the height of the tripod against the weight of the stones would be something that could be established. If it's feasible then it should not really be left out of the reckoning. Maybe he did indeed simply use those crude but efficient tools. Unlikely - but possible?

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    • http://media.msanet.com/NA/USA/FallP...LynxTripod.jpg
      Lynx&#153 Tripods

      Telescopic lightweight tripod.
      5400lb/~2.5mt within USA safety limits (actual failure load is 2x up to 10x, I've heard from engineers, can't guess for this item, but more than 1.0 for sure)

      Compare that to Ed's tripod, made of what seems telegraph type poles. Building the tripod might have been harder for a small man than to lift 20mt with it once in place :-)
      Don't forget the weight of an actual tree, laterally greatly loaded by the wind and snow. Now 3 of those put together...break that!
      Last edited by Cloxxki; 07-09-2010, 04:01 PM.

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      • Originally posted by witsend View Post
        You missed my point. I'm suggesting his height is used to determine the scale for the tripod.


        Still not with you. What I'm asking is this. Is it feasible to use that tripod to lift those big rocks. As you pointed out the heaviest were something like 30 tons. If - as you've suggested - it's reasonable - then there's the answer. I would have thought that the height of the tripod against the weight of the stones would be something that could be established. If it's feasible then it should not really be left out of the reckoning. Maybe he did indeed simply use those crude but efficient tools. Unlikely - but possible?
        Apologies, I read too quickly.

        I totally believe he could lift rocks of that magnitude with the tripod. Just not that he could move them anywhere. The tripod would have required caster wheels the size of a bulldozer's. And one man can't get that to roll, let alone manouevre it. This leads me to ponder whether he may have used the anti-gravity forces produced by the tripod for lifting something else.
        Who knows, perhaps potential energy in Ed's world is REAL energy, waiting to be harvested. Alternatively, perhaps he's first lift the rock, then rid it of weight, and float it away. More simplistic. The picture with the seemingly floating rock in the background seems to hint to the complicated way.

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        • one magnet no bearing

          Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
          If you have not already watched this, then please watch the youtube videos from this guy:
          YouTube - JONDEPEW's Channel

          Looks that he has cracked the code, but is not giving anything away, just hints. But maybe someone here will get something out of this based on the knowledge gathered in this thread.

          Hope this helps.
          This is a video that I have seen some time ago which involved the ONE MAGNET NO BEARING setup. In this video it was showing one driving a lot once placed in the right sequence

          Mike

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          • Originally posted by Tishatang View Post
            Hi Dave and all,
            I have been thinking about Dave's discovery from just a layman's point of view. Perhaps when the PMH is energized, it captures a bit of the gravity part of the magnetic spectrum withing its magnetic field. In other words, there is a little bit of gravity trapped in it as it was aligned at the time when energized. Then as you spun the wheel, or just moved it a little from its first position, a phase shift of the gravity waves will occur. Just a few degrees off would create phase shifting, causing the glimmer effect?

            Good luck to all
            tishatang
            In chapter/page (15-18) of a "Practical Guide to Free Energy Devices", Mr. Cater says, "Gravity is caused by a component of the electromagnetic spectrum of about one trillion cycles per second (0.3 to 4.3 mm wavelength; located above radar and below the infra-red region)."

            If this is the case, then portions of the electromagnetic spectrum responsible for gravity may be getting trapped within the magnetic field when the PMH is energized as you suggested.

            Interesting stuff,

            GB

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            • Below is a little information on the 12 Golden Notes, in reference to the B flat in JonDepew's video.

              Theory 6: You can surround a single sphere perfectly with 12 identically sized spheres - with each sphere perfectly touching its neighbouring spheres (this forms the points of the cuboctahedron, or the faces of its dual - the 'rhombic dodecahedron'). Twelve also has the exclusive property of being the Gravitational Symmetry Limit - another sphere arrangement based on the icosahedron (See this site for more information). It seems inherently dodgy to relate musical pitch to geometry, but it's a tiny possibility. While we're in geometrical territory, there also appears to be an interesting relation to the 4 dimensional 24-cell.


              GB
              Last edited by gravityblock; 07-09-2010, 08:15 PM.

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              • Originally posted by gravityblock View Post
                Theory 6: Moving on to very speculative territory, you can surround a single sphere perfectly with 12 identically sized spheres - with each sphere perfectly touching its neighbouring spheres (this forms the points of the cuboctahedron, or the faces of its dual - the 'rhombic dodecahedron').
                pretty much what i said about solid state particle structures here - post #1176


                Originally posted by gravityblock View Post
                It seems inherently dodgy to relate musical pitch to geometry, but it's a tiny possibility. While we're in geometrical territory, there also appears to be an interesting relation to the 4 dimensional 24-cell as explained here.
                Lets relate sound with geometry :P YouTube - Sound Waves

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                  Originally posted by gravityblock View Post
                  Theory 6: Moving on to very speculative territory, you can surround a single sphere perfectly with 12 identically sized spheres - with each sphere perfectly touching its neighbouring spheres (this forms the points of the cuboctahedron, or the faces of its dual - the 'rhombic dodecahedron'). Twelve also has the exclusive property of being the Gravitational Symmetry Limit - another sphere arrangement based on the icosahedron (See this site for more information). It seems inherently dodgy to relate musical pitch to geometry, but it's a tiny possibility. While we're in geometrical territory, there also appears to be an interesting relation to the 4 dimensional 24-cell as explained here.
                  You may want to check where your last link of "here" takes us.


                  TheTruthBeKnown
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                  • Originally posted by CatLady View Post
                    You may want to check where your last link of "here" takes us.


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                    hehe, oh well, information lost to vastness of space itself
                    Always thinking outside the box!

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                    • Waves

                      YouTube - Non-newtonian fluid: IT'S ALIVE! [HD]

                      There are SOOO many of these to watch. Real interesting. I will someday try one for myself.



                      TheTruthBeKnown
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                      • Originally posted by CatLady View Post
                        You may want to check where your last link of "here" takes us.


                        TheTruthBeKnown
                        Dr. Darcy Babyola
                        I took the link out. Outdated link I suppose. Sorry.

                        GB

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                        • Originally posted by Tishatang View Post
                          Hi Dave and all,
                          Watching this topic with great interest. Sorry I am not able to do a build at this time.

                          Here is quote from Jon Depew website:

                          CCC Page 16 /


                          IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO EXPERIMENT FOR THEMSELVES: This code of creation has built in markers that keep the integrity of it's message. These are 22.5-30-33-45-90 degree etc. (node connections). When these patterns are built to full form or complexity you will see within them> ALL of SACRED GEOMETRY that is to say Sacred Golden Triangles,Golden Squares,Golden Rectangles, Hexagons, Octagons etc. They are the"Perfect Phi / Pi MARKERS" . Do not ignore these markers. These degree angle markers are a big part of the mechanics behind the functionality of energy and how it interacts or communicates with surrounding space and other magnetic systems. Exactly as a snowflake reveals to us. Phi is INHERENTLY built into the BASE form of Energy, so everything born from that "BASE" is born or manifested with that INHERENT Phi /Pi mathematical value. Ed's & the Ancient curves are the VISUAL formula for that same mathematical value of Energy. It is Pi within Pi within Pi. This is obvious to a trained mystic but is not obvious to someone who is not experienced with these topics.
                          That is changing quickly. Jon DePew
                          ***************************
                          All Jon's designs are based on the simple linking of the S curves of positive and negative magetic currents as shown on the cover of Leedskalnin's book. Most all his designs feature sweet sixteen points. This gives 22.5 degrees from the center of a circle. Maybe 16 cut pieces of pipe will give best results for Daves glimmer effect? Or, maybe less numbers of pipes cut to yield the above degree numbers will work as well?

                          Here is one video for good intro to Jon D's work:

                          YouTube - JONDEPEW's Channel

                          I have been thinking about Dave's discovery from just a layman's point of view. Perhaps when the PMH is energized, it captures a bit of the gravity part of the magnetic spectrum withing its magnetic field. In other words, there is a little bit of gravity trapped in it as it was aligned at the time when energized. Then as you spun the wheel, or just moved it a little from its first position, a phase shift of the gravity waves will occur. Just a few degrees off would create phase shifting, causing the glimmer effect?

                          The only example I can think of is when they look at old lava, they can tell by the alignment of the magnetic lines of force, where North was at the time the lava cooled. If only a little bit of gravity is captured, it will react with the undisturbed gravity as the wheel is moved around.

                          Good luck to all
                          tishatang
                          I find that I certainly agree with Jon's analysis of these energy interactions which manifest at the subatomic to the macro scales. No doubt one of the primary reasons that the atmospheric path of Saturns Polar clouds take on a distinct hexagonal configuration. It is also the fundamental cause for tall columns and wide paving areas of hexagonal Basalt formations.
                          Originally posted by [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basalt]Basalt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]
                          These structures are often erroneously described as being predominantly hexagonal. In reality, the mean number of sides of all the columns in such a structure is indeed six (by geometrical definition), but polygons with three to twelve or more sides can be observed.


                          Another thing that I find somewhat curious regarding Pi, Phi, and the Fibonacci sequence is the The Biwabik Sum. This number strangely identifies a relationship between Imperial Two in thousandths of an inch and the Metric 5.08 in millimeters. A Meter as we know is a derivative of the Earth's polar circumference whereas the inch is derivative of a biological average width of the human male thumb. Interesting how these seemingly unrelated things somehow tie back to Phi, Pi and Fibonacci.

                          Consider if my theory is correct and the orbitals of electrons are not circular, but instead are angled and those angles play a fundamental role in the way atoms interact. But that topic is a matter for another forum.

                          Last edited by Harvey; 07-09-2010, 09:09 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by witsend View Post
                            I can't quite understand this. Are you changing the direction of those magnets or are they still like the earlier drawing? Is there still a nn/ss number there?

                            Thanks witsend for the kind words


                            What I meant was that my wheel has 24 metal poles pointing outwards and I just put a small rectangular neo magnet on 12 of the poles. I just had not enough magnets to put on all 24 poles so I just took 12 of them and put them on every second pole and they were all facing N outwards. This made an S magnetic pole in between both N poles, very similar to the Leedskalnin wheel on that video where they showed the magnetic poles of the generator using a pole identifier. I just could not magnetize the steel to get permanent remaining magnetic poles, so I improvised and used neo magnets instead. I hope this makes things more clear. The wheel is given away to others for few days for testing so I can't make a picture of the setup at this time.

                            Thank you!

                            It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                            • Hi Guys,

                              I've been working on those magnetic fields for about 3 days - hundreds of scribbles in my jotter. I'll try and tidy it up and see if I can get a decent presentation of where I'm going here. Re Leedskalnin's rotor - I now think that there's some considerable relevance to the 'rose' (is that what it's called?) in the centre of the rig - together with the graduated increases in the levels. The fact is that at that point the entire design folds into 4 - which speaks to an innate imbalance. Four - against the 6 legs to each petal - would subdivide to 3 to 1 - which point to a monopolar field that was mentioned? Maybe?

                              I wonder if that's clear. What I mean is this. Let's say 6 legs represented n/s/n then the first n/s would cancel - leaving just the n. The next would be the same but s/n/s - s/n cancel leaving just the s. And so on. Effectively one field is left 'unpaired' and that field can only bond across 'space' so to speak - which would begin to develop a kind of knitted pattern induced across the flywheel. If the second raised section then - in turn - was induced with these isolated fields and subject to there being the same number (I can't quite see if this is the case) then they, in turn could induce that 'single odd man out' so to speak - to the rose. And I don't know if it's significant but to me it looks as if the petals have been very tightly bolted which speaks to repulsion between those fields notwithstanding the n/s/n/s possible arrangement. Because it's bolted I think that there's another monopolar field here and I wonder if this too was not magnetised? Either way the magnetic patterns are complex. I certainly have not done this definitively. And I do not propose that this is right. But I think that the puzzle may be in the inter-relationship between these three circle levels? Again. Just my tuppence worth. It's obsessively interesting.

                              EDIT BTW this is the picture I'm working with. Is there a clearer schematic anywhere. I'd be very glad if someone could perhaps post it here. I think we could all do with a clearer reference and I simply do not know where to get this.

                              Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
                              Edd had 5x24 Vpieces so total of 120 pcs.

                              Last edited by witsend; 07-10-2010, 05:08 AM.

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                              • Interesting thoughts witsend
                                Here is a better picture:

                                It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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