gravity waves found

[david lambright]

hi everyone...

alex, thanks for posting....i have been looking for anything similar to what i have seen, but nothing till now.....could you help with any links to video or pix that show this distortion effect?...thanks again, david

[Loadstone]

Hi again.
Just to mention....my project is on hold until my shaft coupling is machined.
At the moment it's just a wooden one....
I cast one in iron, but I've been slack getting it machined. Too bloody cold in my shed at the moment anyway. Universal energy transformation will have to wait until spring.

I also missed the 1500th post....by THAT much.
Doh.
Scotty.

[Jetijs]

Hi loadsotone.
Awesome progress
Where did you get those magnets? Have you tried locking them together using a coil or several on the magnets? If not, please try thta, this is waht I am trying to accomplish here now, but I have stillno luck getting the right materials.

[Harvey]

Hi again.
Just to mention....my project is on hold until my shaft coupling is machined.
At the moment it's just a wooden one....
I cast one in iron, but I've been slack getting it machined. Too bloody cold in my shed at the moment anyway. Universal energy transformation will have to wait until spring.

I also missed the 1500th post....by THAT much.
Doh.
Scotty.

Hi Scotty - Really glad to see you here Your vids are great

Is there any physical reason that Ed would have used that cloverleaf? I mean, it looks like all the magnets were pretty much clamped well by the upper flywheel - So, apart from holding in the slurry I don't see why he would have wired that on there from a physical point of view.

But from a Magnetic point of view, it may serve to focus the field.

BTW - I noticed how you magnetized your magnets and it made me remember a drawing I did for Adie:
Zoom Image

It may be helpful for you to re-magnetize your magnets after they have been installed.

[Alex.]

I actually have a sample of that core memory:

Thanks for this picture... nostalgia (I see this rings and young time come to mind )

But I must state here, that it does not work on the same principle as Leedskalnin's PMH

As far as I remember - rings was charged there with one short impulse and hold domain orientation indefinitely while another impulse reorient polarity.

Core memory relies on a soft magnetic material that holds the magnetic state regardless if you were to cut the material in half - it would still be a magnet with potential.

Well, partially true, but I remember defiantly - mechanically broken rings didn't hold information anymore, but you're right here - there was used different type of material.

The PMH loses it's magnetic quality as soon as the flux path is broken.

Yes, the same things happened with polarization relay, once a tong of relay pushed away with help of screwdriver, it doesn't attracted to the core anymore until next impulse come in.

You say that the optical effects claimed are a well known aspect of science - I have been involved with science since 1966 and I have not seen this effect yet. Is this something common in your part of the world that somehow hasn't reached Cal-Tech, JPL, UCLA or UCSD?

I was in San Diego few times and didn't find that air over there much different to compare with other places in the world. So, I believe California's air has the same µ=1,00000038
(BTW, I'd really like San Diego area, Coronado island, La Jole, Balboa park, zoo. Really nice place except fire in the end of the almost each summer)
Seriously, I hope, I saw the same effect (like hot air over road) a few times when I worked in science lab where we did some special project for plane factory - vibrostand to explore load on plane's wings.
We used there very strong electro magnets (a few kilowatt as I remember). Attention to this effect was found by our technician who started worry about overheat of coils, but when we measured temperature on it, it was in acceptable range and this effect appear only when electro-magnets was activated. I should say - it not perfectly visible, almost the same as in David's video, but it recognizable if air doesn't move around and if it especially take your attention.
I couldn't provide more details on it because it wasn't part of my job. One thing that I remember - coils of magnets was driven by positive impulse with regulated duty cycle on fixed frequency.
One more thing - we used there coils with special winding - very close to that one that was theoretically explained later by Marko Rodini with his vertex math and called now as Rodin coil.
Our science team leader explained that effect as - air is a paramagnetic(few, but it is) and in a strong magnetic field change its density while attracting to strong magnet field that's why it looks like hot air mixing.
Well, this explanation was enough for me(at least) since there is a logic and I actually almost forgot about it until I eventually come to this thread.

...however we must acknowledge that the capacitor simply will not deliver a continuous charge into such a low inductance winding the same way several aH of battery can unless it is a very large and most likely expensive capacitor even at a low rating of 9.6V.

I don't think that this device need continuous charge, polarized relay can be switched with capacitor, so, why big analog of it couldn't...
Well, capacitors isn't cheap, but to compare to new batteries price it will be much less in my opinion.
You can find on ebay 5-15 FARAD(!!!) x 20V in range from $5 to $50 that can handle thousand Amperes on discharging and as we know coil liked the current, not a voltage.
Even the best modern LiPo battery is able to provide ten times less current safely to compare with capacitor.
I don't thing that capacitors comparably is a very expensive, but that type with huge capacitance IMHO would be more than enough to charge coil since magnetic hysteresis in David's pipes I think is very limited.

alex, thanks for posting....i have been looking for anything similar to what i have seen, but nothing till now.....could you help with any links to video or pix that show this distortion effect?...thanks again, david

David, I'm sorry, but it(when a saw this effect) was 20+ years ago. And when I got explanation from our team leader I didn't pay attention to it, I just accepted it as it should be because of - if material has magnetic properties it should act appropriately.
I wish you found something different, it would be really interesting, but I afraid it's the same effect as it was explained above.

[Cloxxki]

Sorry, I've not managed to keep up with all posts.

I just figured. If a layer of magnets/V's is in magnetic PMH lock, is it not isolated magnetically? A second, also locked layer, could just be placed on top (with wooden carrier if needed).
Stack up 5 this way, and then add a sturdy clamp. The clamp will only be loaded by the magnets when the lock in one of more of the PMH's is lost.

That make ANY sense to anyone?

[david lambright]

hi...

alex...if you only saw this distortion when the magnets were turned on, that is good news...my devices are making this distortion without using any power except initial one time charge....question...a very strong magnet, N-50, or a strong electro magnet should distort the air around it also?......i made some schlieren type videos where heat from my hand and butane were very visible but there was no air movement around my devices......so no heat, no constant power input, and almost no external magnetic field, yet they still create a visible distortion around them.....to do this requires some type of input.....what is it and where is it coming from?.....thanks...david

[Harvey]

David,

I've been thinking (I know, that can be dangerous )
Wouldn't you agree that if there was any true distortion of visible light the Schlieren Photography would have identified it?

This is one reason why I think it has something to do with the green dot phenomenon. I think perhaps the rig is absorbing some fundamental frequency but all of the harmonics for that frequency are present so our brains, insert the missing frequency which it concludes needs to be there.

While the green dot illusion is caused by POV in the eye receptors, I think we also have a similar effect in the visual cortex. It is the same process known as the 'missing fundamental' in sound. We hear frequencies that are not in the original recordings when the harmonics for those frequencies exist. And I think we see colors (frequencies) where fundamental frequencies are missing.

Also, the ability to see this phenomenon seems to rest on the training or sensitivity of the observer.

Just by chance the other day, I was watching this video:
YouTube - I Did What I Could With My Gas Mask - George Formby

and I couldn't help but notice all of the 'heat wave' effects on the wallpaper behind the cats. That is just a still shot that was recorded, but the distortion is unmistakable for any observer because the compression algorithm in the video makes those things really stand out.

So we must accept that whatever the visual distortion is around your rig that is affecting the visual perception of tens of people viewing it thus far, must not be detectable from the Schlieren Photography. So we need to discover what can do that - affect the eyes but not the mirror.

Evidently, whatever it is - when it is recorded, evidently some viewers state they are able to see it in the video as well. I would love to have this ability, but regardless of how I try - Nada I've tried the blue light in the dark, the looking in the mirror etc. I've even let my 3 element rig with an absolutely strong magnetic field in it sit for several days and I observed it in all sorts of light. I even tried to encourage my brain to see the various colors and patterns by inducing colored light with changing patterns through the device (see:YouTube - Triplet Colors) hoping that if there was any condition I was not familiar with, perhaps my brain would learn to spot it. So far nothing.

I am hoping to find some soft tubing today and within the next few days construct one of your rings and perhaps that will help me. Also, CatLady has agreed to let me view one of your rigs when she gets one to evaluate so I am still hopeful

[david lambright]

this may help...

this is interesting...PhysForum Science, Physics and Technology Discussion Forums (Powered by Invision Power Board) i found this text..START...Sir William Crookes had seen within the action space of his now famed high vacuum tube — There, suspended over the cathode, was a black space which was actually radiant. THe radiance extended beyond the tube walls in certain special instances. Sir William had no difficulty accepting the fact that this was a "space–permeating" blackness, a radiance having far greater significance than a mere physical phenomenon. ... (p257)

Electrogravitic Phenomenon.

George Piggot mentioned the mysterious "black bands" which appeard around his highly charged suspended metal marbles. Light seemed to disappear into these zones.

It was Nikola Tesla whose forgotten and ignored testimony on the perceptual effects of high voltage electrical systems, who made the most observations. Tesla produced such intense electrical arcs that the same "blackout effects" were repeatedly observed. In the case of Tesla's famed Colorado Springs Experiments, the blackout effect produced a lingering state which Tesla described as a perceptual-spatial distortion.

Noted in his published diary, the results followed the intense activity of his Magnifying Transformer. Visual distortions, clarifications, black shadows, black streamers, black waves, lingered for hours all around his plateau labroratory, whereby he stated that:

"These phenomenon are so striking that they cannot be satisfactorily explain by any plausible hypothesis, and I am led to believe that possibly the strong electrification of the air, which is often noted to an extraordinary degree, may be more or less responsible for their occurrence."

Invis (p265)

(p259)
STOP...this is interesting, i had never read any of this but suspected that it must have been documented...i am glad it was the likes of Tesla and others who reported on these effects....i am trying to get the link...The Electric Force - Electricity - Electrified Matter that link and i will be searching for more stuff...david

[david lambright]

hi...

has anyone verified the links?....interesting ............david

[david lambright]

hi

hi........http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history...tm......scroll down to contact and read...the whole thing is a good read....now we are getting somewhere!....david

[IndianaBoys]

hi........ down to contact and read...the whole thing is a good read....now we are getting somewhere!....david

David,

Here is the corrected link:

Electric Flying Machines - Thomas Townsend Brown

IndianaBoys

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Great find

Just brilliant

Mike

[sucahyo]

I come accross thread where what create aura can change the way an ice forms. Maybe we can use ice to see the PMH effect?



David, if you do not add space after the link, the link won't work.

[david lambright]

sorry about that...

sorry about the links, i sometimes get in a hurry.....and i believe indiana boys posted that link previously, you guys are good...thanks everyone for helping figure this out...i have seen other videos where i could see the distortion around different devices but it seems like it was not really looked at to find out what it really is or why it distorts images like it does...at least i know that these are real and not some kind of imagined wave form......david