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  • Blind Spots

    Hey Guys,

    I just learned something:

    http://www.energeticforum.com/genera...tml#post114463

    I wonder if the visible effect relies on the blind spot? If so, and some of us don't respond to it, perhaps that is why we cannot see it.

    I do know that I am Red blind in a very small area of my retina in my right eye (probably from a laser hit many years ago) but apart from that my peripheral vision is quite good and my 'blind' spot seems to be compensated for by peripheral overlaps within the same eye . The test on the previous link does blur the 'O' a bit, but it is still visible to me. Strange
    "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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    • gravity?

      OK...lets talk gravity...John Hutchinson has showed us that we can manipulate gravity, density, etc..TT Brown, Tesla and others saw this SAME radiation....this radiation IS gravity....what is another term for radiation?....a WAVE.....OK lets talk Leedskalnin for a bit....his V shaped segments in his "wheel" ...he used those because they are made of SOFT iron....his wheel is a large circular PMH!.....that is why my oxide core devices work.....they are an oxide PMH.....this radiation is different from both electricity and permanent magnetism....it follows some of the same laws as them but it mimics IR radiation.....this wave IS gravity!

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      • David belting find! I really don’t want to change the flow of your investigation but as Many people following your thread have also built PM holders of one sort or another I was rather hoping one of you might be kind enough to repeat a quirk which I dismissed 10years or so ago. I’ll explain a little... I was intrigued by the PM holder Matt Emery had just started investigating the subject, and so I built one (not one of engineering’s finest but the best I could knock out in my garage) its center tapped on both coils because of further investigations I had planned. That aside it of course did and does exactly what Edward said it would do.
        I decided not unreasonably to apply some more volts to the PMH in order to see if the effect was amplified. I had initially charged it from my car battery.
        I had no other battery available at that time to put in series with my car battery, I did however have a 10 Amp battery charger, nothing sophisticated no current fold back short circuit or over voltage protection just a bog standard battery charger. Without breaking the magnetic circuit I connected the PMH to the Battery charger and the battery (now connected in series) now the odd thing was I could not Inject anymore current with a mains driven source involved!! I tried it much later with a couple of batteries and found the effect very different. I assumed at the time it might be an engineering quirk in the charger transformer and dismissed it,even when I had the same effect with a battery and a PSU having read some of this thread I realize nothing to do with the PM holder should be dismissed so lightly! Perhaps one of you who have a PM holder to hand wouldn’t mind taking a few minuets out to try what I have outlined and tell me what result you see?
        Last edited by Duncan; 10-31-2010, 10:03 AM.
        Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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        • Hi Duncan,

          There definitely is a difference between those two tests. Even the best "Starting Current" equipped chargers only offer a fraction of the current that a battery can offer, like the Diehard Engine Starting Charger at only 250A. The average car battery can have upwards of 450A to 900A available.

          So your PMH could have been starved for current by the charger and that current is necessary to create the field needed to induce the magnetic flux that in turn clamps the PMH keeper in a permanent magnet fashion. That flux will remain indefinitely unless the path is broken.

          There is a saturation point where no more flux can be contained (and thus a cap on how much current is needed). All materials, shapes and sizes produce different permeability values and thus different saturation thresholds.

          "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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          • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
            OK...lets talk gravity...John Hutchinson has showed us that we can manipulate gravity, density, etc..TT Brown, Tesla and others saw this SAME radiation....this radiation IS gravity....what is another term for radiation?....a WAVE.....OK lets talk Leedskalnin for a bit....his V shaped segments in his "wheel" ...he used those because they are made of SOFT iron....his wheel is a large circular PMH!.....that is why my oxide core devices work.....they are an oxide PMH.....this radiation is different from both electricity and permanent magnetism....it follows some of the same laws as them but it mimics IR radiation.....this wave IS gravity!
            Hi David,

            There is a lot more truth in your comment than the average academic is willing to recognize.

            I say this, because according to my theory gravity is, at the quantum level, a pressure wave in space-time produced by the material displacement of space-time. This means that every subatomic particle that has mass does in fact produce that wave as it expands and collapses at currently immeasurable speeds. In other words, the stuff that makes up our atoms is not there 100% of the time, instead it is only there a small fraction of the time as it oscillates between energy (no mass) and material (mass). In a large mass like our planet, it is the net sum of all of these waves that result in a spatial curvature around the planet that leads to time following a curved path. As I have stated before elsewhere, changing the path of something traveling at a constant speed produces a change in velocity. A change in velocity is acceleration. Therefore, when time curves (change in path) around the mass, it experiences an acceleration. Any object, moving with time will experience a centripetal force associated with the acceleration. It is that centripetal force that we feel as gravity.

            Astute readers will recognize that this exposes gravity to be a variable force that does not have a constant associated with it. Therefore what happens here on Earth with respects to gravity does not necessarily hold true in other parts of the Galaxy or Universe. In simple terms, there is no Dark matter or Dark energy, there is simply a different wave function associated with the material that makes up those masses in those locations. Curved space becomes a function of the interval by which matter displaces that space. The greater the period of displacement, the greater the curvature and thus the stronger the gravity. This is probably why our measurements show gravity to be such a weak force, because it only exists for the fraction of the time that the material is manifest with mass. This is Einsteins cosmological factor that he thought was a great blunder - but in fact is the key. Cosmologists today, are experimenting with different values for that in order to explain observations.

            For the very deep thinkers, you will readily recognize that I have given out the secret to my TOE. Because it unifies all of the forces by showing the strong and the weak nuclear forces to be different values of gravity inexorably linked to the wave function of those nuclei components and their relative periods. Therefore, the electromagnetic forces must also be variant forms of spatial manipulation.

            It is very important also, to not make the mistake of thinking space-time to be a homogeneous volume. Gravity is solely dependent on the pressure provided by this fabric, and if the fabric itself fails to exert that pressure then wave function breaks down at the quantum level and material will simply lose it's ability to remain functional. In other words, metals turn to jelly etc. This fabric may be stretched tight or may be loosely folded over on itself thus completely changing the gravitational equation that depends on its pressure.

            If you wish to make anti-gravity, all you need to do is prevent the space-time of your object from interacting with the space-time of the planet. Easier said than done. Remember, the frequencies involved are immeasurably fast. But if you could create an envelope that precludes Earths vibrations from penetrating into your object, and that envelope stays with the object, then the object will be free from Earth's gravitational effect. That envelope would have to be a cancellation barrier where what is without cannot get in, and what is within cannot get out as far as the spatial functions mentioned prior.

            We may not yet be able to measure those frequencies, but we certainly can analyze them from what we observe. The shells that electrons prefer to orbit in are low pressure zones created from the sum of the nuclei particle vibrations and their various harmonics. Electrons simply follow the 'tube' so to speak which is really just a longitudinal wave trough in a spherical environment. Therefore, the troughs must be related, at least at the harmonic level, to the underlying fundamental frequencies produced by the nuclei particles. You ever wonder why a neutron only lives for about 12 minutes all by itself? Perhaps it has a lot to do with he oscillations and gravitational aspect.

            Last edited by Harvey; 11-01-2010, 12:32 AM.
            "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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            • Originally posted by Harvey View Post
              Hi Duncan,

              There definitely is a difference between those two tests. Even the best "Starting Current" equipped chargers only offer a fraction of the current that a battery can offer, like the Diehard Engine Starting Charger at only 250A. The average car battery can have upwards of 450A to 900A available.

              So your PMH could have been starved for current by the charger and that current is necessary to create the field needed to induce the magnetic flux that in turn clamps the PMH keeper in a permanent magnet fashion. That flux will remain indefinitely unless the path is broken.

              There is a saturation point where no more flux can be contained (and thus a cap on how much current is needed). All materials, shapes and sizes produce different permeability values and thus different saturation thresholds.

              Of course everything you say is quite right Harvey, There is far greater current available from a car battery than a charger, and the permeability as you say would set a saturation point.
              Indeed the BH curve for a PMH would be interesting to say the least, if there was anyway to get at it in a closed loop. I have yet to convince myself that reversing the current flow reverses anything else much as far as the PMH goes. I’ve wired and constructed an awful lot of things over the years Harvey and have a good idea what’s likely to occur at any time,(at least electrically) my life depends on it at times.. This PMH did not do what I expected in the circumstances. My post was very vague Harvey and I guess the response was richly deserved. My PMH is as close to Edwards as described in “Magnetic current” as I could construct, the resistance of the whole thing as measured at the terminals (which you would normally connect to a battery) is 2.2 ohms. The Inductance measures 8.7 milli H. Given those figures and a 10A charger I expected some sort of rise in current draw. I didn’t get it. I was simply interested to know if anyone else had noted anything similar. And I would then investigate further.
              It’s a very odd piece of kit to say the least and the very basis of its operation defies explanation by standard means. The fact that David has detected Waves does not surprise me at all. I was just scratching my head for anything I had noted “out of the ordinary” Its very exciting David keep after it!!
              Last edited by Duncan; 11-01-2010, 01:41 PM.
              Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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              • Hi Duncan,

                With those figures you've given us I would expect around 3A from your charger and around 5.45A from your single battery but combined I would expect a little less than 5A, around 4.2A or something like that.

                The reason for this is the pulsed DC provided from the unfiltered charger and the inductive reactance of the coils. I did my calcs with 60Hz but you may be using 50Hz so things could have been a bit different.

                There is also the capacitive reactance of the series battery involved which could even reduce the current further and that is an unknown in your setup there.

                Another thing that can impact current flow is heating in the wires. As the wires get warmer (which they can do with double voltage) they get more resistive which has a limiting effect on the current.

                A rare condition can occur in your case where the inductive reactance of the coil matches the capacitive reactance of the battery at precisely the supply frequency. In this case resonance is met and the current will actually spike off the charts unless limited by the source impedance. I say rare because 3 things have to be aligned there and the physical size and frequency often don't agree with each other in these configurations. Low frequency requires large components and high frequency chargers are not that common.

                I'm glad you took the time to question the process. All too often we dismiss little things that provide big answers because those little things are not part of the bigger goal. Nature is full of those little things. I'm reminded of spiders that do cartwheels down sand dunes giving us the concept of the wheel, squid that give us jet propulsion, Palm leaves that resonate wildly in low winds, Octopus and Chameleon that camouflage, Geckos that stick to glass using electrostatics, Electric Eels that don't short out in salt water, the honeycomb, the firefly and the list goes on and on. All of those things stand as a tribute to an intellect far greater than ours. Not just that they exist at all, but because the co-exist - it seems to defy the bounds of time set by the young age of our planet for them all to evolve in such a short period of time in such precision and balance.

                So keep on noticing those little unexpected things, explore them
                Last edited by Harvey; 11-01-2010, 04:38 PM.
                "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                • Locking a permanent magnet

                  Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                  can a PMH be "locked" using a permanent magnet?......david
                  I thought of that too, but I think it would not work as well with a permanent magnet. Ed was quoted as saying that soft iron was better for a PMH (?)... I think. In any event, a Permanent Magnet already has a N / S pole, so creating a PMH out of it will only shift the poles. Or perhaps add to them. Or maybe nullify them. Depends on where the copper wires are wrapped around it.

                  I also wonder about using silver wire, rather than copper. Silver conducts better (I believe) and should not heat as quickly as the copper does(?) I think you'd get a better flow of current since resistance is low. But would it still work to create a PMH?


                  -Van

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                  • Magnetron?

                    David-

                    Was the magnetron he used powered up?
                    I mean - is he exposing the PMH to microwave energy in order to see the effect better?
                    Or is it a magnetron (ie from a non-working unit) that is a loose, spare-part?

                    Thanks,
                    -Van

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                    • hi everyone...

                      @van...i do not know if it was on or off, but take all safety precautions whenever working with any type of power!...i will ask SV about that...@ duncan, thank you for interest and your input!....@ harvey, thanks for the way you illuminate your posts!...as least for me you make your posts easy to visualize an understand.....so far i have only made a PMH on a 2-D plane...i should make a PMH using a more 3-D geometric structure and perhaps an adjustable axis[es]....like a spherical instead of just circular....i am very interested in the saturation of my oxide core devices...i am hoping you guys will help....thanks....david

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                      • sucahyo

                        i am not sure if you have heard of this type of imagery or not Jiro Olcott » Sacred Stone Sites i thought of your images when i saw this...david

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                        • Originally posted by Van T Stride View Post
                          I thought of that too, but I think it would not work as well with a permanent magnet. Ed was quoted as saying that soft iron was better for a PMH (?)... I think. In any event, a Permanent Magnet already has a N / S pole, so creating a PMH out of it will only shift the poles. Or perhaps add to them. Or maybe nullify them. Depends on where the copper wires are wrapped around it.

                          I also wonder about using silver wire, rather than copper. Silver conducts better (I believe) and should not heat as quickly as the copper does(?) I think you'd get a better flow of current since resistance is low. But would it still work to create a PMH?


                          -Van
                          i believe Ed heated those segments past their Curie point before he assembled his wheel so that the iron was "fresh", with no permanent magnetism....scotty [loadstone?] shows that a PMH can be locked with a single long wire that goes through the center of the PMH, not even wraped around either leg!...you need to use a larger wire but it does work.....i can lock steel to ferrite with one wrap of wire... YouTube - david showing ferrite+steel PMH ...i have used a cap from a camera flash to lock a PMH also but i did not notice any difference in the strength of lock .....scotty said with a larger device, the strength of lock varied with input, voltage, amps etc. up to saturation....i think what i need to be looking for is material that can be super- saturated ....possibly an alloy or an oxide mixture...magnetite sand from china? ...the oxide core devices work very well, with plenty of visual radiations [vibrations?] and other super -magnetic [making all materials feel as being push/pulled magneticly] forces, radiating from these devices....replicators are seeing/feeling these SAME things...little by little we are figuring out EXACTLY how to reproduce this radiated wave, every time....for all replicators....this is something very different yet following some of the same sets of rules as electricity or magnetism...we all heard about the plastic film factory and the "wall" produced ...nothing there but an area made "solid" , by an invisible source?....this makes sense if these waves can add density or take the density out of a material ....in my first videos i am spinning a 14 pound quartz geode, with my fingers, it feels as though it has lost some of its mass and feels light. at this same time there is what looks visually like an interference pattern....i believe when these waves interfere or cancel,is when these effects are at their best....in affect, cancelling out some of an objects mass/inertia/gravity, it is all the same thing...the static wall shows us that something can cause invisible density or mass?...i propose that if a density can be manufactured, then so can its opposite, that can take the density/mass out...david

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                          • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                            i am not sure if you have heard of this type of imagery or not Jiro Olcott » Sacred Stone Sites i thought of your images when i saw this...david
                            Thank you. It is different. That should be PIP (polycontrast interference photography). However, I think picture reading is less effective than ice experiment or pendulum reading. I never see polarity shown on PIP picture which I think very important to know for our experiment.

                            I now believe that gravity effect is related with energy that can produce clear ice. And it is definitely not magnetic nor electric.

                            See if you can accumulate your PMH wave by something like this bellow:


                            One face absorb, other face shoot. Made it with insulated copper wire. Maybe from bigger diameter, maybe 10 roll or more. It produce noticeably different ice pattern on each face:

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                            • magnetron

                              Originally posted by Van T Stride View Post
                              David-

                              Was the magnetron he used powered up?
                              I mean - is he exposing the PMH to microwave energy in order to see the effect better?
                              Or is it a magnetron (ie from a non-working unit) that is a loose, spare-part?

                              Thanks,
                              -Van
                              the magnetron is not powered, spare part style.....david

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                              • Hi everyone, my thanks to David for being persistent with sharing his info on his device, and helping me understand what I was looking for. As far as the magnetron is concerned, I had one setting on the work bench, and for no other reason other than just a spur-of-the-moment reaction, I sat the wheel on top of it. I had a geode suspended over the wheel from the ceiling with a string. I had seen effects before this; however, this was the first time I had clearly seen what David had described as "heat waves" with no heat. I watched for a while to make sure I wasn't imagining this. After it was evident to me, I contacted the imagery dept where I attend collage, and asked if they would be interested in attempting to film or photograph this reaction. They seemed very interested, but I'm still waiting to hear back from them.

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