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  • harvey

    can you PM jetijs with your info, you are next in line. after that, there is a guy who got ahold of me through my youtube channel who would like to check it out....thanks, david

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    • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
      can you PM jetijs with your info, you are next in line. after that, there is a guy who got ahold of me through my youtube channel who would like to check it out....thanks, david
      Hi David,

      Go ahead and have the new fellow go first, I can wait - who knows, he may be the fellow to finally get it all documented for us

      Cheers,

      Harvey
      "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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      • another way

        i put a 1/4" cube magnet in a jar. i then added ferro fluid till magnet was covered and there was 1/4" of FF in the jar[ a black slippery mess].gravity pulls any FF that the magnet cant hold up. so i have a jar, with a fluid level, and a bulge all around the magnet. at top dead center of the magnet/ FF, is just like a pool or well, but with a level ABOVE the level in the jar. i then very carefully started a siphon from directly above the magnet/FF. i was tricky to do but i THINK i got it to flow. the magnet acts like a wick or capillary, drawing the FF up to a higher point. just as water can be siphoned, as long as the tube is away from the centrifugal force creating the vortex, the siphon will run...david

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        • just as if

          visualize a container of water, in the water is a small pump with a nozzle aiming up. the water does not squirt up, it raises the level of the water in a small area. now there is a difference/potential that can be used. as long as the pump pushes the water up a little, i should be able to siphon the water from the higher to the lower point. the same thing should be able to be done with something porus like a sponge, as long as you have a small well in the sponge for the tube. the trick is to slow the flow down to match the capillary action of the sponge [pulling the water up].....david

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          • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
            David,

            Very cool!

            Here is a link where to get them for those interested:

            Twister Tube

            IndianaBoys

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            • suggestions?

              i am trying to find someone in my area, with a gas finder series FLIR camera. they cost in the 10s of thousands, i just need to image my device first, if there is anything interesting, get a recording of it. i would like any suggestions....thanks, david

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              • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                i am trying to find someone in my area, with a gas finder series FLIR camera. they cost in the 10s of thousands, i just need to image my device first, if there is anything interesting, get a recording of it. i would like any suggestions....thanks, david
                David,

                Home inspectors use this. Maybe their is one in your area that uses a Flir.

                Also used as a preventive maintenance tool in industrial plants.

                Maybe your area has an industrial sector you can check with.

                Power company uses them to check their lines and transformers as well.

                IndianaBoys

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                • ferro fluid + magnet + saturation

                  if i suspend a 1/2" cylinder neo magnet by a string and dip it into ferro fluid, i can saturate it to the point that it will not hold any more. add a drop and a drop will fall off, gravity having full effect. OK, now if i add a stack of 10 -1/8" cylinder neo magnets, it is like having a stream, leading to a pond. the small magnets allow the fluid to flow UP to the larger one. the same saturation occurs, if i add a drop, a drop flows off, AND if i use an eye dropper, and pull a drop off, a drop will flow up to replace it. because of this fact, a siphon CAN be started and a continuous flow will take place in the tube. a porous material like earth will do the same thing with water. if you had a large container with a cone shaped island, with water in it, added water till there is some standing in the low end, you could make a well at the highest point. the water level in the well will be higher than at the outer water level, so a slow siphon could be made there too. a valve could be used to adjust the flow out so as not to exceed the wells refill rate, making a continuous flow. this does not bother any physical laws, but rather embraces them. this would mean in a closed system [no evaporation], this system should keep a constant flow forever, gravity being the engine. a continuous flow of water through a tube. natures wheelwork. we know how a water table will raise water, and the physics of a siphon to make it flow in a tube, downward. the only thing is there must be a starting action, but it will flow as long as there is water in system....david............ also, thanks indiana boys for your suggestions
                  Last edited by david lambright; 06-11-2011, 08:31 AM.

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                  • expirement

                    i had a limited amount of ferro fluid but was able to achieve constant flow. the way i did this was to submerge the siphon tube, then carefully keeping both ends in the fluid, bring the inlet of the tube to the top of the magnet/ferro fluid. by keeping the outlet in the fluid, it does not matter if the inlet gets too close to the magnet. then i carefully raised the inlet to the surface of the fluid and absolutely got a constant flow of FF through the tube. if i narrowed the inlet it would help, but it worked! if it were not so messy i would try to film it. i ask that anyone trying these experiments use ALL safety precautions/protection. but it did work!........david

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                    • Hi David.
                      I am back from my trip to sensitives. They say that this device I have here has no energy in it anymore, if I energize it for a bit, there is a field present, but it fades away fast as the lock does not hold the peices together firmly enough I guess it has become loose when shipped and the lock is broken. Unfortunately I had only an AA battery at hand there and this could not energize it fully. Perhaps I should send it back to you to see if you can still see anything yourself. Maybe others don't see anything because the lock is broken, if you will still see the effect on this device, then it is either of two things - either you have a special gift and see the effect as well as others around you, or it is your location that gives the effect
                      It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                      • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                        i had a limited amount of ferro fluid but was able to achieve constant flow. the way i did this was to submerge the siphon tube, then carefully keeping both ends in the fluid, bring the inlet of the tube to the top of the magnet/ferro fluid. by keeping the outlet in the fluid, it does not matter if the inlet gets too close to the magnet. then i carefully raised the inlet to the surface of the fluid and absolutely got a constant flow of FF through the tube. if i narrowed the inlet it would help, but it worked! if it were not so messy i would try to film it. i ask that anyone trying these experiments use ALL safety precautions/protection. but it did work!........david
                        Hi David, I think you may be on to something there

                        The two primary forces you are working with are magnetism and gravity and the secondary forces are cohesion and adhesion.

                        The secret here is to ensure that the weight of the fluid in the tube below the top arc has a greater force than the combined attraction of magnetism, cohesion and adhesion at the top of the magnet and in the tube. If so, then it should siphon and the magnets should keep the upward flow active. So make sure the lengths are as long as practical as this will increase the weight in the tube. The diameter of the tube will function as a restriction to flow (or a clamp also could be used on a flexible tube) to make adjustments to match the natural magnetic upward flow of the material.

                        Once this begins working, you will have successfully split both fields into non-conservative parts where energy can be extracted. Then something as simple as a winding around the siphon tube can be used as the "clamp" instead and electricity can be transformed from the motion of fluid flowing through the middle in a pulse mode (you need changing flux for the induction) like a magnet being dropped down a copper tube. That then gives you a constant power generator.

                        I suspect for best operation, the interior of the tube should be as low friction and adhesion as possible - perhaps Teflon would be a good material for that, but other materials may work better IDK.

                        For the best neutral location for the suction end, place it midpoint on the magnet stack - that will be neutral between the two pole ends and will be the best location for fluid take off. A small pad of Teflon or similar between the mouth of the tube and the magnet may help reduce the adhesion of the oil to the magnet surface thus facilitating a better release in that area as well.

                        I envisaged a gravity flow device many years ago using wicks to lift fluid from a low reservoir to a series of smaller reservoirs feeding the next higher successively but I couldn't get the fluid to drip off the end of the wicks the way I wanted to and eventually decided a vapor system would work better based on pressure and boiling points. But of course that turned out to be a thermodynamic system rather than an adhesion system.

                        Keep up the good work!

                        "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                        • hey

                          the amount of flow that i was able to get was ridiculously small but there was flow!.........david

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                          • Eds 18,000 pound gate

                            balanced so well, one finger is all it takes to start the whole mass in motion. with a tube, say 100 meters in length, each meter when filled with water weighs 100 kilos. 100 x 100 = 10,000 kilos. if the tube is set up like a water level, water added to one side causes the other side to rise. if set up as a siphon tube, its analog would be a long tray with earth and water, pools will form, and if the whole tray is tipped up on one end, slightly, any water in pools will seek equilibrium by flowing down, gravity being the motive force. imagine a tube that you could increase the diameter and length like magic. and an infinite pool that could divide into smaller pools, or siphon from. so you fill up your tube, keep one end lower and water will flow as long as there is a pool or reserve. now with ferro fluid, if a neo magnet is put in it, it will flow all over the magnets till they they are saturated. if a stack of small magnets, [stream], is set into an inverted "L", then a large neo can be used as a pool. instead of the inlet being on top, a small funnel is set UNDER the neo/ pool. the tube is now set into an "S" shape and a flow started. as the magic tubes diameter is increased, volume increases. if there is a decrease in diameter the water flows faster. so gravity can be used as motive power, like a pump. a centrifugal pump is really an artificial gravity pump. ferro fluid will flow UP a magnet till it is covered or saturated. anywhere on the surface of the FF sphere is exactly the same as the surface of the FF in the bottom of the container. harvey had it just right, the easiest place to siphon from is between the poles at the bloch point. another analogy is like having a 1000 kilo bar balanced on an atom. any weight added to one side would start it tipping till it was in free fall. the weight of one atom or even less would start the cascade till all 1000ks are one one side of the single atom balance point. so what i am getting at is you CAN have a recirculating flow of ferro fluid in a closed system, using magnets/ gravity as the motive forces. this is the closest to over-unity i have got so far but with this setup, like harvey said, i can drive a water type wheel. another analogy is a magnet is opposite of a spinning centrifuge pump, pulling the FF to the center. i believe Ed found a method to make a circulating flow of magnetic current in OUR closed system, earth......david

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                            • What did Ed do?

                              David-
                              All very interesting and a potential new system for extracting energy from gravity. However, I have to ask: do you think this is what Ed was working on? I know it's exciting to forge ahead with your own new research but Ed didn't use fero-fluid so how did HE use his device to move massive stones and generate a flow of magnets?
                              There is a lot more to be learned about this new 'pure' energy!
                              -Van (peace)

                              Originally posted by david lambright View Post
                              balanced so well, one finger is all it takes to start the whole mass in motion. with a tube, say 100 meters in length, each meter when filled with water weighs 100 kilos. 100 x 100 = 10,000 kilos. if the tube is set up like a water level, water added to one side causes the other side to rise. if set up as a siphon tube, its analog would be a long tray with earth and water, pools will form, and if the whole tray is tipped up on one end, slightly, any water in pools will seek equilibrium by flowing down, gravity being the motive force. imagine a tube that you could increase the diameter and length like magic. and an infinite pool that could divide into smaller pools, or siphon from. so you fill up your tube, keep one end lower and water will flow as long as there is a pool or reserve. now with ferro fluid, if a neo magnet is put in it, it will flow all over the magnets till they they are saturated. if a stack of small magnets, [stream], is set into an inverted "L", then a large neo can be used as a pool. instead of the inlet being on top, a small funnel is set UNDER the neo/ pool. the tube is now set into an "S" shape and a flow started. as the magic tubes diameter is increased, volume increases. if there is a decrease in diameter the water flows faster. so gravity can be used as motive power, like a pump. a centrifugal pump is really an artificial gravity pump. ferro fluid will flow UP a magnet till it is covered or saturated. anywhere on the surface of the FF sphere is exactly the same as the surface of the FF in the bottom of the container. harvey had it just right, the easiest place to siphon from is between the poles at the bloch point. another analogy is like having a 1000 kilo bar balanced on an atom. any weight added to one side would start it tipping till it was in free fall. the weight of one atom or even less would start the cascade till all 1000ks are one one side of the single atom balance point. so what i am getting at is you CAN have a recirculating flow of ferro fluid in a closed system, using magnets/ gravity as the motive forces. this is the closest to over-unity i have got so far but with this setup, like harvey said, i can drive a water type wheel. another analogy is a magnet is opposite of a spinning centrifuge pump, pulling the FF to the center. i believe Ed found a method to make a circulating flow of magnetic current in OUR closed system, earth......david

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                              • jet

                                Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
                                Hi David.
                                I am back from my trip to sensitives. They say that this device I have here has no energy in it anymore, if I energize it for a bit, there is a field present, but it fades away fast as the lock does not hold the peices together firmly enough I guess it has become loose when shipped and the lock is broken. Unfortunately I had only an AA battery at hand there and this could not energize it fully. Perhaps I should send it back to you to see if you can still see anything yourself. Maybe others don't see anything because the lock is broken, if you will still see the effect on this device, then it is either of two things - either you have a special gift and see the effect as well as others around you, or it is your location that gives the effect
                                i am sorry you did not get to experience the distortion of the visual field around the device, i will get the info from the next in line, an address to send it to. in the mean time you might try re-energizing it with a 12 volt battery and a compass? there are many replicators that have seen/ felt the same things, there is something important in this distortion field. whenever the temperature in a room changes, like if you lit a lighter and held it for 30 seconds or so, the upward energetic flow distorts our wiew,[like a mirage]. the flow of energy must overcome the pull of gravity. the distortion we see in heat and around these devices, it is like 2 waves intersecting perfectly[ambient temperature]. temperature/ heat causes one wave to flow faster, this causes an interference/cancellation type wave that distorts the image when viewed through it. Eds device starts a flow of energy that just like heat, can dissipate slowly or like lighting a lighter into a tube, the flow is concentrated and circulates. with temperature, once the flow starts, it moves towards entropy. with Eds devices, i believe that he found a way to start a flow of energy to a non entropic state, the finite level being the speed of light. analogy..a "U" shaped tube filled with water. the open ends, at the same level, a drop added to one side will come out the other. even an atom added will have an atom taken away. now bring one end of the tube down, flow increases. when the tube is straight, energy flows at a maximum 186,000 mps. light speed......david

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