C.o.p. >1

[Inquorate]

you make an interesting point, witsend. It's the kind of experimenting I love; not just building new circuits, but fiddling with dials, watching the 'scope, and joining the dots for the best gains.

When the 'newborn' becomes a 'baby', I'll come back on board..
If all we get out of this is a battery charger that is 90% efficient, that's very very good.

But I believe we can get overunity, cop>1, etc..

Disjointed post, I know. Just wanted to pop in and say thankyou.

[Inquorate]

Groundloop posted his self oscillating charger on overunity cop > 1 forum

If and when I get time I'll do a battery swap and see if still ou, unless someone beats me to it

@ Groundloop - I tried to say thanks there but it didn't work.

[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

One other positive factor with this circuit is that when the battery
starts to gain full charge then the battery voltage climbs. If the input
voltage is adjusted correct (a little higher than the fully loaded battery) then
the charger automatic starts to be an trickle charger. The current goes
down again because of the less voltage difference between the input
and the battery voltage. This is a VERY good feature because this
prevent the charge battery of being over charged. Nice. :-)

Groundloop.

[Inquorate]

How can I delay the voltage spike from secondary of bifilar coil to increase charge time?

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YouTube - can I delay a second voltage spike to increase charge time?


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How can I delay the voltage spike from secondary of bifilar coil to increase charge time? - Vox

[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

I'm working on a solution by using one NPN and one PNP transistor.
It will be a oscillator circuit. I will use one diode and one electrolytic
capacitor on the third coil. Then I will use the PNP to dump the charge
to the charge battery. It work like this: At the positive triggering on
the NPN the third coil will positive charge the capacitor. Then the NPN
base goes negative as the coils flips the polarity and the third coil
also flips polarity. The diode is now closed and the PNP is open and
is dumping the charge. I hope it will work this way.......... LOL



I have started to build this circuit but is currently waiting for some Tech7
to cure. I will probably have the circuit up and running tomorrow.

Groundloop.

[Inquorate]

@ groundloop - it's a crazy kind of challenge, dreaming up unconventional circuit configs, using phenomena normally suppressed etc..

But if the spike was increasing charge efficiency along with increased time that the battery is exposed to a voltage field, then another one slightly delayed aught to help even more.

It's a pleasure working with you on this

[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

I agree, I have not tried to make such "crazy" circuits before. But if
we do not try out new ideas then we will never succeed to create anything.
Anyway, it is a fun hobby to play with electronics. I will keep you updated
on the new circuit.

I have also tested the "old" circuit on a 12 Volt 7 Ampere lead acid gel battery.
The battery was in very bad condition, heavy plate sulfate, and a start
voltage of only 4 volt. I have been using 15 Volt at 0,13 Ampere as input.
Charger has been running all day now and the battery is coming to life again.
So the "old" circuit is also good for removing sulfate from the battery.

We should really start to find proper names for our circuits. LOL
Like, Charger Mark 1, or something............ :-)

Groundloop.

[Inquorate]

i'm looking forward to seeing how 'Ion Inertial Charger V2' (IIC2) works, lol

Kudos on delaying the second spike (touch wood it works, otherwise we'll investigate carlos benitez's patents), i've been trying to figure that out for ages.

[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

I have got the circuit up and running now, sort of.

I'm having trouble to get the circuit to run at a low frequency.
The transistors are good up to approx. 2MHz and the core up
to approx. 800KHz, but the circuit is emitting radio frequency
at 17,8 freaking MHz. This should be impossible with this setup.



It was not my plan to make a radio transmitter. LOL
Can anybody explain how it is possible to make high frequency RF
with components suited for just low frequency operation?

Groundloop.

[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

I'm having problems with this circuit. I get it to run when I use a 22 Ohm
resistor as a load but the oscillator will not run when I use a charge battery.
I will look more into this problem and see if I can fix it.

Groundloop.

[tjnlsn255]

I think is has something to do with the resistance of the coils verses the resistance of the battery.... impendence matching .... like the output of a stereo amp to the speakers on an audio system....

What is the resistance of you coil(s)?

Just a thought.....

Hopes and Dreams.....

Tj

[Groundloop]

@tjnlsn255,

The DC resistance of my coils are approx. 0,1 Ohm.

I think the problem is that when I connect a charge battery (of approx 12
volt) the output then increase the emitter voltage by 12 volt.
The trigger coil can't make more than approx. 12 volt pulses so i get
canceling out the trigger signal. The main problem is that there is no "real"
ground in this circuit. I think the solution is to lift the base up in voltage
when the oscillator runs. But this will interfere with the PNP operations.
Not a easy circuit to get to work.

Groundloop.

[Inquorate]

possible scr + ne2 solution? - Vox

@ Groundloop - you know more than me but what if we merged the cap pulser with your oscillator?? Surely the neon and cap will delay the second spike for long enough? Otherwise a resistor as well, and look at it on a scope..

Sorry that i've no time to build.

[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

It may work if you inductive voltage spike is higher than 65 Volt.
(A Neon bulb need minimum 65 Volt to trigger.)

Groundloop.

[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

The updated circuit posted above (This thread post #35) is working.
The circuit efficiency is 50% and it waste some heat when the input
is approx. 5 Watt. So all in all not a good circuit. I think we must use
mosfets to get some good performance. It does charge my battery, though.

Groundloop.