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[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

I have retested my Radiant Voltage Amplifier circuit and think that this
circuit might be what you are looking for.



This circuit will give an voltage output that is approx. ten times the
voltage input(or more). The circuit is fast to make and have few parts.
The Germanium diodes is not a must, you can use other parts and still
get the circuit to perform.



The coils needs more turn than in the shown circuit drawing if you want
to run the circuit at higher input voltages. With the exact circuit shown,
the oscillator will run at 1 volt input and still have a good voltage output.

The RVA works like this:

The oscillator are coils L1 and L2 together with the transistor. Almost any
NPN transistor will work OK here. But if you want some current in the switch,
then a TO-220 device will do fine. The bias to start the oscillator comes
from the bias resistor. This resistor will set the bias voltage on the base.
The capacitor size will determine the AC coupling for the oscillator.

Now, the two Toroid cores has a coil L3 between them. When this coil
is energized then there is a AC coupling between the two Toroid, else not.
At every time the transistor shuts off, then the L2 coil collapses and
give out a high voltage pulse. This pulse is coupled via a diode back
to the plus input terminal to save power. But at the same time there is
a path for energy to flow to the second toroid. This will energized the
L4 coil and thus provide a high voltage output. The number of turns on
the L4 coil will set the output voltage.

If you want just a pulsed DC output then only one diode can be used on
the L4 coil instead of a diode bridge as shown.

This circuit can be tuned by finding the correct turns for the L3 coil.
I have not tried this yet but will test tuning soon.

Groundloop.

[nilrehob]

I was looking through some diagrams i have been collecting and saw this one,
I don't remember from where I got it but I thought it fits in this thread.
According to the text, the left one is vanilla and will not gain energy,
but the right one will gain energy and batteries can be swapped.
Looks like your circuit, Inquorate?



/Hob

[Inquorate]

yep, that's essentially it. Mine follows the emitter, Ossie's precedes the collector.

That makes energy gain of the circuit ''independently verified'' IMO.

Thankyou for sharing Hob, no doubt people will mostly not duplicate/replicate, but demand others do tests on the batteries running loads etc, and cry ''impossible'' anyway .. Errata erratum.

I hope some people do experiment, and swap batteries from series position to parallel position.

My next project is to make a torch for my Dad to use on his farm, could take a while to get round to it but will share when it's done.

[nilrehob]

I have been thinking about the article i mentioned to you (New Energy Technologies, # 11 , Issue #2 March April 2003, nr 11).
Compare the vacuum tube in the article with the charging battery+coil in your circuit,
instead of getting electrons into motion you get ions in the battery into motion.

We just want the potential to get the ions going, not the current,
so i guess the more charging batteries in parallel the better.

I bet your circuit will not work with caps in any way, as caps and batteries work in different ways.
The mantra "exchange the batteries with caps to prove OU" is shooting yourself in the foot IMHO.

/Hob

[witsend]

yep, that's essentially it. Mine follows the emitter, Ossie's precedes the collector.

That makes energy gain of the circuit ''independently verified'' IMO.

Thankyou for sharing Hob, no doubt people will mostly not duplicate/replicate, but demand others do tests on the batteries running loads etc, and cry ''impossible'' anyway .. Errata erratum.

I hope some people do experiment, and swap batteries from series position to parallel position.

My next project is to make a torch for my Dad to use on his farm, could take a while to get round to it but will share when it's done.

Wonderful stuff inquorate. I definitely need to take a leaf out of your book. EXCELLENT LESSONS on every possible level.

[nilrehob]

Well, since the modification is so small,
all bedini ssg motors and ss ssg circuits can easily be modified right away to verify the principle.



As soon as I have the chance to do stuff hands on i will try this modification.
I'm just surprised i didn't realized this earlier

/Hob

[Inquorate]

Wonderful stuff inquorate. I definitely need to take a leaf out of your book. EXCELLENT LESSONS on every possible level.

Thanks witsend

My dad instilled in me the ''it's nice, but what can it do?'' mentality; and all i did is just follow the evidence and use my brain, free of preconceptions where possible..

Well, since the modification is so small,
all bedini ssg motors and ss ssg circuits can easily be modified right away to verify the principle.



As soon as I have the chance to do stuff hands on i will try this modification.
I'm just surprised i didn't realized this earlier

/Hob

You've got it Hob, and yes, any SSG will do the work, a la overunity. I'm sure Bedini has been hoping people will figure it out eventually..

Love and light to all, supporters and detractors all.. It is a wonderful game we play, this life.

''we see so far, because we stand on the shoulders of giants''

[nilrehob]

Inquorate, this is very exiting, thanks for making me aware of it!



/Hob

[Xenomorph]

Quick question:
This DOES need pairs of batteries to work?
Or would it work with a single supply and a single charge battery too?

[nilrehob]

You just have to have higher voltage on the B1+B2 than on the B3+B4.

But I guess standard would be two on B1+B2 and whatever on B3+B4,
although I guess as many on B3+B4 as possible is preferable.

/Hob

[smw1998a]

Well, since the modification is so small,
all bedini ssg motors and ss ssg circuits can easily be modified right away to verify the principle.



As soon as I have the chance to do stuff hands on i will try this modification.
I'm just surprised i didn't realized this earlier

/Hob

Hello All,
I built a circuit similar to inqurate's several years ago while trying to reduce current in a mechanical Tesla switch. Anyway, the SSG conversion is an ideal way to evaluate the configuration. I wrote a paper recently regarding the SSG and in particular the rise time of the coil and the switching off of the transistor.

What_Turns_The_Transistor_Off.pdf.
I hope you find it useful.

Regards Lee.

[Inquorate]

Quick question:
This DOES need pairs of batteries to work?
Or would it work with a single supply and a single charge battery too?

Pairs; the charge battery's ions get push pull push pull in one direction, and the source gets drain pause drain pause....

Due to the voltage spike, the charge battery charges itself a little, and due to the pause, the source battery's ions retract a little after every tiny pulse.

The difference between the way the ion's inertia is used between the two sets of batteries is why it works. I believe.

[Xenomorph]

Pairs; the charge battery's ions get push pull push pull in one direction, and the source gets drain pause drain pause....

Due to the voltage spike, the charge battery charges itself a little, and due to the pause, the source battery's ions retract a little after every tiny pulse.

The difference between the way the ion's inertia is used between the two sets of batteries is why it works. I believe.

Okay, i will try that out when i find enough batteries that are not negatively conditioned, because that probably wouldnīt work with that diode arrangement.

EDIT: I am running a test now with 4 9-Volt batteries that i used for (not that successful) Tesla switch experiments that were pretty run down, but i charged them normally to ~9 Volt.
Will see what their charge will be like after the test, right now it looks like batt1 and batt2 are behaving like shorted out for the impulse time, just as in the Tesla Switch.

EDIT2: The 9-Volt Batteries were not good enough. They all lost charge during the small test. A proper experiment seems to need 12-Volt SLAs, which i donīt have enough of to spare for the experiment at the moment.

[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

I have made a mosfet version of your circuit. This circuit has almost no loss
at all and runs cool to the touch.

The input voltage must be higher than the charge battery voltage for the
oscillator to run. The PCB image shows a 100K pot meter but this can be a
fixed 100K resistor. The best input voltage (when I charge a 7 amp. 12 volt
battery) is 16,5 volt.


I hope that this circuit can be of any use.

Groundloop.

[Xenomorph]

Nice small circuit and clean build groundloop!
I think MOSFETs are the way to go.
The transistors might just allow too much current to flow for a too long time.
I wonder if it is possible to downsize Bediniīs new tesla charger
to a smaller version for a single <10 AH SLA to be charged.
For that i guess it would just be one MOSFET behind each
Opto/transistor and a smaller cap bank.
The IRF260 seems to be 200V/46A, so that can be also a much less
powerful one.