C.o.p. >1

[Groundloop]

@Xenomorph,

Thanks. :-)

I agree on the mosfets. This little circuit can "push" a lot of amps.

I have already built a pic micro version of the circuit you posted.
It had a RS232 so that you could adjust the frequencies and duty cycle
from a menu on the PC. I have compressed the design files and firmware
and posted them on my web site if you want to take a look.

http://home.no/ufoufoufoufo/Updated_BcapSW.rar

Groundloop.

[Xenomorph]

Amazing!
Bediniīs circuit wasnīt so clear to understand itīs functionality at first glance, but yours gives a good insight.
If i did not misunderstand it, it is rumored that Bedini somehow modified his transistors (FETS?) to have a non-linear characteristic by putting some mineral on top of them and connecting it to a pin.

[witsend]

Groundloop - your work is simply brilliant. I love the simplicity that both you and Inquorate manage - to get to the heart of the argument. Really blow away material guys.

I'm reminded of RJ MITCHELL - who designed the spitfire. Absolute genius of a man. He's famously known for saying that if anyone tries to promote something that's 'so bloody complicated that you cannot understand it, take it from me it's all balls'. How's that for straight shooting? LOL

[Groundloop]

@Xenomorph,

John Bedini is a brilliant designer. I would not surprise me that he did
modify his transistors.

@witsend,

Thank you for your nice words. :-)

@All,

BRAKING NEWS!

I dusted off two old 7 A 12 V GEL batteries. One had 4 Volt in it, the other
had 6 Volt. Then I connected the circuit as shown in this drawing.



I adjusted the 100K pot meter very close to NIL Ohm. So the bias is 180
+ some unknown Ohm. I have checked that the oscillator run by using
my RF spectrum analyzer. (Sort of a radio receiver with a PC interface.)

When I started the oscillator the combined voltage was 10.36 Volt.
Now, a 1/2 hour later the voltage is 10,48 and still climbing. I have
voltage checked each battery and they both climb in voltage.

I may be that both batteries are just de-sulfateing but right now this
setup is COP >1.

I will let this circuit run for some hours (or days) to see if the charging
will continue.

Groundloop.

[witsend]

@Xenomorph,

John Bedini is a brilliant designer. I would not surprise me that he did
modify his transistors.

@witsend,

Thank you for your nice words. :-)

@All,

BRAKING NEWS!

I dusted off two old 7 A 12 V GEL batteries. One had 4 Volt in it, the other
had 6 Volt. Then I connected the circuit as shown in this drawing.



I adjusted the 100K pot meter very close to NIL Ohm. So the bias is 180
+ some unknown Ohm. I have checked that the oscillator run by using
my RF spectrum analyzer. (Sort of a radio receiver with a PC interface.)

When I started the oscillator the combined voltage was 10.36 Volt.
Now, a 1/2 hour later the voltage is 10,48 and still climbing. I have
voltage checked each battery and they both climb in voltage.

I may be that both batteries are just de-sulfateing but right now this
setup is COP >1.

I will let this circuit run for some hours (or days) to see if the charging
will continue.

Groundloop.

WOW. THERE YOU GO GUYS. THIS IS TRULY AMAZING.



VERY WELL DONE INDEED GROUNDLOOP AND INQUORATE - FOR BRINGING THIS ABOUT.

[IndianaBoys]

Amazing!
Bediniīs circuit wasnīt so clear to understand itīs functionality at first glance, but yours gives a good insight.
If i did not misunderstand it, it is rumored that Bedini somehow modified his transistors (FETS?) to have a non-linear characteristic by putting some mineral on top of them and connecting it to a pin.

Xenomorph,

I believe you are referring to information that can be found in a Bedini DVD:

TRANSMUTATION

PART 18

TRANSMUTATION
Lifting the Veil

Dialogues with JOHN BEDINI

In 1927, Walter Russell presented to 1,000 of the world's top scientists his book "The Universal One," A book that took seven years to write.

In it he laid bare the amazing secrets of nature that man had sought for through centuries of patient research and tireless experiment. In the charts, for example, Russell showed how man can produce nature's elements in exactly the way nature itself produces them. He made known to the world in 1927 the existence of two radioactive elements which have become the basis of atomic energy, and in 1929 the two hydrogen isotopes which have become the basis of heavy water and the H-bomb.

Nikola Tesla, Thomas Edison, Thomas Watson (then-President of IBM) and numerous other luminaries studied with Russell, and Tesla opined that the work was so advanced that it needed to be "locked up for 1,000 years as mankind was not ready for it."

Coached by an enigmatic and renegade Intelligence agent, John Bedini studied Russell's works, and initially applied it to his quest to give his Hi-Fi business a competitive advantage in the industry in the '80s. After exhaustive experimentation on the bench, John was producing "crystals" with bizarre acoustic properties that were also gating in energy from the vacuum that he harnessed for amplification purposes.

In this DVD, following on from the introduction he gave us in the DVD "Petrovoltaics," John Bedini step by step retraces the application of Russell's knowledge to his production of his unique "power crystals." These Tom Bearden refers to as Prigogine crystals, after the late Nobelist physicist Ilya Prigogine, who was comfortable with the concept of extraction of energy from the vacuum.

Bedini also shows how gold, rubies and silver were often the unwitting byproduct of his transmutation experiments, results that for the most part can be predicted from Russell's science.

This DVD helps clear up one of the biggest "mysteries" of all time. How did the alchemists create gold? And from what?

Best regards,

IndianaBoys

[nilrehob]

BRAKING NEWS!

I dusted off two old 7 A 12 V GEL batteries. One had 4 Volt in it, the other
had 6 Volt. Then I connected the circuit as shown in this drawing.

...

I may be that both batteries are just de-sulfateing but right now this
setup is COP >1.

I will let this circuit run for some hours (or days) to see if the charging
will continue.

Groundloop.

[Groundloop]

@All,

The voltage over the batteries is now 10,87 Volt. The oscillator is still
running but the voltage climb has leveled out. The voltmeter is showing
no change in the reading. I will let the circuit run a few more hours.
In any case, this test proves that the circuit is very close to 100% efficiency.

The log is too long and boring to post here. I have uploaded the test log
to my web site: http://home.no/ufoufoufoufo/CLOSED%20LOOP%20TEST.txt
I will update this txt file as long as I'm running this test.

Groundloop.

[Inquorate]

@All,

The voltage over the batteries is now 10,87 Volt. The oscillator is still
running but the voltage climb has leveled out. The voltmeter is showing
no change in the reading. I will let the circuit run a few more hours.
In any case, this test proves that the circuit is very close to 100% efficiency.

Groundloop.

Sweet!

No circuit can be 100% efficient, and batteries we are told discharge 60-80% efficiency, and charge at 60-80% ... so where is the extra energy coming from?

How can we amplify the effect?

@ groundloop - brilliant

[Groundloop]

@Inquorate,

Thanks. :-)

The "effect" seems to happen at low voltages and current. I do not fully
understand the circuit yet because I do not have a o-scope right now.
So I need to do some more measurements to see how the circuit works.
Both batteries is gaining voltage. But remember that this was two batteries
that had not been used for a long time. The start voltages was very low
and the batteries was most probably heavy sulfated. That said, it is very
clear that the system is running COP>1 as it runs now. And it have been
running COP>1 for many hours now. I have been researching free energy
for 10 years now and this is the very first time I have seen a behavior like
this in a circuit. I just hope that the charging will go on for some days.
If this is a real OU process then I see no problem in scaling up the circuit.

Groundloop.

[Xenomorph]

@Inquorate,

Thanks. :-)

The "effect" seems to happen at low voltages and current. I do not fully
understand the circuit yet because I do not have a o-scope right now.
So I need to do some more measurements to see how the circuit works.
Both batteries is gaining voltage. But remember that this was two batteries
that had not been used for a long time. The start voltages was very low
and the batteries was most probably heavy sulfated. That said, it is very
clear that the system is running COP>1 as it runs now. And it have been
running COP>1 for many hours now. I have been researching free energy
for 10 years now and this is the very first time I have seen a behavior like
this in a circuit. I just hope that the charging will go on for some days.
If this is a real OU process then I see no problem in scaling up the circuit.

Groundloop.

Once you can exclude desulphation voltage-rise,
this will become interesting.
I obtained all necessary circuit components to replicate your circuit today
and will experiment with it tomorrow.

[Groundloop]

@Xenomorph,

The capacitor I used was a Ceramic cap. I twisted the two wires with
a electric drill before I put the wire onto the core. The toroid core has a
outer diameter of 38mm. I found the core in an old computer power supply.

I'm not able to exclude desulphation voltage-rise yet. The oscillator did
stop running during the night. I had to remove the input diode to get the
oscillator to start again. This is a strong indication of charge depletion
in the batteries. I will let the circuit run for another day or so to see
if the voltages will continue to climb.

Looking forward to your build and tests. It is a good circuit anyway for
pulse charging, and the circuit is able to cycle some few amperes when
charging larger batteries from a power supply.

Groundloop.

[Inquorate]

Once you can exclude desulphation voltage-rise,
this will become interesting.
I obtained all necessary circuit components to replicate your circuit today
and will experiment with it tomorrow.

My batteries are new, barring the damaged one. None were sulfated.. It should become interesting

[baroutologos]

good news so far Groundloop,

In my setup ( a couple pages described) i cannot witness any COP>1. Lets be patient and see how it evolves.

[smw1998a]

Ossie's MSG circuit

Hello all,
I have recently converted a small SSG to Ossie's MSG circuit. Firstly, as mentioned previously, the conversion is very straight forward and worth the effort. I have had time to observe closely the benefits of the MSG circuit and can confirm a tangible efficiency of 83%, I say tangible because that is what the analysis suggests. Too early in the day to confirm this via load tests but I do plan to carry out continual load tests on the MSG circuit.

Initial analysis has shown a 150% increase in current to the charge bank compared with the standard SSG circuit configuration, solely from the additional current seen by the charge bank during the coil charge. This current increased significantly depending on the strength of the rotor magnets and adjustments in base resistance.

Regards Lee...