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  • As I have learned over the years...if there is no good reasons for a policy or action, then start looking for the bad reasons.
    These people in charge are not stupid, and so stupidity is not the reason why they are making these stupid choices.
    If they are steering people into harms way it is because they mean to do people harm.
    Then they try to make it look like a stupid mistake.

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    • JIb/ALL Check it
      YouTube - AU 60 Minutes BP Oil Spill Video, 13 June 2010, Removed by BP Demand Part 1

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      • Oil-coated baby dolphin carried to shore by tourist dies (VIDEO); “Dolphin was crying” as “people scraped oil off”, Coast Guard unclear on cause of death
        Are they kidding....unclear as to cause of death.
        And the millions of fish, birds and mammals also dying is what.... a big mystery?
        They were fine before the bp bomb went off.
        This just shows what kind of shills these spokespeople and scientists/coastguards really are.
        A necropsy will be performed to determine the cause of the death of an oily young dolphin found beached in a national park in the Florida Panhandle.
        Authorities told the Pensacola News Journal that the dolphin “had some oil on it” but it wasn’t clear why the animal beached itself.
        Rescuers say they say saw oil spots on the dolphin. But scientists can’t yet say whether the dolphin actually died as a result of any oil.

        A necropsy will be performed to determine the cause of death.
        Such a mystery.
        Toxic gas with radioactive compounds, toxic sprays which equals chemical warfare, and then the oil and tar to top it off.

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        • Guys. This has got to be the most depressing subject on this forum. So much so I can hardly read here. I dip in and dip out almost as quickly. I must hand it to you all. It's essential that we are informed about all this. And YET. It's hard to read it and must be as hard for you all to report on it. Tough one. I can only congratulate you all for bringing this to my/our attention. We need to be reminded - lest, like me, I just put it out of mind. This one is way too important.

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          • Hi Rossie/Shawn and ALL

            We may be helpless here but at least we can hurt them with signatures, name email and country, they cant get away with this.

            Ash

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            • Originally posted by witsend View Post
              Guys. This has got to be the most depressing subject on this forum. So much so I can hardly read here. I dip in and dip out almost as quickly. I must hand it to you all. It's essential that we are informed about all this. And YET. It's hard to read it and must be as hard for you all to report on it. Tough one. I can only congratulate you all for bringing this to my/our attention. We need to be reminded - lest, like me, I just put it out of mind. This one is way too important.
              You are right...it is depressing and unpleasant and troubling..........and it cannot be ignored.
              Ever since WWII our grandparents, our parents and ourselves have ignored the troubling things as they are bummers/downers and unpleasant and who wants to think about such things.....right?!
              But we stick our heads into our sandpails to our peril....look where it has gotten us.
              It is like cleaning sewers...if you don't do it because it is unpleasant, soon you are up to you eyeballs in crap.
              Necessary it is.
              Thanks to the others who are posting the news.

              YouTube - BP is Spraying COREXIT over Populated Areas of the Gulf by Night 1/2
              YouTube - BP is Spraying COREXIT over Populated Areas of the Gulf by Night 2/2

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              • Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                Hi Rossie/Shawn and ALL

                We may be helpless here but at least we can hurt them with signatures, name email and country, they cant get away with this.

                Ash
                Hi Ash. LOL I added my signature and am soliciting those of some of my family. You've got a big job there Ashtweth.

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                • Originally posted by shawn View Post
                  You are right...it is depressing and unpleasant and troubling..........and it cannot be ignored.
                  Ever since WWII our grandparents, our parents and ourselves have ignored the troubling things as they are bummers/downers and unpleasant and who wants to think about such things.....right?!
                  But we stick our heads into our sandpails to our peril....look where it has gotten us.
                  It is like cleaning sewers...if you don't do it because it is unpleasant, soon you are up to you eyeballs in crap.
                  Necessary it is.
                  Thanks to the others who are posting the news.

                  YouTube - BP is Spraying COREXIT over Populated Areas of the Gulf by Night 1/2
                  YouTube - BP is Spraying COREXIT over Populated Areas of the Gulf by Night 2/2
                  Indeed. Personally I'm really scared that this gusher will never empty. But that's another place I only dip into and then dip out of. WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN. That's got to be an appropriate theme song for this catastrophe.

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                  • "A mysterious disease has stricken crops in Mississippi and it may be connected to the BP oil gusher. It seems like damage brought by the oil gusher has spread way beyond the ocean, coastal areas and beaches. Collateral damage now appears to include agricultural damage way inland Mississippi. The disease has caused widespread damage to plants from weeds to farmed organic and conventionally grown crops.


                    It is possible that the disease is the result of BP spraying the oil dispersant Corexit 9500 in the Gulf of Mexico. Corexit 9500 is believed to be responsible for widespread reports of oil cleanup crews reporting various injuries including respiratory distress, dizziness and headaches.Dispersant have never been applied on this scale, leaving environmental scientists guessing about the consequences. Corexit may have caused seven cleanup workers to be admitted to the hospital with shortness of breath and nausea.Many have focused their concerns about Corexit… on what it’s doing under the water. But as we know, the oceans are part of a larger precipitation cycle, and scientists are worried that soon the consequences of using dispersants could be falling from the sky,” writes Beth Buczynski for Care2, an environmental website.

                    The EPA asked BP to stop using Corexit, which is banned in 18 countries due to its toxicity, but the oil transnational has refused.The EPA has detected toxicity levels around the Gulf of up to 1000 times safe levels for humans.


                    This is why you need signatures. You have to attack this with the corporation CHARTER, prevent them from using a toxic substance when the environmental one is there. If its not written into a Charter, then the next one will and CAN have it. Plus BP can continue to clean it this way for YEARS

                    The corporation Charter can get done with mandates and class action, its a proven legal way to do it needs no money just support. 1 million signatures can start this.Already have the mandate and class action people there to ACT
                    Vote here please name email and country
                    Panacea Petitions

                    Ash
                    Last edited by ashtweth; 06-29-2010, 08:53 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by shawn View Post
                      Are they kidding....unclear as to cause of death.
                      And the millions of fish, birds and mammals also dying is what.... a big mystery?
                      They were fine before the bp bomb went off.
                      This just shows what kind of shills these spokespeople and scientists/coastguards really are.

                      Such a mystery.
                      Toxic gas with radioactive compounds, toxic sprays which equals chemical warfare, and then the oil and tar to top it off.
                      Something must be done to stop it! What can we do?
                      Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                      http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                      • Originally posted by elias View Post
                        Something must be done to stop it! What can we do?
                        We are getting spammed with signatures, do what Rossie has done , we can make it work for you guys

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                        • Originally posted by witsend View Post
                          Hi Ash. LOL I added my signature and am soliciting those of some of my family. You've got a big job there Ashtweth.

                          PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.

                          "Name: Rosemary Ainslie
                          Location: South Africa
                          Email: ainslie@mweb.co.za
                          check: on
                          message: My wholehearted support for the objectives of this petition."


                          Rose is doing it guys, we can all do it, we have had 100's come in ,
                          Yfrog Image : yfrog.com/mspetitionj Lets get these guys. Thanks Rose. Yes a big job, but i didn't sign up for this job to mess around

                          Ash
                          Last edited by ashtweth; 06-29-2010, 01:04 PM.

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                          • Cnn

                            Hi all,

                            A report today on CNN is that BP are about to start drilling in Alaska a very difficult well to drill. It is to drill straight down and then at 30 degrees to this to tap a very big deposit of crude.

                            Funny that this is now going to happen after the meeting with Obama!!!!!!!!!! who controls who and what is really GOING ON, this is so depressing.

                            I am moving up all the possible designs that I have had in the past and putting them into test/experiment, time is the problem and as so I am calling on others to help with building and testing. I just hope something will come to a finish and not US

                            Mike

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                            • *sighs*

                              This is how it works folks:

                              You create deliberately bogus claims on YouTube to help HIDE the real crimes. Each bogus claim contains a small kernel of Truth; bathed in B-S. When the absurd claim is exposed as BS, that kernel of truth gets buried along with it.

                              Example:

                              Claims that B-P is spraying poisonous dispersant on LAND, are not true; and there is no evidence at all for this. They were spraying it 100 km out to sea (beyond the reach of many US Federal laws regarding pollution). And believe me, this was BAD ENOUGH.

                              In a week or two, someone will get on the MSM and say how absurd all these claims are, and later many people will AUTOMATICALLY DISCOUNT the real claims as bogus too.

                              This trick works for them ALL THE TIME. The first time we saw it used very blatantly and openly was in the 2004 presidential election:

                              Anybody remember "Dan Rather"? He was about the last sticking-up nail in the mainstream media left who hadn't been cowed or corrupted yet. At the time, there were FOUR confirmed stories of reliable witnesses supporting the story that bush didn't bother to do his Texas Air National Guard requirements that kept him out of Viet Nam (and that he got that gig from patronage, "the old boys network", over thousands of others applicants on the sign-up list). FOUR of them; including ranking military officers, and a professor from Harvard who said that bush even bragged about it to him.

                              Well, what they did to KILL that story totally... Was to use a Texas Republican party operative and lawyer, to send a COMPLETELY PHONY story in to Dan Rather's editor. She ran with the story, as the FIFTH proof of bush cheating and lying about his military service. Then, the news came out that this particular "sheep dipped" story was bogus, and they used the media to trumpet that all over... COMPLETELY DISCOUNTING THE FOUR REAL STORIES. All this is verifiable fact now. There is no question this is what happened.

                              Here are the ACTUAL dangers that they are suppressing:

                              Burning the dispersant /oil mix creates highly toxic gasses in the atmosphere. When the winds are from the South, these are blown towards the Gulf coast. When it rains, these are deposited over the land in a blanket; which is the worst manifestation of it. Even when it doesn't rain, the fumes still are dangerous. Since they are NOT water soluable... they can stick around for about a month before breaking up to something a bit less toxic. That stuff is like "toluene" in composition.

                              This is what is likely killing the crops in Mississippi. That should be the "canary in the coal mine" for Public Health; if it kills crops it will kill people and animals too.

                              But so far the national corporate-owned mainstream media is completely ignoring this and has not reported on it. THIS IS A CRIME.

                              There have been a couple.. ASS-COVERING comments made in the Louisiana local news that i have seen; this is where some of the "P-P-M" data has come from. But even locally, this is not getting hardly any reporting (1 minute of AIR TIME, less than the local sports?); nor are the "dots being connected" to give people an idea of the real hazard.

                              What this is quickly becoming imo, is the graveyard of the corporate owned mainstream media... Pushed to being more blatant than usual because their clients the oil corps are getting desperate and starting to panic because they sense the danger of losing control.

                              WE WILL USE THIS to destroy them all.... Put the executives in prison, make sure the talking heads we see on TV are prosecuted, or at least their careers ended forever.

                              When the truth finally comes out about how deadly this airborne poison is... And how they refused to report on a highly important Public Health issue... It will cause a huge anger.

                              Every day the corporate mainstream media refuses to report on the health dangers, is another decade in their prison terms. Even judges and prosecutors will be forced to act here, they will have no choice.

                              They will go down over this. Because that is one straw too many. These media executives will have to change their names, hire security, and never go out. Because you cannot put people's children at risk of death, and not expect EVEN THE SLEEPIEST "SHEEPLE" out there not to react... It is "instinctual" this time. And the people behind this have BADLY miscalculated.

                              But we should look very carefully at EVERY piece of the puzzle here regarding this disaster. Much of it WILL be dis-info. There are horrors and hideous nightmares here enough;

                              WE DON'T NEED "NWO" CRAP MESSING IT UP,

                              muddying the water, turning off thinking people, and giving them excuses to discount all the VERY REAL dangers.
                              Last edited by jibbguy; 06-29-2010, 03:26 PM.

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