Cell Phone Use and Brain Cancer

[john_g]

Microwave meter

Hi
I have an iphone. Using a microwave leakage tester next to the phone while transmitting, the microwave meter pointer cycles between the green area and halfway into the red. However move the meter a few inches away and it has no reading.

[sucahyo]

Not to throw a wrench into anything or disagree, but here is an alternative point of view by some VERY knowledgeable people.

The source of knowledge of those people can give different result. Do those knowledgeable people learn it using knowledge developed in recent 100 years, or they also include knowledge from beyond that?

When you start using some magical device everyday and start noticing illness, you will blame those magical device. When you start using some magical device everyday and start noticing cure, you will praise those magical device. That is how we observe things until modern education force you to think otherwise. We eat drug that make us sicker and still think we are cured now.

The best way is to try it. If I have a headache and some magical device make it disappear even while modern science state the device do practically nothing, not even side effect, I will use it. Explanation can come later.

It is unreasonable by modern science standard that radiant circuit can make you stop sneezing or can make you sleep better. But if it you see it stop your son sneeze, make you sleep excessively, you will ignore modern science and start believing the cast away people.

If those knowledgeable people can not explain what I am experiencing, why should I trust them?

What if the solution by those knowledgeable people wrong? And you still end up in hospital after you buy their expensive solution? And your neighboor with their stupid looking solution is visiting you at hospital with energic health... I am not gonna let that happen. And from my experience with FE I learn that there are things still unexplainable by modern science.

I have an iphone. Using a microwave leakage tester next to the phone while transmitting, the microwave meter pointer cycles between the green area and halfway into the red. However move the meter a few inches away and it has no reading.

Should we trust meter? What if it produce irrelevant reading? For instance, I have a device in front of me that produce thousands of volts work by electron bombarding principle (CRT monitor), volt meter would show nothing, but is it really do not affect health?

Do the meter really metering the danger to our health?

What if the danger is not actually from microwave radiation but something else generated by the cellphone, maybe nuclear radiation or something else?

[Armagdn03]

I think one of the real considerations to ask, is what happens to organisms who live an an environment where the electrical noise floor has been elevated for a lifetime....I think we are finding out, although I do find it curious that tons of radar and microwave technicians aren't perpetually on chemo.

[bolt1]

I have used cellphones maybe longer then anyone else as i helped install, test, survey the very first car phones in the UK back in 1984. Not only but i worked on the tower sites and typical they were 100 watts. Back then the original phones cost in excess of 6k and the power was over 10 watts. The first people to use them were company directors and other high flier businessmen. As an RF microwave engineer i was fully aware of the dangers. Even back then we was told not to stand too close to the antenna. When the convertible kits came out by about 1986/7 these were the "talking bricks" and they were lethal.

The same 10 watts of RF was now available as a transportable pack (as seen on Lethal Weapon and other movies of the era). By 1988 the first hand held phones were out as the Motorola 8000 range with a huge 1/2 wave antennae and a full 4 watts of RF stuck right beside your head.

I was in a meeting sometime around 1989 with some of the world top manufactures and system designers and we was told that within 20 years there would be a global health crisis following the projected plans for cellphones. Back then no one else didn't even have the slightest idea of possible harm.

The government tests are seriously flawed. The manufatures set their OWN tests and submitted these to the govermnet think tanks on how the testing standard should be set....Talk about call the kettle black!

Most of us are smart enough to realize this as the test only look for direct heating effects and not the neurological and DNA damage that a cellphone causes. Not only is the brain hemisphere pretty much resonant to the cellphone band allocations but the DNA helix actually fractures and the ends are terminated by excessive cellphone usage.

But its not just cellphones we live in a highly toxic world now. The background levels of EM pollution is up 20,000 times higher then 30 years ago. No one in the past 10 million years has had to put up with this level of abuse. Sickness is a cumulative effect body stress from the environment and what we eat. Most illness start when the body is demineralized, becomes acidic, exposed to heavy metals and then the icing on the cake is EM pollution.

Auto immune disease is climbing at an alarming rate. We all know someone that has Arthritis, lupus, MS, fibromyalgia, Psoriasis, Crohns etc. Your mainstream doctor will tell you you were just unlucky you "caught it" or its genetic! They dont know **** or if they do they can't and won't say.

[ashtweth]

Does every one here use speaker when on their cell or mobile phone?

Ash

[sucahyo]

If there are bad effect of cellphone, I am more interested to know how to overcome it than any theory that mention how it affect us.

Cellphone is small, I don't think speaker phone will save ourself from other bigger source of EMF. We live around it daily.

If you think EMF is bad. Won't you sad looking someone talking with speaker phone thinking he can be safer from cellphone EMF but at the same time putting a notebook containing internal WIFI antenna with various component work at GHz. Won't you sad that people are walking toward access point, or cellphone transmitter just to get stronger signal? Would you dare to prevent them from using their loved device?

What can you do? Would you prepare to become public enemy by shutting down cellphone transmitter?

Is avoiding technology the right thing to do for everyone? Do you already think that scientist today has no solution for that? Would you trust stranger that bring a solution?

[sucahyo]

non EM solution

The solution bellow do not utilize EM knowledge to shield cellphone radiation. What being shielded is not the EM wave but other radiation that emitted by the cellphone.

The Orgone-ite Minishield X-periment (Yes, it works!) | Orgonise Africa

When I visited Germany in 2005, I got hold of a copy of the magazine NET (Neue Energie Technologien) where a Dr. Grünberg had published a very convincing Experiment for testing a different (based on tachyonised material, I think) “radiation neutraliser” for cellphones.

In his experiment, 3 samples of water were prepared. 1 was radiated with 2 cellphones calling each other without any protection. One was radiated with 2 cellphones with the device to be tested. The thrid samle was kept seperate and not radiated at all.

3 equal samples of sproutable seeds were then watered with the previously prepared water samples.

Interestingly Dr. Grünberg found that the Sample watered with the water that had been radiated with the “protected” cellphones produced better and healthier growth than the totally neutral control sample.

This kind shield can be selfmade cheaply.

[ashtweth]

Do cell phones cook cells?

[ashtweth]

YouTube - Eileen O'Connor

Eileen O'Connor is a spokesperson for Radiation Research Trust. www. radiationresearch.org As a breast cancer survivor she believes cell phone masts are extremely dangerous and her activism against unsafe radiation levels have brought together scientist and world leaders to re-examine outdated government policies. The following short film captures Eileen O'Connor's phone mast campaign.

[ashtweth]

YouTube - biological effect in blood from pulsed electromagnetic fields after 5, 17 and 29 minutes

!!!!!!!!

live blood analysis using a mobile phone for 30 minuts.
Blood samples taken at 5, 17 and 29 minutes interval.
Use nonstop mobile phone to the head for 29 minutes.

The test person (me) didnot use a mobile phone for 24hr before the start of this test.

You can see in this movie:

0:03
First blood tests before using the mobile phone.
The test person started to call with the mobile phone.

0:13
Second blood test after 6 minutes using the mobile phone.
Continuously using the mobile phone

0:50
Then third blood test taken after 17 minutes using the mobile phone.
Continuing using the mobile phone

4:33
And the last test after using the mobile phone for 29 minutes.

The original video was taken in 1 piece uninterupted for 34 minutes .
The video you see here are the clips when the camera turned to the blood test images on the microscope screen.

We used the HC-4000 live microscope.
This test can be repeated and replicated with the same results.
After 17 minutes the blood can be compared with someone with severe flu. Fever.

Here a explanation wat is going on at cell level.
http://hetprobleem.ontheweb.nl

Physicians with knowlegde about blood are free to tell what did they see in this video or contact me to give me an explanation.
http://www.tellme.ontheweb.nl

note:
A lot of Physicians do know what is happening here.
But they are afraid to be "executed" because of the financial power of the telecom industry.
We guarantee them anonymity after giving their information.

They can buy WHO and ICNIRP, but us victims are not for sale!
See this video for a detailed explanation.
Dr. George Carlo in Westminster UK 22.02.2007

This effects are not new. See this repport: http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/geldro...

How the limits are made: NRK Nett-TV - hastighetsmåling


And this
YouTube - Dr. Martin Blank - Electromagnetic Fields and Cancer

[ashtweth]

YouTube - Cellphones and Brain Tumors: 15 Reasons for Concern, Science, Spin and the Truth Behind Interphone

[Cmcgrady]

A cell phone can cause brain cancer,that is terrible.If we use cell phone jammer .That will be serious.

[sucahyo]

live blood analysis using a mobile phone for 30 minuts.
Blood samples taken at 5, 17 and 29 minutes interval.
Use nonstop mobile phone to the head for 29 minutes.

That also explainable with Reichenbach od force combined into Hulda Clark south pole, with solution from orgonists.

A cell phone can cause brain cancer,that is terrible.If we use cell phone jammer .That will be serious.

Just to upset this spammer, cellphone jammer is more dangerous than a cellphone just because it is much more powerfull than cellphone.

[ashtweth]

Some interesting biofeedback tests here
cell phone cell tower radiation video news

[ashtweth]

Interesting
Sympathetic Resonance Technology (SRT):
Scientific Foundation and Summary of
Biological and Clinical Studies

http://www.emfnews.org/drrubik-srt.pdf

From

Sympathetic Resonance Technology Dr Beverly Rubik