How to Move Mountains... Leedskalnin Style

[remelic]

Counter productive is your attitude. Giving acknowledgment to a man for discovering something that was already discovered is the exact same thing you were disgusted with.
The point is that it was in fact done before or the huge monolith we can see any day in Egypt would not exist. That would the the reference to a fricken Big structure built long before our current dogma tells it was built. It was done before and it is proof that the process was much simpler in explanation then any of our greatest minds could jumble up with computations and laws that they define. The definition of those laws should be based off all our understanding not cherry picked like our current system is.
So while you are on the subject of your diatribe or tribute to just a man, What exactly were the bottles for?
I believe they contained water that was running under the pyramids that were charged up. This water has a capacity once separated from the ambient to resist gravitational effects. Since Ed didn't have a huge pyramid that was charging this water how did he do such a thing?
Induction would be my guess. Hence the coils around the bottles. Yes the pmh did focus the energy much like the pyramid did but he needed a vehicle to lift the mass. And that vehicle was exactly the same as the what the elder race used to create the pyramid via much smaller pyramids that were hand assembled. Once they had one that was built from the surrounding materials they could use the water jugs as chargeable lifters. Leyden jars is an old concept.. Probably much older then we know.
So pay compliments to the people that shared these revelation with all and do not keep this stuff buried and hidden from our view. Anyways Ed didn't look for anyone's approval. He was only looking to understand the real reason the pyramids were there. He did try to tell people but as everyone knows the status quo doesn't like free thinkers and they tent to ridicule people for bringing something to light like your attitude.
The one thing that scares me to death is this attitude for me me me. Ed didn't like it either and that is why he buried it. We are not ready for such power. We would only use it to destroy what is left of what we have now. That is the one thing that keeps this cycle going the way it is. Because our collective attitude goes to a point where our fundamental morals are stretched to the breaking point if morals are even in play.
We have let money become our god and that is not right. We want to own things and to tell you the truth how could one own a piece of God. We can never truly own anything much less claim that my observations are mine to be owned by anyone let alone me.
Everyone wants to find this real energy source and to tell you the truth if it is based off of nature then who can patent that? How could I control everything that happens in the universe and try to profit from those revelations. WE HAVE to change our view of ourselves and others if not we will always be fighting over this and that instead of caring for our neighbors and respecting them. We have to understand that if we see something that something happens not because of our doing but it happens because nature lets us by the rules it uses not ours. Whenever we deviate from that idiom we loose sight of God and our morals as well.

Yes I agree that it was discovered before... you are right. Ed doesn't deserve acknowledgment for his discoveries...

Maybe I misunderstood your last post... I agree with what you are saying except what you say about charged water. You don't need a pyramid to charge water... only a magnet... and any water will do.

The bottles are interesting but I don't see them being used on his stones anywhere. Do you have any evidence or is this just a hypotheses? Why do you feel he did it with water? I'm just looking for clarity over this idea because I too thought about it, but I put it aside until I could understand more about it.

Thanks.

[remelic]

i'm not sure if this works in line with your current leedskalnin theory but i do remember boyd bushman saying that by bolting the repulsive side of two powerful magnets together and encasing it within the center of a round object that it fell to the ground slower than another identical object without the magnets inside.

He doesnt go into too many details but here is a link to the video. The part im speaking of starts around 8 minutes in.
David Sereda with Boyd Bushman - Anti-Gravity / UFO Disclosure

So in my mind it is absolute proof that gravity does recongize magnetism in some degree or another.

Great info! I'll have to experiment with this too. Of course magnets should slow the rate of fall but I don't think it is related to Gravity. Yes They appear connected but so far no pushing-force of gravity has been observed. IMO gravity and magnetism are separate forces that need to be in order to maintain structure and conservation but no other forces are required. I have simulated this using the Vector form of Coulomb's Law on a system of discrete charges:



This formula isn't a complete model because it is missing a small amount of gravity for each particle. This is required in order to have like charges stay together.

Awesome.

[Jbignes5]

I believe

Yes I agree that it was discovered before... you are right. Ed doesn't deserve acknowledgment for his discoveries...

Maybe I misunderstood your last post... I agree with what you are saying except what you say about charged water. You don't need a pyramid to charge water... only a magnet... and any water will do.

The bottles are interesting but I don't see them being used on his stones anywhere. Do you have any evidence or is this just a hypotheses? Why do you feel he did it with water? I'm just looking for clarity over this idea because I too thought about it, but I put it aside until I could understand more about it.

Thanks.

I believe Ed used bottles and salt water that is saturated with salt. The salt in the water is a most excellent vessel to carry a charge if the smallest particles relating to charges are included meaning that we have energy or motion due to the smallest particles of salt. To increase the capacity of the water to hold a static charge one would have to have a solution of salt crystals maybe suspended by sand??? in the bottle. It could be that the sand which is a component of glass would help give the bottles mass and move that mass in a super charged way just from the potential between the outside and inside of the bottle. All one would need to do is hook the bottle to the chain via some method and walla anti gravity by creating a static bubble around that bottle that could sustain the charge by being constantly in motion and conducting charges away from the "magnetic" lines he built his castle on. I think these lines are the natural static escape points of our internal static charge in our earth. Obviously whoever built the pyramids knew exactly about those lines and God know how much sand, salt is there.
I believe the pyramids were built to resonate to a specific frequency that allowed the bottles to resonate with the main source like the pyramid. But this resonate condition only fueled the bottles and the internal vibrations from the sand caused great amounts of static to form without conducting them to the outside.
Now this would naturally repel our own static charges from inside of our planet and cause the item to appear like it is floating by having a balanced charge with our own static potential in the area or ley lines.
The device in the top must be hooked up in such a way that it monitors the charges and keeps them balanced so the weight gets negated. It could be that the natural formations in florida were akin to sand and he used the bottles as the source charge and had holes drilled in the sides of the block on all 4 sides. All one would need to do is charge up each end of the block (4 sides) and needed some way to balance those sides while keeping a general capacitance or charge to make sure it had enough on each side to lift equally.
Do you know they found pots in Egypt that are made from a very very hard substance and these could have been charged from the main source (pyramid) and ferried to the special bottles that the Elders used to float those massive objects with. Kinda like a portable static battery.
Now one would still need men to hold or guide these massive blocks but not much weight would be needed. Example Big balloons in a parade.
Also on the subject of Pyramids. I believe that the Ark of the covenant is such a leyden jar on a much larger scale and could have been the tap they used to extract the static energy to the batteries to charge up the bottles.

[Jbignes5]

Great info! I'll have to experiment with this too. Of course magnets should slow the rate of fall but I don't think it is related to Gravity. Yes They appear connected but so far no pushing-force of gravity has been observed. IMO gravity and magnetism are separate forces that need to be in order to maintain structure and conservation but no other forces are required. I have simulated this using the Vector form of Coulomb's Law on a system of discrete charges:



This formula isn't a complete model because it is missing a small amount of gravity for each particle. This is required in order to have like charges stay together.

Awesome.

This one statement might help you with your problem. Magnetism doesn't exist. It is only the comparator of one potential to another. Like charges repel and all other charges attract based on the direction of small little static capacitors found in microscopic salt particles. These microscopic particles are actually smaller then anything we know.
Did you ever question why salt enhances our taste? Or why we absolutely need it to survive? It is the larger version that does so but when reduced to it's smallest dimensions. It is the conductor of every inducement of motion or the transformer that brings motion to all static energy movement.
It is so very simple we have all overlooked this simple fact. Salt is responsible for it all. With water being the medium that it flows in.
I hate wikipedia but this should help you understand.
Piezoelectricity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[david lambright]

keep it up!

This demonstration video may be relevant:

MIT Physics Demo -- Dissectible Capacitor
YouTube - MIT Physics Demo -- Dissectible Capacitor

Best regards,

IndianaBoys

hi guys! you rock! your contribution to all of this is just cool! you KNOW where this going and you are "smoothing the pavement" so to speak, to further and advance this new tech.......many thanks....david

[remelic]

I believe Ed used bottles and salt water that is saturated with salt. The salt in the water is a most excellent vessel to carry a charge if the smallest particles relating to charges are included meaning that we have energy or motion due to the smallest particles of salt. To increase the capacity of the water to hold a static charge one would have to have a solution of salt crystals maybe suspended by sand??? in the bottle. It could be that the sand which is a component of glass would help give the bottles mass and move that mass in a super charged way just from the potential between the outside and inside of the bottle. All one would need to do is hook the bottle to the chain via some method and walla anti gravity by creating a static bubble around that bottle that could sustain the charge by being constantly in motion and conducting charges away from the "magnetic" lines he built his castle on. I think these lines are the natural static escape points of our internal static charge in our earth. Obviously whoever built the pyramids knew exactly about those lines and God know how much sand, salt is there.
I believe the pyramids were built to resonate to a specific frequency that allowed the bottles to resonate with the main source like the pyramid. But this resonate condition only fueled the bottles and the internal vibrations from the sand caused great amounts of static to form without conducting them to the outside.
Now this would naturally repel our own static charges from inside of our planet and cause the item to appear like it is floating by having a balanced charge with our own static potential in the area or ley lines.
The device in the top must be hooked up in such a way that it monitors the charges and keeps them balanced so the weight gets negated. It could be that the natural formations in florida were akin to sand and he used the bottles as the source charge and had holes drilled in the sides of the block on all 4 sides. All one would need to do is charge up each end of the block (4 sides) and needed some way to balance those sides while keeping a general capacitance or charge to make sure it had enough on each side to lift equally.
Do you know they found pots in Egypt that are made from a very very hard substance and these could have been charged from the main source (pyramid) and ferried to the special bottles that the Elders used to float those massive objects with. Kinda like a portable static battery.
Now one would still need men to hold or guide these massive blocks but not much weight would be needed. Example Big balloons in a parade.
Also on the subject of Pyramids. I believe that the Ark of the covenant is such a leyden jar on a much larger scale and could have been the tap they used to extract the static energy to the batteries to charge up the bottles.

Very interesting. Yes the pyramid was a resonator great find! The Ark is a huge capacitor, also a good find. The pyramid may have even held the Ark in the "King's or Queen's" chamber. Salt water in the bottles is an interesting concept and makes sense as it would carry a greater charge then normal water. Using four bottles is also interesting since my sources discuss a four-post concept for this effect... but the "four posts" on each corner are a mystery.

Thanks for sharing.

[remelic]

This one statement might help you with your problem. Magnetism doesn't exist. It is only the comparator of one potential to another. Like charges repel and all other charges attract based on the direction of small little static capacitors found in microscopic salt particles. These microscopic particles are actually smaller then anything we know.
Did you ever question why salt enhances our taste? Or why we absolutely need it to survive? It is the larger version that does so but when reduced to it's smallest dimensions. It is the conductor of every inducement of motion or the transformer that brings motion to all static energy movement.
It is so very simple we have all overlooked this simple fact. Salt is responsible for it all. With water being the medium that it flows in.
I hate wikipedia but this should help you understand.
Piezoelectricity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes I have read that info before, thank you.
Another interesting bit of info, I personally agree with most of what you say. I would need to think about the tiny salt particles before I accept that idea but it may have some basis. I am going to find it VERY hard to believe that "Magnetism does not exist" but you never know. Only with experimentation will this convince me. Perhaps you can offer a link to some more info about salt?

[remelic]

hi guys! you rock! your contribution to all of this is just cool! you KNOW where this going and you are "smoothing the pavement" so to speak, to further and advance this new tech.......many thanks....david

I agree, lets solve this already and build our own pyramids and stone monuments/generators/observatories and what not.
I think it would be thrilling to push a 40-ton stone with your finger to move it along.

[Jbignes5]

Yes I have read that info before, thank you.
Another interesting bit of info, I personally agree with most of what you say. I would need to think about the tiny salt particles before I accept that idea but it may have some basis. I am going to find it VERY hard to believe that "Magnetism does not exist" but you never know. Only with experimentation will this convince me. Perhaps you can offer a link to some more info about salt?

Try this for a quick summary...

The Magic of Salt

And this will teach you about crystals. Including salt or pyrite being the source charge (cube) and Quartz (sand=Quartz, Dipyramid) the polarity conductor or director/motivator.

http://classes.geology.uiuc.edu/06Fa...Lecture2-1.pdf

This page describes in short detail that nacl has ionic or static properties.

Types of Crystals - Shapes and Structures

This is the text from it.

Ionic Crystals
The atoms of ionic crystals are held together by electrostatic forces (ionic bonds). Ionic crystals are hard and have relatively high melting points. Table salt (NaCl) is an example of this type of crystal.

There are tons of references about his stuff...

And this is a good reference to the peizo effect.

http://www.nanomotion.com/index.aspx?id=2531

[Jbignes5]

Yeah. Well...

I agree, lets solve this already and build our own pyramids and stone monuments/generators/observatories and what not.
I think it would be thrilling to push a 40-ton stone with your finger to move it along.

Well if you knew what was responsible for the transmission of energy then why would you need the pyramid. Tesla knew full well that there was a particle responsible for all transmission of energy. It after all was responsible for his beautiful displays of Ultra High Voltages and the minute frequencies he was using to motivate just those particles.
The voltage attracts these carriers of charge and they are the streams you see blazing from the surface of whatever he used to broadcast that potential. Once the conductors lined up then charges could flow to the source and gather round that object eventually shooting back out the same connection that it came in on. I believe now these charges are cubic in form and are perfectly balanced so they will last forever. Although these charges can never touch anything they are distinct and separate from everything else only allowing the conductors to guide their journey twords that (massed charges) high potential source.
But one would need to provide an impulse that is a perfect one way pulse. The shorter the pulse the more of these tiny minute conductors you can attract to complete the connection to more smaller groupings of charges to follow it back to the source.

here is an interesting idea. You know the poppers that are in little paper wraps and kids normally throw them at your feet? That is exactly what would generate the static charges one would need as a source. Everyone knows that premise is built around crystals and sulfer right? Well what if you had tons of those flowing in a salty fluid all hitting each other generating immense high voltages in the range of 12k volts of static energy per collision. If these bottles were the source and then you plugged them into the rock or in the case of ED the coral then wetting the coral with the salty solution as well, it would charge the whole thing up with an immense static charge that could quite possibly lift the mass of the coral block with ease based on it's own mass and surface area and the porousness of the coral.

How it is made:
" Pop pop snappers are made of a few grains of sand that have been coated with a tiny amount of silver fulminate (AgONC) that is impact-sensitive.
Then they are all twisted together in a piece of tissue paper to keep the grains of sand tightly secure. The friction of the sand against the silver fulminate causes the latter to ignite with a quick, loud "pop," thus the reason for the popping sound when thrown on a hard surface."

Lets see how that works for you...

Here is an interesting take on glass making and could contribute to the effects of washing the sand to purify it for glass making. Maybe it was a complete mistake finding out about the quartz creating huge voltages by the washing process but I think not. Since I believe the elders knew full well about the sand around them.
http://www.antiquityofman.com/AE_glass.html

[Loadstone]

Hi all, Scotty here.
Hey Remelic, I didn't forget about you....been busy.

I'm not really into ideas about moving stones so much, but I want to understand more about how the magnets function so that we can use them in ways we don't now....which would include gravity, so I like to consider the possibilities. If Ed figured out how to cancel gravity I'm sure he would have utilised it, but without any way to show it we can only theorize.

Ed's uses static experiments when describing gravity.

Take some plastic and rub it to make it static.
Put some salt on the plastic so it is attracted to the plastic.
Now take a tooth pick and push a salt crystal a little bit and see what it does.
Does the salt jump away?
If it does, Why
Scotty.

[Vickers]

I like Eds copper wire wrapped bottles. And his magnetic crank device. Reminds of this contraption.
YouTube - MIT Physics Demo -- The Wimshurst Machine
YouTube - MIT Physics Demo -- Dissectible Capacitor

[Jbignes5]

Well think about it...

Whoa??? Did someone mention salt? Salt is good.
Heres a brain strain for ya.. If earths oceans were all fresh water, as opposed to saltwater, how would this affect the tides?

Where is coral castle? Florida and what is all around Florida? Salt water. Whats in the air around that salt water? Microscopic Salt?????? If these transmitters of potential are made of the most pureset of salt in the smallest form ever then the air would be saturated in it on humid days. When did he do most of his work? AT night! What happens to salt water when it has verying densities?
Could one attract a majority of the salt in the air around the coral that has been laden with saltwater or purified water? and charged up statically?
Hmmmmm....
Has anyone seen the dead sea and what happens when you try to swim in it?

[remelic]

Hi all, Scotty here.
Hey Remelic, I didn't forget about you....been busy.

I'm not really into ideas about moving stones so much, but I want to understand more about how the magnets function so that we can use them in ways we don't now....which would include gravity, so I like to consider the possibilities. If Ed figured out how to cancel gravity I'm sure he would have utilised it, but without any way to show it we can only theorize.

Ed's uses static experiments when describing gravity.

Take some plastic and rub it to make it static.
Put some salt on the plastic so it is attracted to the plastic.
Now take a tooth pick and push a salt crystal a little bit and see what it does.
Does the salt jump away?
If it does, Why
Scotty.

Hey Scotty!

Nice work on the impossible box. You did very well on that.

About your question...

I was experimenting with this to try and answer your question because I thought I'd be smart and tell you it has to do with the ionic-properties of salt but I found out this was a premature evaluation... so I'll post my results so far.

For my surface I am using an old 6" diameter margarine container lid.
I use a wool sock to charge the surface by rubbing the lid back and fourth.

Now after pushing salt crystals around with a toothpick and watching them jump and oscillate back and forth between crystals, I asked the question weather it was the ionic properties of the crystal or if this effect was caused by something else?

So I crushed up some quartz and it too acted like the salt... but this was no surprise to me since quartz is piezoelectric but I tried it anyway. The results were on par with salt.

So this led me to try something that was not ionic in nature and I chose sugar as my next subject and it too reacted the same way... Was it just crystals?... nope!

-Table Salt (Works very well)
-Quartz (Works very well)
-Pepper
-Iron Filings (Works very well)
-Corn Starch (**Did not work but was strongly charged to the surface)
-Celery Seeds
-Sprinkles candy (cake decorations)
-Dry leaves
-Wooden toothpick
-Aluminum foil flakes
-Tiny bits of paper

Here is a list of all the things I was able to get to react in my experiment. I suspect that all things would react this way on a static-charged surface.

Notes:

-Largest piece moved: Pink-Quartz (5mm x 3mm x 3mm) over two inches by itself after a nudge from my toothpick.

-Smaller salt crystals bounce back and forth between two larger salt crystals. Probably due to static exchange of polarity. The salt crystal changed polarity as it hits the larger salt crystal until the available charge is dissipated or the smaller crystal gets attracted to the charged surface and not the larger salt crystals.

-Some orbit around other particles. Some fly away on contact up to a meter or more from the freshly charged surface.

I am still experimenting on a few things. I have larger pieces of stone that I have saturated with salt crystals and I'm going to see if static discharge has any effect and if they too will move more easier on a static surface then when they had no salt crystals around them.

Until next time...

[Cherryman]

I find it curiuos that Ed used specifically coral rocks. Maybe theire ability to absorb (salt) water gave it conducting or yet unknown properties.
He might wetted them before doing his "trick"