How to Move Mountains... Leedskalnin Style

[redrichie]

Just bumping this up. Some info in here may be relevant to some discussions that are taking place right now. I have pictures from my trip to the castle in the last page or so.

[Guruji]

Gravity

Hi I posted it this on another thread too but maybe it would help. I saw a guy on youtube making a round coil and when giving it certain frequency the coil levitates. Who knows maybe Ledskalnin wrapped a coil around the stone that he was going to lift.

[Harvey]

A sustained charge of one Coulomb each, will produce a force of 0.8987552 x 10^10 Newtons of force at a distance of one meter. (See Electric forces )

A Newton is that force which gravity exerts on 102 grams of mass.


This means that if a single point on the surface of the Earth, and a single point on the bottom of Leedskalnin's Coral rock were each held at a like charge of one Coulomb, then we could expect a force of eight billion nine hundred eighty seven million five hundred and fifty two thousand (8,987,552,000) Newtons of force between that point on the Earth and that point on the Rock at a distance of one meter. With respects to the mass of the rock, a gravitational force of one Newton for each 102 grams would be working against the charge force.

This means that the two forces, gravity and the two Coulomb point charge repulsion, would balance out when the Coral rock was at 916,730,304 kg because that is the mass where the Newtons equalize.

How much electricity does it take to represent a one Coulomb charge? One amp for one second.

Before you get too excited about this, please notice that these are point charge calculations. It is similar to taking the pressure of your thumb to push a needle through solid leather. It is more effective when applied to a single point. In other words, when pressure is concentrated on a very small area it has more force. Mathematically, Pressure = Force divided by Area.

What happens if we spread (or distribute) this charge across the entire surface of one of these Coral slabs? This is where we get into Charge Density which can involve complex integrals especially where porous Coral are concerned. But given the possible forces involved, it would be interesting to apply this science and see if any validity could exist where Ed may have used this to levitate his Coral building blocks.

[redrichie]

to a degree I am pretty sure that is what the legend is telling us. Two boys saw him floating the rocks like balloons.

Hi I posted it this on another thread too but maybe it would help. I saw a guy on youtube making a round coil and when giving it certain frequency the coil levitates. Who knows maybe Ledskalnin wrapped a coil around the stone that he was going to lift.

[Michelinho]

Hi all,

It looks to me like Ed's generator is a form of PMH.

I am referring to an experiment I did with my son-in-law involving a "U" shape magnet which we called at the time, the Keeper effect. Take a "U" shape magnet, place a thin neodymium magnet on top of a pole and place the keeper on top of the magnet and above the other pole without touching it. You will see that the keeper does not tend to stick to the pole it is floating above. The Gauss meter indicated full magnetic flux transfer. Turn the keeper with your finger and it will spin easily without clamping to the other pole as it passes by and it doesn't appear to have a sticky effect on the rotation. The post I mentioned the experiment with a drawing: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post47237

Ed's generator wheel looks like a similar configuration. The wheel sits on top of the engine block encased in the coral right beside the ground pipe which is down through the coral forming the other branch of the PMH or "U" magnet. There might be some metal linking both under the coral based cement floor. Turning the generator wheel would be very easy if it is acting as the keeper effect mentioned above.

What would prove or disprove the theory is to make a big PMH using a big "U" bolt from an old truck when they were used to hold the differential to the spring suspension making a branch longer than the other to install a coil on and mount a small wheel with magnets around on top of the other branch and giving it a spin. I will try to go to a truck scrap yard and get one of those old "U" bolt , you can probably still buy a new one in a suspension shop for trucks and trailers. The rod used is about 1.5" in diameter and the "U" bolt is around 20" long with a radius of 4" at the rounded end.

I may be wrong but it would fit well with the keeper effect.

Take care all,

Michel

[d3x0r]

Ed Leedskalnin...

Is it a surity that Ed's device was only a generator? Or is there another peice that isn't discussed? Could he have put such a peice under the last block that he placed? Could it be something silly like under the welcome sign - something like drop a wire 10 (?) down?

Also, I never see discussed, but didn't Ed put salt water in the center of the AC generator?

Someone mentioned that the flywheel looked like it was on a pipe - think that's an old engine block that he used the crankshaft as a cheap axel/bearing...

[cody]

@ All

I guess this is the thread to post this in. I have also been pondering about the chain and how or if ed used it. Just so everyone knows, the effect shown in the picture above, this does not work. I was also under the impression that it might work, but upon testing was disappointed to find that it didnt work. Anyone else tested this yet? I suspect that it might work if the chain were made from alternating iron and copper links instead of just iron links, but am not planning on testing to verify that.

Anyways, im not saying that there may or may not be something else going on with the chain, just that it doesnt work like the picture above suggests in figure B.

cody

[Aaron]

How to Move Mountains the Ancient Way

Is that in the Move Mountains ebook? Did the author imply
he did that and it worked?

[Jetijs]

Cody, how did you make the test? I would suggest using a chain of several links and one of them should be cut in half so that you can break the orbit. So you wind coils of several tuns on each of the chain links and magnetize all the links separately. Do the same with the last one that is cut in half. Now put a LED on the coil on the first link and then break apart the last link to release the magnetic currents and see if the led will flash. If it does, then this works.

[cody]

That picture is from the first post of this thread. I dont know who's picture it is, but the picture itself certainly appears to me that someone is implying that it works or may work. Since I have been doing some experimenting with chains, not specifically testing it for this thread, I thought some results might be relevant to this thread, as the picture is posted here. If you have further info i would be interested.

[cody]

Jetijs,

Thats a good suggestion, but there is nothing to break because the following links dont become charged, try it, you will see. It appears to me that the magnets can not jump from there orbit into further links.

My test setup was as follows: i used a length of heavy chain 2 feet in length, both ends had a pmh with a coil on each pmh. I pulsed one PMH coil and observed LED's on the opposite pmh coil. Nothing happened, and the opposite pmh didnt become charged either.

With a little more advanced setup and observing the opposite pmh coil with an oscilloscope, there did appear to be an extremely faint signal, but nothing to get excited about.

More testing would be good of course

[Jetijs]

Cody, that is why I suggested charging every link separately and see if when you break a charged PMH on one of the chain ends, it will release the energy to the PMH on the other end.

[gyula]

@
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I suspect that it might work if the chain were made from alternating iron and copper links instead of just iron links, but am not planning on testing to verify that.

Anyways, im not saying that there may or may not be something else going on with the chain, just that it doesnt work like the picture above suggests in figure B.

cody

Hi cody,

Groundloop just tested your above suspicion if you have not read it, see here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post121441

So a shorted "coupling" coil is needed for energy transfer between two ring cores (kind of chain but without eddy current losses) if AC or pulsed DC energy is to be transferred.

Gyula

[cody]

gyula,

I had not seen that, thanks for showing me.

Jetijs,

I just tested that, it did not work.

I did get results using 2 pmh's chained together, but it was a false reading. If you get the coil from pmh 1 to close to the coil from pmh 2, stray flux from coil 1 will couple to coil 2 and will light the led. Anyone testing this should put your input and output coils at 90 degrees from eachother and separate them as far as possible to eliminate this error.

[remelic]

cody

Hey Cody. This picture is misleading, and I apologize to everyone who is trying this experiment. The picture shows a DC battery but in fact the power supply needs to be AC. I can draw a more accurate picture if anyone wants.

Peter.