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  • Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
    Hi Mike, thank you for the answers, very helpful
    Here is my messy setup at the moment:





    I tried the same using the whole circuit, but the sparking seemed the same and the diode still did get hot fast. I attached the whole circuit so that I could see if there will be something on the output from those few quick sparks. I use a ferrite rod 8mm in diameter and 200mm long. I wound 5 coils on it, each about 45mm in length so that all the surface of the ferrite rod is covered. The output transformer is a 45VA 12/220v transformer. The "output" capacitor is a microwave oven cap. I used only one ground for this test and connected it to both - the primary capacitor negative and the negative of the fourth coil. I thought that if I get anything at all, I will try two grounds. I tried 1uF primary cap which gave only several loud sparks per second and I tried a very small capacity HV cap series array, which gave quieter sparks but in high frequency. None of them gave something in the output. I did not measure the output, but a 220v and 12v light bulb did not show anything. Are the coils wrong? Something is definitely wrong.
    I did not know about your STEAP thread, will read it through now
    Thanks!
    Hi Jetijs

    using the same ground will not give you anything unless you put some bias in the circuit as in the original STEAP circuit, but that is not what we want, we want to draw in electrons from the ground by using the potencial in the ground, like an earth battery. Try removing the cap from the HV supply and reduce the other cap to half its value by putting two in series.

    Remember you must have TWO earths with a distance apart, greater the better

    Mike

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    • testing for HV

      Jetijs

      check the output with a neon to see if you have any HV once you have adjusted the circuit. The diode might not be rated enough for the voltage or it is blown! it should not get very hot.

      There are videos on livestream of the original working. I will think some more on this and I must get my coils wound.

      Mike

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      • Ok, will try that, but are the coils ok for use in your circuit?
        It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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        • Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
          Ok, will try that, but are the coils ok for use in your circuit?
          The coils are infact a polyphasing transformer, I used ones out of a TV, pictures posted on the STEAP thread. yours are in the right configuration apart from they are one row, mine are multi and might make a difference.

          I must get mine wound or I will use one of the TV ones that I have but do not know if they will arc over with the HV that we will be putting through!!!!!!!! I think better wind with plastic insulated wire.

          Mike

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          • Might be better to post all this new stuff on my STEAP thread in case someone thinks I am high jacking this thread, if it is the case, sorry, but it is all linked.

            Mike

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            • Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
              Might be better to post all this new stuff on my STEAP thread in case someone thinks I am high jacking this thread, if it is the case, sorry, but it is all linked.

              Mike
              Can you please post the url link to your STEAP thread?

              Thanks

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              • Originally posted by vrand View Post
                Can you please post the url link to your STEAP thread?

                Thanks
                http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tion-pump.html

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                • ...

                  need some advice, if someone can help... its better/more efficient to power the system in what sequence:

                  12V battery -> transformer 12V to 2000V

                  12V battery -> 12V to 220V (140W) inverter -> transformer 220V to 2000V

                  what do you guys suggest?

                  hugs

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                  • Originally posted by juju View Post
                    need some advice, if someone can help... its better/more efficient to power the system in what sequence:

                    12V battery -> transformer 12V to 2000V

                    12V battery -> 12V to 220V (140W) inverter -> transformer 220V to 2000V

                    what do you guys suggest?

                    hugs
                    It entirely depends on what your current requirement is in the HV secondary.

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                    • ...

                      if i want more i should use the second, or if less the first?

                      what would you use?

                      thank you xeno

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                      • Originally posted by juju View Post
                        if i want more i should use the second, or if less the first?

                        what would you use?

                        thank you xeno
                        If you want current, use a MOT
                        If not go for the other variant.
                        Without a MOT, you wonīt see much effect lighting lamps and such,
                        because the circuitīs are probably still majorly overdamped.

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                        • ...

                          thanks

                          i will be looking tomorrow for a simple transformer (no MOT), to convert 12VDC to 2000AC, with low current...

                          if i dont suceed then i will look at the MOT, hight current, using the wall or the 12V - 200V inverter!

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                          • Originally posted by juju View Post
                            thanks

                            i will be looking tomorrow for a simple transformer (no MOT), to convert 12VDC to 2000AC, with low current...

                            if i dont suceed then i will look at the MOT, hight current, using the wall or the 12V - 200V inverter!
                            Hi,
                            This is my first post here.
                            One thing I can tell you for sure, inverters bought at the store will not work or maybe just for few seconds and will end up in smoke.The waves created by the SG and the coils interfers with the electronics in a standard inverter. You can build yourself an inverter that will work fine here.All you need is a normal transformer with 2x12v output and use it in reverse. You can drive it easy with a flip-flop circuit.I built a powerful one by cutting the high voltage part in a MOT then I had to wind 14+14 turns.Works great driving it with TL494Cn and irf540. For more power add more transistors in parallel for every channel.Make sure the circuit is going to be shilded with some aluminium foil.

                            Success!

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                            • hello romerouk

                              naice to have you here!

                              by the way, great job, your the man

                              i think im seeing, and then you can drive the circuit with a 12V battery, kicking 220 V to the MOT?

                              i have lot of damaged transformers here, can use one!

                              Originally posted by romerouk View Post
                              Hi,
                              All you need is a normal transformer with 2x12v output and use it in reverse. You can drive it easy with a flip-flop circuit.I built a powerful one by cutting the high voltage part in a MOT then I had to wind 14+14 turns.
                              i will buy that transistors tomorrow, can you share the flip flop circuit your r using?

                              the shield is for the High Frequencys not interfere with the transistors?

                              Originally posted by romerouk View Post
                              Works great driving it with TL494Cn and irf540. For more power add more transistors in parallel for every channel.Make sure the circuit is going to be shilded with some aluminium foil.
                              Success!
                              sory to bother

                              kings regards, love & light

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                              • Originally posted by juju View Post
                                naice to have you here!

                                by the way, great job, your the man

                                i think im seeing, and then you can drive the circuit with a 12V battery, kicking 220 V to the MOT?

                                i have lot of damaged transformers here, can use one!



                                i will buy that transistors tomorrow, can you share the flip flop circuit your r using?

                                the shield is for the High Frequencys not interfere with the transistors?



                                sory to bother

                                kings regards, love & light

                                I have been looking to find the diagram for you and no success at this time... but I found another one I have used some time ago and is much more simple and the components are easier to get.Transistors can be irf 530, buz11, irf3205, any of them but don't mix them. Use at least 2 transistors in parallel for each channel, more transistors = more power, it depends of the transformer you have too.Time to go to bed now for me...
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