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    eheh, thank you very much for the feedback seth, you seem very cool guy! i am really enjoying a lot making this videos!

    i will really give up on this "kapagen" concept... cause i have my own, not SR, not kapanadze, not kapagen... this can be done in multiple ways, i will just stay with low HV and current, from my experiments i am almost so close as the kapagen, cause i can light a 13W/20W bulb with just 6W input... so if we keep measuring energy with brightness, this is so free energy as the kapagen or others... but i want to put it clear, not just base my evidence in something that is not proof!

    and why do i say that?

    "It still seems a little odd that a standard MOT (or NST in my case) can light so many large wattage bulbs??? So im still not sure WHAT to think.... "

    the bulbs will light up with just potential voltage exitation, and will seem like they are fully bright, but the truth is that they arent! my tests on the kapagen show me that the current circulating on the system is very weak, with 1000volts in the system, my load fan will almost dont move, because it needs at least 300 to 600miliAmps.. and only 30 to 50mA are getting the fan!

    unless you find some way, to convert potential voltage in truth current this method is only an "illusion"...

    the kapagen is so FE or OU as a wireless exiter, cause i can light up lots of CFLS of 20W at the same time without increasing consumption, with only 6 watts input! is this OU?

    anyone can take ther conclusions!

    EDIT: if you have a mot, that consumes 220V x 5Amps... the only energy you will get out without losses will be 2000V x 0.55amps = 1100W , this are only efficient ways of driving lamps, put ther a load that needs real current and you will se what happen!

    this is proof that the 10 bulbs will only need 55mA each to light up, with MOT or without MOT, and the coil and SG are only fancy acessories, if anyone want to folow "blynd" theories, they are free to make it! but that is not my case, and im free to!


    what is the best way to convert high frequency, to low frequency again, so i can loop a system? any toughts? maybe caps will work? but i will need to adjust ther values...

    Originally posted by seth View Post
    Great vid, and superb music!

    I must admit JuJu, ive had similar results with my NST and 12 V battery p.supplies - they seem to light the same amount of lamps with or without my tacky kapagen coil.....a little disappoiting to see. Perhaps its just the scheme of wiring both ends into the ground which is where the magick lies? I cant get anything to work without 2 good grounds.

    It still seems a little odd that a standard MOT (or NST in my case) can light so many large wattage bulbs??? So im still not sure WHAT to think....

    I hope you dont give up on the Kapagen, but i understand if other directions have inspired you....if many replicators start managing to loop it (like Kapanadze claims is possible) there'll be little doubt that its genuine. Ive got a new NST 8kw to wire up and have another go!!!

    All results will be reported here as my overunity handle (mrflathunter) seems unable to access the website at the mo - and ever since a posted a few photos on the kapanadze thread.....suspicious

    EDIT: Thinking about it, I really understand now why so many people compared this to Karl Parlness (??) Tesla hairpin rep - if we look at it without the kapagen coil (as it seems to work - like you say juju), its just like Teslas ''2 stout copper rods'', except the rods have their opposite ends (usually in mid air) grounded 10 m apart.

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by juju; 06-24-2010, 07:26 PM.

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    • Originally posted by juju View Post
      eheh, thank you very much for the feedback seth, you seem very cool guy! i am really enjoying a lot making this videos!

      i will really give up on this "kapagen" concept... cause i have my own, not SR, not kapanadze, not kapagen... this can be done in multiple ways, i will just stay with low HV and current, from my experiments i am almost so close as the kapagen, cause i can light a 13W/20W bulb with just 6W input... so if we keep measuring energy with brightness, this is so free energy as the kapagen or others... but i want to put it clear, not just base my evidence in something that is not proof!

      and why do i say that?

      "It still seems a little odd that a standard MOT (or NST in my case) can light so many large wattage bulbs??? So im still not sure WHAT to think.... "

      the bulbs will light up with just potential voltage exitation, and will seem like they are fully bright, but the truth is that they arent! my tests on the kapagen show me that the current circulating on the system is very weak, with 1000volts in the system, my load fan will almost dont move, because it needs at least 300 to 600miliAmps.. and only 30 to 50mA are getting the fan!

      unless you find some way, to convert potential voltage in truth current this method is only an "illusion"...

      the kapagen is so FE or OU as a wireless exiter, cause i can light up lots of CFLS of 20W at the same without increasing consumption, with only 6 watts input! is this OU?

      anyone can take ther conclusions!

      what is the best way to convert high frequency, to low frequency again, so i can loop a system? any toughts? maybe caps will work? but i will need to adjust ther values...

      A post where i say "YESSSSSS !!!!".
      That is a good attitude!
      First try to experimentally proove something and then present hehe.
      Wish you good luck with what you are doing.

      what is the best way to convert high frequency, to low frequency again, so i can loop a system?
      According to Don Smith you just put a resistor across a transformer primary and magically you will have a lower frequency on the secondary.
      IMHO this can not work, but i admit i have not tried, because i rely in this case too much on theory (Driven steady-state Resonators)

      I also agree with what you say about the Kapagen.
      An inductive Load might however work differently with that kind of energy than a resistive load ...
      See what the folks can come up with in their further experiments.

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      • Kapanadze Documents

        In case, these document aren't already in this thread, they might be useful.

        Document by Vladimir Utkin

        Kapanadze's Patent

        Regards,

        VIDBID

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          i forgot to say...

          in the case of naudin when he says:

          2100 Watts of light at the output
          , is very well stated... because "of light" is not "of energy"!

          he is using a variac to limit the power input... and if the power input increase i can bet, the "light" power will increase to...

          so if it is putting 180W like in the video... or 220V x 0.82A... and using the voltage doubler to 4000volts...

          then the 14bulbs and 2 tubes... 4000V x 0.045A (45mA) = 180W... 45/16 = 3, that means that each bulb is lighting with only 3mA!

          If he put a big motor on load, that needs 1 or 2 amps... the mistery is gone! but of course, this is only my assumptions...

          Last edited by juju; 06-24-2010, 08:35 PM.

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          • thanks xeno...

            just to put it clear... across? like in paralel with the transformer primary?

            Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
            A post where i say "YESSSSSS !!!!".

            According to Don Smith you just put a resistor across a transformer primary and magically you will have a lower frequency on the secondary.
            IMHO this can not work, but i admit i have not tried, because i rely in this case too much on theory (Driven steady-state Resonators)

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            • Juju you might be right here. I have seen so many things that seemed like sure fire overunity in my own tests -and when you took out the pocket calculator the OU just evaporated.
              I think it is very hard to judge if a lightbulb is "full on" or not. I work in theater and when you ramp up a stage light with a dimmer the difference between 75 to 80% and full on is difficult to see.
              Even more so when the output is a pulse.
              So I 'd rather like to see the replicators try and strive for the minimum input and not a brute force one. It's safer it is more of a definite PROOF and prpbably it won't work at all...

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              • Juju you might be right here. I have seen so many things that seemed like sure fire overunity in my own tests -and when you took out the pocket calculator the OU just evaporated.
                I think it is very hard to judge if a lightbulb is "full on" or not. I work in theater and when you ramp up a stage light with a dimmer the difference between 75 to 80% and full on is difficult to see.
                Even more so when the output is a pulse.
                So I 'd rather like to see the replicators try and strive for the minimum input and not a brute force one. It's safer it is more of a definite PROOF and probably it won't work at all...

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                • Originally posted by juju View Post
                  thanks xeno...

                  just to put it clear... across? like in paralel with the transformer primary?
                  Thats exactly what he said in that video.
                  If that would be so simple then why would he put inverters on his secondary to correct the frequency in other set-ups.
                  Sometimes i think he enjoys to fool people.

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                    if you think, you can try it yourself and publish your results!

                    there's no way im putting my lamps on water, this thing will blow up instantly!



                    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                    I'm guessing here but Kapagen output is just a mixture of RF,normal current and radiant energy. Underwater test would be nice.

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                    • hi albert

                      thanks for your point of view!

                      that's exactly what i will do... pulse a step down transformer of 220V 45mA ---> 10V 1A... reversed!

                      so i will input 10V 1A and see what happens...

                      anyone have some timer circuit to pulse 60Hz similar to the grid? I have allready tryed this using a frequency calculator but i dont had sucess, maybe was because of the duty cycle, etc.. because the frequency was correct!

                      EDIT: sory, the grid frequency here is 50Hz, and is the frequency that my transformer will work!

                      anyone can help so i can take peoples doubts?

                      hugs


                      Originally posted by albertMunich View Post
                      So I 'd rather like to see the replicators try and strive for the minimum input and not a brute force one. It's safer it is more of a definite PROOF and probably it won't work at all...
                      that guy is a thief, i just had to look one time at one video to take my doubts!

                      Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
                      Thats exactly what he said in that video.
                      If that would be so simple then why would he put inverters on his secondary to correct the frequency in other set-ups.
                      Sometimes i think he enjoys to fool people.
                      Last edited by juju; 06-24-2010, 08:38 PM.

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                      • friends you should read this thread- perhaps a second time- here there is talk about metals and how the crystal structure affects the conducting of current. and about the radiant phenomenon...
                        http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-energy-4.html

                        I repeat that the most important thing with the Kapagen system is to find out what kind of energy comes out of it. Probably we will have to reverse engineer this from the output side with all the knowledge that is on this forum. If we can't come to grips with the effects present here and find the theory after the experiment we will be lost in the woods. This is NEW PHYSICS emerging here and it's high time we threw out many of the 19th century ideas that still hamper us. But many of you already are past that point which is why this forum is unique.
                        By the way I wonder why the longitudinal wave has been thrown out of the theoretical textbooks. Is it because it needs a supposed "ether" to propagate in free space? It seems logical that when they threw out the ether concept they also threw out the idea of a longitudinal electrical wave. anyway in a conductor the longitudinal wave concept can exist even if we believe that the ether idea is related to it. Whaddya think?

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                        • Originally posted by juju View Post

                          anyone have some timer circuit to pulse 60Hz similar to the grid? I have allready tryed this using a frequency calculator but i dont had sucess, maybe was because of the duty cycle, etc.. because the frequency was correct!
                          Look at Crazy Alex circuit, itīs exactly doing that in the upper left section.

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                          • in the uper left? sorry is very difficult to me to interpretate that circuit.. dont see any 555 timer chip ther...

                            Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
                            Look at Crazy Alex circuit, itīs exactly doing that in the upper left section.

                            if the crystal structure affects the conducting of current, how will we take current of ther? because all the devices in the real world, need current!

                            guys, i want to make clear that im not debunking kapagen or saying that it dont works, or in anyway im trying to take is value!

                            maybe there's a different type of energy arround that can light bulbs, but is useless with devices that need current (normal energy)!

                            i will just prove this in my next experiments, if a bulb will light up with just a few miliamps of "normal energy".

                            then all the doubts will vanish!

                            Originally posted by albertMunich View Post
                            friends you should read this thread- perhaps a second time- here there is talk about metals and how the crystal structure affects the conducting of current. and about the radiant phenomenon...
                            http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-energy-4.html
                            Last edited by juju; 06-24-2010, 09:50 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by juju View Post
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                              if the crystal structure affects the conducting of current, how will we take current of ther? because all the devices in the real world, need current!

                              guys, i want to make clear that im not debunking kapagen or saying that it dont works, or in anyway im trying to take is value!

                              maybe there's a different type of energy arround that can light bulbs, but is useless with devices that need current (normal energy)!

                              i will just prove this in my next experiments, if a bulb will light up with just a few miliamps of "normal energy".

                              then all the doubts will vanish!
                              Im trying the same juju - i wanna see filament bulbs of 75 watt lighting off my twelve volt battery, and to do that i need current. And i aint getting enough (yet).

                              I cant help but think the spark gap is the most important thing in this circuit (naudin claims the fine tuning to a plasma cloud increases efficiency) - the rest we should just see as a hairpin grounded on both sides. I noticed that my CFLs worked much better when they also had a spark gap next to them...but not only the CFLs. the filament bulbs would get going if they had a nicely tuned spark gap next to them too......

                              I might add a few spark gaps if i get the opportiunity to do more testing tomorrow night.

                              .

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                              • seth, when i was messing about with ignition coils & HV A while ago.....i noticed the same thing, i could get a filament bulb to light ( not fully ) only when i had the spark going to it

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