my smith kanapadz replication

[dragon]

Hi Dragon,
nice setup with the big cable in one loop
through the ferrite toroids.

But my question was, if you can test, if these 2 circuits produce the
same brightness on your lamp.
So does the groundwire going through the center of the coils
has any additive energy effect ?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...0;attach=45262

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...0;attach=45263

P.S: You surely can use your version with the 3 coils,
just test out, if the groundwire through the coil gives out more
energy than not going through the coils.


Please let us know.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

The light intensity is brighter with the wire or coil through the center. The ground doesn't seem to make any difference if it's connected to the end or through the center. It will work without the ground but the intensity of the light is lower and consumption goes up to around 10 watts.
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[dragon]

I have been experimenting with reverse Tesla pulsing setups with no added beneficial effect noticed in any case.

Mine setups consisted of a HV source (80-90% efficient), charging a capacitor (15,25,50 and 125 nf) which in turn via a spark gap (carbon electrodes with or without magnetic quenching) discharging in a coil of many turns (air core or wound on ferrite core) and a L1 placed over it of few turns with a load (bulb) harvesting the energy with or without a capacitor attached for resonance operation. (actually without capacitor works even better) and ground was tried it several possitions.

In any case no running of the bulb at its nominal brightness was observed with less wattage even if the system was efficient enough. (80 eff. average)

i know you have said in the past you can run 1500watt resisitive loads with 500watts input, but this not what i see in my RLC circuits. and hard to believe to be honest.




Since in your setup all coils are actually one coil wound in different directions, cross-sections and different wire gauge, how a resonance condition can be achieved since the same current flows everywhere in the same phase?

In your setup, removing the ground at all, seriously diminishes the output?

Just a few key questions IMO

Firstly, as I stated in my first post with this device - I wasn't making any claims of overunity. The light is bright but I didn't say it was full bright ( as it would be plugged directly to the grid ). Everyone else jumped to conclusions it was a 40 watt output with a 7 watt input.

With basic power factor corrections you can run an inductive load with less initial input than that of a directly connected resistive load. A good example of PFC is here YouTube - Power Factor Correction Explanation . My AC input to the NST has a PFC cap in line which considerably reduces it's consumption also the variac allows for further adjustments to control voltage. You can use both parallel and series caps for PFC but in series the capcitor needs to be sized to carry the full amperage of the system. I'm using a 15uf motor run cap in series with the NST.

Considering the NST only has a current controlled 20ma output the amperage needs to be brought up to about 1 amp to run a 100watt light ( or in the example 300ma to drive the 40 watt bulb ). The cap size at the NST and spark gap will determine a part of this amperage, the balance of which would need to be tweaked through a step down transformer ( reverse tesla ).

Unfortunately, I'm still struggling with that portion of the conversion as the voltage is still quite high and with the right spark gap I can create a bright blue light when the bulb no longer conducts through its resistive element and the gas glows.

My intention was to find a way to reduce the voltage and convert it to amperage on the waste side of the device ( load to ground ). It works to a certain degree with this set up but not as well as I had hoped. It will light a 200 watt bulb indicating I can create close to 1 amp output ( about half bright on the bulb ). I've also run 150 and 500 watt halogen bulbs with it but the resistance on the large one is to low to do much more than produce lots of heat and an orange glow, the 150 lights fairly well with around a 50 watt input and also produces a considerable amount of heat.

The other device, my "heat circuit" as I call it because my passion was finding a way to reduce the input needed to create an equal amount of heat does work and works quite well.

I did find it quite interesting to see that within hours of posting the circuit that it had been reposted, altered, renamed even argued over and theorized without anyone actually trying any real life experiments.. with the exception of your self.... When I start with an idea I tend to have lots of questions but the only way to get an answer is to build it and experiment with it, the answers are there. You can ask 100 people a question and get 100 answers but none will be the same as the actual experiment... we learn the most when we break something, fail, get zapped or what ever... the answer lies in doing.... maybe the first time will fail - does that mean it can't work? How many light bulbs were built before one actually worked... If you believe in what your doing you'll find a way to make it work...
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VAPORIZER WIKI

[EMCSQ]

@cosmo-lv

Don Smith in one of his YT videos mentioned that e.g. a 'gas tube sign power supply' has overunity . It is show on their label . If you calculate it : It's about 2.5 .
So if this is really true. Can we use their circuit layout to get our coil working?
I assume that ou , if it really occurs in this devices is not intentionally part of the design, rather a effect that is inherent in design . So it can be increased on purpose.

In the Free Energy-1.doc the coils are wound in different directions , similar to the design of the Don Smith Coil : Is displacement current the key , can we start the device like mentioned in the doc-file ?

So I guess : the way you wind the coil you get an capacitance effect. Maybe the thick wire in the middle of the coil is a kind of a dipole an receives upon its length a certain frequency that the coil produces.
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Thanks

[Armagdn03]

@cosmo-lv

Don Smith in one of his YT videos mentioned that e.g. a 'gas tube sign power supply' has overunity . It is show on their label . If you calculate it : It's about 2.5 .
So if this is really true. Can we use their circuit layout to get our coil working?
I assume that ou , if it really occurs in this devices is not intentionally part of the design, rather a effect that is inherent in design . So it can be increased on purpose.

It is more than likely that the voltage output of a neon sign transformer refers to its Peak voltage rather than its root mean square voltage (rms). This is because in the neon business one would be interested in the breakdown voltage of the gas (related to the peak not rms). Therefore the calculations based on peak voltage x amperage will yield "OU" when in reality there is NONE

I am REALLY surprised no one has pointed this out, and it still gets thrown around as fact.

[cosmo-lv]

@cosmo-lv

Don Smith in one of his YT videos mentioned that e.g. a 'gas tube sign power supply' has overunity . It is show on their label . If you calculate it : It's about 2.5 .
So if this is really true. Can we use their circuit layout to get our coil working?
I assume that ou , if it really occurs in this devices is not intentionally part of the design, rather a effect that is inherent in design . So it can be increased on purpose.

In the Free Energy-1.doc the coils are wound in different directions , similar to the design of the Don Smith Coil : Is displacement current the key , can we start the device like mentioned in the doc-file ?

So I guess : the way you wind the coil you get an capacitance effect. Maybe the thick wire in the middle of the coil is a kind of a dipole an receives upon its length a certain frequency that the coil produces.
......

Thanks

Yes coils are wound in different directions

[hartiberlin]

Hi Dragon,
can you please try to wind more turns
through the center as I proposed over here and
let us know, if this helps the brightness of your
lamp with the same input ?

Please see here:


Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...0;attach=45276

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[Xenomorph]

It is more than likely that the voltage output of a neon sign transformer refers to its Peak voltage rather than its root mean square voltage (rms). This is because in the neon business one would be interested in the breakdown voltage of the gas (related to the peak not rms). Therefore the calculations based on peak voltage x amperage will yield "OU" when in reality there is NONE

I am REALLY surprised no one has pointed this out, and it still gets thrown around as fact.

What is even more surprising is that "clever" Don Smith should know that too.

But it has been pointed out before on other occasions:

Don Smith's Briefcase Device

Don Smith's Briefcase Device

[lota]

Hallo,
Dragon you can make the spark so.

Regards, Lota

[Armagdn03]

What is even more surprising is that "clever" Don Smith should know that too.

But it has been pointed out before on other occasions:

Don Smith's Briefcase Device

Don Smith's Briefcase Device

Thank god people know this! I thought it was surprising god ol Don did not know this either.

[dragon]

Hi Dragon,
can you please try to wind more turns
through the center as I proposed over here and
let us know, if this helps the brightness of your
lamp with the same input ?

Please see here:


Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...0;attach=45276

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

The only way that would have any effect ( neg or pos ) is if there were a ferrite toroid or iron core. Here is another version that I attempted that did seem to enhance the brightness without disturbing the input... basically a coil wound around a nylon tube through the center. It didn't significantly alter the brightness of the bulb...
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[amigo]

I apologize for the digression but hell, you guys spend more time quarreling than producing anything useful. How are we going to accomplish anything if all we do is argue among each other?

I propose that we ban anyone who makes a claim of something and does not "put up".

Same should go for anyone who says they know or have a solution to something, but won't share it in public for whatever reason.

Neither have a place in this community and should be banned right away.

If only we had admins and moderators here...this place is becoming more like OU.com (no offense Stefan) but it seems to me that both forums lack people with aptitude towards moderation and administration.

It's as if those who are supposed to do it fell from another planet and do not know how to deal with the issues or people in general.

[ewizard]

@cosmo-lv

Don Smith in one of his YT videos mentioned that e.g. a 'gas tube sign power supply' has overunity . It is show on their label . If you calculate it : It's about 2.5 .
So if this is really true. Can we use their circuit layout to get our coil working?
I assume that ou , if it really occurs in this devices is not intentionally part of the design, rather a effect that is inherent in design . So it can be increased on purpose.

In the Free Energy-1.doc the coils are wound in different directions , similar to the design of the Don Smith Coil : Is displacement current the key , can we start the device like mentioned in the doc-file ?

So I guess : the way you wind the coil you get an capacitance effect. Maybe the thick wire in the middle of the coil is a kind of a dipole an receives upon its length a certain frequency that the coil produces.
......

Thanks

Yes basically what Armagdn03 said. I saw this explained in detail a while ago. It is misleading if you go by what is simply on the NST label. They use different ways of stating input versus output power. Sorry but NO OU in an NST by itself.

[boguslaw]

The only way that would have any effect ( neg or pos ) is if there were a ferrite toroid or iron core. Here is another version that I attempted that did seem to enhance the brightness without disturbing the input... basically a coil wound around a nylon tube through the center. It didn't significantly alter the brightness of the bulb...

Interesting how it become more and more similar to Don Smith tabletop device from videos just used in reverse (secondary as primary)

[vrand]

The only way that would have any effect ( neg or pos ) is if there were a ferrite toroid or iron core. Here is another version that I attempted that did seem to enhance the brightness without disturbing the input... basically a coil wound around a nylon tube through the center. It didn't significantly alter the brightness of the bulb...

Hi Dragon,

Did you see Romerouk's Youtube video of his kanapadz replication over on the OU forum?

romerouk

Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #1867 on: June 09, 2010, 09:38:22 PM »

Here is my replication for Kapanadze-Kapagen style. No measurements yet as it is impossible to use digital equipment.
YouTube - Kapanadze replication v1.0 - Kapagen coil Jean-Louis Naudin

And and closeup of his coil:
Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

CCW - CW - CCW from the left to the right

I am using 260w in the system and output is at least 500w.The bulbs are more than fully powered.After few more attempts I have destroyed 2 of them.I will have to get some more bulbs tommorow and see how many I can connect and still keep full brightness.I tryed to measure voltage across one bulb and it shows 335v-ac but all my meters are digital and I am sure it is not right.I need to get some analogic multimeters to find the amps and volts at the output.

Few minutes ago I have started the system using DC to power the system an now I can see that DC is the only way to keep the system running for longer period of time.Using ac the spark gap becomes very hot as with dc it is much better.Also having a capacitor 90.02mf) connected in parallel with the load, keeps the flickering under control. I hope the picture attached will make all understand the basic of it.

Looks like the coil windings directions and using DC are maybe some keys to making it work.

Regards

ps are you the same Pirate88179 over on that forum?

[tutanka]

Tesla antenna secret

HI Peoples,
I have read that thread but you watch videos for understand how many turns have coils, for obtain capacitor value, etc... with the object of copy only.

In fact for me Tesla concept is simple.. him have in mind an best project, transmit electric energy via ether, after few experiments have found that not only is possible but have obtained also more output energy power

All inventors like Smith, Gray etc. have interpeter right tesla results creating an integrated energy transmitter/receiver system and for antenna they have used COILS.
For that if you want that system work YOU must have the same resonance (wavelenght) using high frequency HV supply.
Smith have specified that HV frequency must be > 20KHz because you need WAVES not FIELDS.

Simple example.. Every antenna have an resonance frequency.. if you use wifi unit to 2.4GHz you can't use antenna at 433MHz for transmit signal.. you need right antenna!! The same principle is apply to that system.
In that way you need RIGHT coils (antennas) and RIGHT HV SUPPLY (>20KHz)


Regards from Italy