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  • Originally posted by dragon View Post
    If a post doesn't seem to offer any real insight to solving a problem then simply ignore it, if it does then apply it. There is no reason to clutter up a good thread with complaints or verbal pissing wars.

    Getting back on topic here is a simple experiment that I had done several months ago using a small NST, spark gap and 15 watt bulb. I wrapped a dozen or so winds of heavy speaker wire around a well pipe and drove the load with a single output lead of the NST. It worked quite well... the NST was one from allelectronics ( 2000v 10ma 12 volt unit $6.50). It would light the 15 watt 120v bulb to near full bright with an input of around 400ma at 12.5 volts. The spark gap wasn't real stable but it was enough to inspire me to continue on. Below is a diagram of the experiment
    Interesting experiment, thank you for sharing

    How far away was the ground connection from the well pipe? In the Kapagen design, they found that 10 meters min. was needed to tap the extra energy.

    Regards, Mike

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    • Originally posted by vrand View Post
      Interesting experiment, thank you for sharing

      How far away was the ground connection from the well pipe? In the Kapagen design, they found that 10 meters min. was needed to tap the extra energy.

      Regards, Mike
      In that experiment the pipe was the ground connection, there was no other connection. I had thought, later, that the unused lead on the NST could have been connected to another ground in a different location. Interesting second experiment when time allows...
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      Last edited by dragon; 01-19-2012, 04:20 AM.

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      • Originally posted by dragon View Post
        In that experiment the pipe was the ground connection, there was no other connection. I had thought, later, that the unused lead on the NST could have been connected to another ground in a different location. Interesting second experiment when time allows...
        Thank you for the info. Yes, please share your experiment results, as it might shed light on how this ground connections used in the kapagen works and why it is needed.

        Only time? Typically its time and money. You are half way there

        Regards

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        • Originally posted by dragon View Post
          If a post doesn't seem to offer any real insight to solving a problem then simply ignore it, if it does then apply it. There is no reason to clutter up a good thread with complaints or verbal pissing wars.

          Getting back on topic here is a simple experiment that I had done several months ago using a small NST, spark gap and 15 watt bulb. I wrapped a dozen or so winds of heavy speaker wire around a well pipe and drove the load with a single output lead of the NST. It worked quite well... the NST was one from allelectronics ( 2000v 10ma 12 volt unit $6.50). It would light the 15 watt 120v bulb to near full bright with an input of around 400ma at 12.5 volts. The spark gap wasn't real stable but it was enough to inspire me to continue on. Below is a diagram of the experiment
          This coil and setup is designed to Burn electrons, in that kind of setup all electrons are Dead in Load.
          The purpose of free energy is to make to electrons to Born and not to let to Die.

          Lets look on one misinformation about ionization for combustion engines.

          The ionization is not make sense - all sense are in High currents and these currents synchronization with ignition coil.
          You say: "these both are not connected together!" yes they not, but the field where new electrons are created is big and this field resonates with ignition coil and other electric parts - this is different resonance.

          If you not believe you can make test with spark gap and wire - if you play around with your car and HV transformer - you then MAYBE understand the phenomena of Borning electrons. More electrons Born then more the effect and more possibilities to make Free energy.
          But if you burning these electrons in Load, then you cannot reach the Low of physic.

          i personally don't need such of tests, i just see how its happening and i don't go deep to Esoteric things, but this is the way how its happening.

          When Tesla makes he FE device for car, then he say: "Energy comes from air"

          Now i can explain what he mean by words "Energy comes from air"
          Only what you need is little HV to make Born new electrons and lots of electrons forming around the wires, the second thing is to activate these electrons...

          Think about it. And good bye!

          P.S. if you understand this principle then you can reach Hunderts of killowats fith box around 200x200 cm
          Last edited by cosmo-lv; 06-13-2010, 08:11 PM.

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          • Originally posted by cosmo-lv View Post
            This coil and setup is designed to Burn electrons, in that kind of setup all electrons are Dead in Load.
            The purpose of free energy is to make to electrons to Born and not to let to Die.

            Lets look on one misinformation about ionization for combustion engines.

            The ionization is not make sense - all sense are in High currents and these currents synchronization with ignition coil.
            You say: "these both are not connected together!" yes they not, but the field where new electrons are created is big and this field resonates with ignition coil and other electric parts - this is different resonance.

            If you not believe you can make test with spark gap and wire - if you play around with your car and HV transformer - you then MAYBE understand the phenomena of Borning electrons. More electrons Born then more the effect and more possibilities to make Free energy.
            But if you burning these electrons in Load, then you cannot reach the Low of physic.

            i personally don't need such of tests, i just see how its happening and i don't go deep to Esoteric things, but this is the way how its happening.

            When Tesla makes he FE device for car, then he say: "Energy comes from air"

            Now i can explain what he mean by words "Energy comes from air"
            Only what you need is little HV to make Born new electrons and lots of electrons forming around the wires, the second thing is to activate these electrons...

            Think about it. And good bye!

            P.S. if you understand this principle then you can reach Hunderts of killowats fith box around 200x200 cm
            cosmo, the experiment wasn't meant to show any ou, just a simple response from a single wire into a ground circuit with a spark gap. It is a single pass electric circuit and I'm sure the overall efficiency is pretty low.

            I like doing simple experiments to prove a certain point then build on them from there. If you simply build a complete device without any comprehension of it's workings you have no idea why it didn't work and therefore could never build a working device...unless by accident.

            Some of your thoughts and idea might be better understood with graphics or schematics. Words sometimes create a fuzzy picture and can be interpreted in many ways. A picture tells the story in a way that is understandable by most.
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            Last edited by dragon; 01-19-2012, 04:21 AM.

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            • Originally posted by dragon View Post
              cosmo, the experiment wasn't meant to show any ou, just a simple response from a single wire into a ground circuit with a spark gap. It is a single pass electric circuit and I'm sure the overall efficiency is pretty low.

              I like doing simple experiments to prove a certain point then build on them from there. If you simply build a complete device without any comprehension of it's workings you have no idea why it didn't work and therefore could never build a working device...unless by accident.

              Some of your thoughts and idea might be better understood with graphics or schematics. Words sometimes create a fuzzy picture and can be interpreted in many ways. A picture tells the story in a way that is understandable by most.
              i'm not electronic guy who can make circuits and schematics, i'm esoteric. if i now start to draw electrons and atom structures you connot understand even a thing...

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              • Originally posted by cosmo-lv View Post
                i'm not electronic guy who can make circuits and schematics, i'm esoteric. if i now start to draw electrons and atom structures you connot understand even a thing...
                Try us

                Please do go ahead and draw the diagram with "electrons" and "atom structures".
                There is people here with profound background in quantum physics who would certainly fully understand your esoteric schematic and look at a visualisation of your remarkable theory of "born electrons".

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                • Any NEW kapagens made this weekend?

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                  • it not make sense.
                    i told, i help those who want to build it and want to work with this.

                    I'm not giving this for free!

                    i told before, i spend lot of years to find the right way! if you don't listen then this is your problem, but all what i can say - sooner or later you get on this. and then you remember what I'm saying! You don't even a try to understand, think little bit - how this and how that can be. try to do something and not waiting for somebody who does it for you!
                    ----

                    And last...
                    there are 3 things who driving FE Device - all those are important, and without all 3 factors together - you cannot get anything!
                    See Kapanadze videos, search, learn, try and experiment - i just want to put on different direction, while i see everybody going in deep hell with wrong information.

                    AND DON'T TAKE ENERGY DIRECTLY FROM THE COIL - Don smith is layer- bedini and bearden talking about Energy From The Vacuum - but all what they are doing is converting one type energy to other and burning Electrons!

                    I'm sick of this to see this misinformation and garbage who claims about free energy devices.
                    There only Two Guys who successful build it Kapanadze (Georgia) and SR (Russia) and many others who don't want popularity!
                    Last edited by cosmo-lv; 06-14-2010, 12:26 AM.

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                    • Like a hostage situation you have to build some trust and give something we can digest. So if you want to be taken seriously then show something that is new to the forum yet profoundly useful and exciting.

                      "born again electrons" i don't think will do it some how.

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                      • Then i need provide all schematics and setup of device, because there are no sense for ane part or something like this.
                        Last edited by cosmo-lv; 06-14-2010, 12:56 AM.

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                        • Cosmo,
                          Too bad, many many people really would have liked to see the diagrams.
                          But everybody here WILL remember what you are saying one day when they get onto this and "give birth" to electrons.
                          Then you will be the one who saw it all along while all other were blindly "burning" electrons (scientifically expressed).

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                          • LOL Cosmo if you cant build anything yourself then how could you possibly know what your talking about. You say that your here to help only those that build but you can not build.

                            Your not here to help for free, LOL. Good one!

                            Help us all and I'll send you $5.00.

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                            • Originally posted by cosmo-lv View Post
                              it not make sense.
                              i told, i help those who want to build it and want to work with this.

                              I'm not giving this for free!

                              i told before, i spend lot of years to find the right way! if you don't listen then this is your problem, but all what i can say - sooner or later you get on this. and then you remember what I'm saying! You don't even a try to understand, think little bit - how this and how that can be. try to do something and not waiting for somebody who does it for you!
                              cosmo-lv,

                              Would you please tell us why did you join the forums here?

                              Are you selling something (since you said above that you are not giving this for free) and how much are you asking for whatever that is?

                              If you've noticed reading the posts, nobody here is asking for money or saying it's not free. Everyone puts in their ideas, thoughts and experimental results for everyone else to use, freely and without restrictions.

                              We do not speak in puzzles, everyone here is trying their best to communicate and clarify their experiences to the best of their abilities, regardless of whether they speak/write perfect English language, or not.

                              It does not matter how much each of us knows, we are much smarter together than individually, and that group knowledge is what counts at the end. That's why the forum is open to everyone and not closed to by invitation only.

                              Who will be the first to figure it out, I don't think it matters, as long as everyone here can reproduce it and tell everyone else about it.

                              Finally, we are extending you our hands to participate with us in this collective experience, but you have to reach out and meet us half way - it's the only way it will work out.
                              Are the ravings of a lunatic signs of a genius?

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                              • Originally posted by Mark View Post
                                LOL Cosmo if you cant build anything yourself then how could you possibly know what your talking about. You say that your here to help only those that build but you can not build.

                                Your not here to help for free, LOL. Good one!

                                Help us all and I'll send you $5.00.
                                Free i mean not money!
                                i have sucessful replicated it - but this is not the thing with who i'm going to make popularity, i don't need that!

                                Please delete my profile somebody!
                                i'm in wrong place
                                Last edited by cosmo-lv; 06-14-2010, 02:22 AM.

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