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  • @cosmo-lv: I will give you my patience of a week. One week I will ignore your posts and not comment on them. Prove me wrong and open source your work. I suggest the other members who are fed up do the same. He asked for a chance, here it is.

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      IF you can see SR dont use the 6 windings of the very thick wire arround the coil has kapanadze, or maybe they are there but much more thin wire that kapanadze use, i must assume?

      why everybody have to do a complete perfect replica? or think this will only work one way?

      for what i have seen i can say that are lots of different ways to achieve ressonance and multiple ways to interact with the frequencys and coils, that would probably work to!

      in the kapanadze device.., only the cable coming from the ground, pass inside the coil, and then go directly to the load!

      and SR have a lot of cables going inside it, cosmo dont have them, so its shore that this can be achieved in many ways! we must think and experiment, only by trying all the possibilities, we will get there!

      lets start by the low current/voltage system... how you think it interacts with the high voltage?

      hugs xeno



      Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
      So Cosmo, if SR has built it successfully, then why did he not use YOUR only correct winding diagram that you so quickly retracted from post #191?
      Can you explain that?

      IN SRīs coil the HV winding goes UNDER the LV winding for the whole coil, the thick wire is always on the outside as can be seen in the video.

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        once again you talk like if you were the owner of the place, or the big boss! you can not impose your will or authority! for me you seem like the twisted guys you talk about... allways imposing ther ideas!

        others dont have to do what you want, just because you think its right!

        this is a free forum, the people dont need chances given by you or anyone!

        i will be here...

        by the way, i will give you a "chance" to see some contribution of yours, are you replicating? i am, will be posting pics soon...

        hugs

        Originally posted by broli View Post
        @cosmo-lv: I will give you my patience of a week. One week I will ignore your posts and not comment on them. Prove me wrong and open source your work. I suggest the other members who are fed up do the same. He asked for a chance, here it is.
        Last edited by juju; 06-14-2010, 07:13 PM.

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        • Juju,
          according to Smith and the fact that every significant OU device has at least some HV component, it can be established that the output is directly proportional to the voltage.
          So a Joule Thief will most likely not run your house.
          Naudinīs MOT strategy with ~1 ampīs worth of HV current is still quite brute-force, but a good step to research the principle
          . It is probably the best compromise to settle at around 2 kV with 10-30 mA of current and go from there. This is the ranges that i am currently experimenting with.
          Of course if you want to power something big, you will need higher values.
          Naudin has revealed that he is working on a 12V battery powered system now, which is promising.

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            thats exactly what im going to try.. i have a MOT here... but the earth ground is far away from my lab,

            i think i will not risk with high KVA' ... that is brute force!

            i will use a radiator as ground, just like SR! im waiting for a transformer to 2000 volts... and battery as source!

            see ya

            PS: i dont believe in smith device... just looked at a video of him in a audience to take my doubts!

            hug
            Last edited by juju; 06-14-2010, 07:15 PM.

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            • Steap Meets Kapanadze

              Hi All

              Just thought that I would post this that I am building at the moment. This goes back to my STEAP circuit using polyphasing and parametrics.

              From my tests todate this should work, it can be built on any scale, so if anybody wishes to build it as well, you do not have to make it big (coil that is).

              Please note that you have to use a ferrite core for the polyphasing transformer and if you wish to feed back for a self runner you should use 10 10,000mf caps as shown, or just put one and a 12v battery.

              enjoy

              Mike
              Last edited by Michael John Nunnerley; 11-09-2011, 03:51 PM.

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                very interesting michael...

                what do your tests reveal about input/output?

                thanks for sharing!

                Last edited by juju; 06-14-2010, 07:15 PM.

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                • Mike, will you be able to make pics or videos of your set-up?
                  Good Luck!

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                  • @Michael -> how many turns and what type of core? hope for further information.... Waiting...

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                    • Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
                      Hi All

                      Just thought that I would post this that I am building at the moment. This goes back to my STEAP circuit using polyphasing and parametrics.

                      From my tests todate this should work, it can be built on any scale, so if anybody wishes to build it as well, you do not have to make it big (coil that is).

                      Please note that you have to use a ferrite core for the polyphasing transformer and if you wish to feed back for a self runner you should use 10 10,000mf caps as shown, or just put one and a 12v battery.

                      enjoy

                      Mike
                      Thank you Mike

                      Interesting design. It looks like it can close loop, self run. That would be great!

                      When you have the time could you please take a video of it running?

                      Thanks, Mike R.

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                      • Mike, I wanted to fool around with your circuit. First I need a good HV HF power supply. I used a TV ferrite transformer with custom primary windings of 2x5 turns. I used the Mazilli circuit that is basically a ZVS (zero voltage switch) circuit and works very efficiently. I can draw huge arcs from that transformer pulling up to 400w through it and the only thing that gets hot is the electrodes on both side of the arc. So this thing put out a lot of current at about 2-3kV at 12v input voltage. And the frequency is around 30KHz. Everything good this far, I tried to rectify the HV output using a microwave diode (12kV 500mA) and charge a 1uF 2200VAC microwave cap. And in parallel of that cap I placed a spark gap. The thing is that the cap fills only slowly and it reaches the breakdown voltage of the spark gap only about 2x per second giving a loud pop. And the longer the circuit runs, the hotter the rectifier diode gets and the slower the cap charges. I guess that those microwave diodes are not intended for use in such high frequencies. So I guess I need to turn down the frequency and a lower capacity cap would also be advisable
                        A microwave transformer at 50/60Hz wound not have any problems in charging the 1uF cap and the diode should also be fine, but it is said HF in your circuit.
                        Any suggestions?
                        It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                        • Spark gap in series

                          Hi Jetijs

                          The spark gap is in series on the positive side, not in parallel, the cap is just some smoothing only, look at the diagram of the circuit.

                          30Khz is great, anything from 20Khz up tp 35khz is what you need. The spark gap and the polyphasing transformer is what will give you the final frequency, the spark gap spacing will change the frequency.

                          All 4 coils are equal and can be wound with 1.5mm multi strand wire about 60 turns each coil. Be sure to connect the coils as I have shown with the + - signs that I have put, this is very important for it to work.

                          The final output transformer you will have to play with as it depends what voltage you want out. If you want to self run you would need a secoundary of 12v to a FWBR + cap or 10 caps (10,000mf), one cap with battery. The other secoundary for what ever you want to run.

                          I have to make up the polyphasing transformer at the moment, I have one which would have limited amp draw, they will get warm, also the other cap accross the two windings of the p/transformer, this needs to be a good one if possible.

                          I have had this circuit running on its own but in its original STEAP configuration, RE: STEAP thread etc, with very small load. My idea is that in this config: it will be drawing in free electrons from the two earth points giving us that little push of the swing to give us free continuous oscillation.

                          Once powered up from the battery, the battery could be removed and it would work on the cap bank for ever. The amount of extra loading would depend on the influx of free electrons into the system, the original STEAP did not have this aspect to the circuit, "this thread triggered my mind into thinking it will work".

                          Mike

                          PS did you see those photos I posted?
                          Last edited by Michael John Nunnerley; 06-15-2010, 01:54 PM. Reason: figure wrong

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                          • just a point

                            Just thinking allowed, if you get it up and running, the spark at the spark gap should be quite tame and in self run mode would probably not be seen very easily if at all, only an ionizing hiss.

                            Mike

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                            • another point

                              My mind has so many things going on that it is difficult to think of everything. The output transformer MUST be connected, IT IS PART OF THE CIRCUIT, but you do not have to load the secoundary of it, you could just test the voltage to start with untill you know what voltage you are dealing with, original STEAP was 35+35v, two phases to give 70v into the output transformer from a 12v powering source and after the secoundary 12-0-12 too 220v, gave me 1500v+

                              Mike

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                              • Hi Mike, thank you for the answers, very helpful
                                Here is my messy setup at the moment:





                                I tried the same using the whole circuit, but the sparking seemed the same and the diode still did get hot fast. I attached the whole circuit so that I could see if there will be something on the output from those few quick sparks. I use a ferrite rod 8mm in diameter and 200mm long. I wound 5 coils on it, each about 45mm in length so that all the surface of the ferrite rod is covered. The output transformer is a 45VA 12/220v transformer. The "output" capacitor is a microwave oven cap. I used only one ground for this test and connected it to both - the primary capacitor negative and the negative of the fourth coil. I thought that if I get anything at all, I will try two grounds. I tried 1uF primary cap which gave only several loud sparks per second and I tried a very small capacity HV cap series array, which gave quieter sparks but in high frequency. None of them gave something in the output. I did not measure the output, but a 220v and 12v light bulb did not show anything. Are the coils wrong? Something is definitely wrong.
                                I did not know about your STEAP thread, will read it through now
                                Thanks!
                                It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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