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  • Alternative Circuits to Drive HV Formation Circuit in the SR193 Replication

    I was wondering if you could take something like a Fuji Circuit Joule Thief CFL Light Circuit or a Jeanna's Light Circuit to act as the HV Formation Module to drive the spark gap and L2. They only require a 1.5v battery to run them.

    Regards,

    VIDBID

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    • Joule Thief Driving a Flyback with a 1.5V -Constant Arc in Spark Gap

      So what about using a 1.5v joule thief to drive a flyback to ignite a spark gap or gas discharge tube and to be applied to the L(HV) coil?

      YouTube - Joule Thief - Driving a Flyback with a 1.5V (4)

      YouTube - Joule Thief - Driving a Flyback with a 1.5V

      Regards,

      VIDBID

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      • A word about measure input

        I'm confused,

        I like the "Kapagadget" but is true a Check meter convetional can to have seriuos problems to measure the input, maybe is needed put the VARIAC and find the cap to Power Factor Correction = 1. This maybe able to erase the error margin created by the RF noise.

        Or well using a Batt with inverter circuit only hook Amp meter in the battery...

        I don't see really necessary produces HV from Sine wave source this is only usefull to amplify power grid company but this gadget can operate with a normal voltage multiplier to charge that capacitor, the Spark gap is more like a PWM trigger only need 1000 volts per 10 mm and everybody shows somes .5mm
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        • Originally posted by vidbid View Post
          So what about using a 1.5v joule thief to drive a flyback to ignite a spark gap or gas discharge tube and to be applied to the L(HV) coil?

          YouTube - Joule Thief - Driving a Flyback with a 1.5V (4)

          YouTube - Joule Thief - Driving a Flyback with a 1.5V

          Just give it a shot, you will have to modify stuff anyway to at a later point.
          But it gets you started.

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          • Originally posted by vidbid View Post
            So what about using a 1.5v joule thief to drive a flyback to ignite a spark gap or gas discharge tube and to be applied to the L(HV) coil?

            YouTube - Joule Thief - Driving a Flyback with a 1.5V (4)

            YouTube - Joule Thief - Driving a Flyback with a 1.5V

            hello dear vidbid

            why a JT if you can drive it directly from 12 volts?

            do you know in what frequency does that timer circuit for CFL bulb (12v 1A input) works? maybe 50 hz?

            i thank that will work with my 220 to 10V 1A step down transformer, reversed!

            hugs and thank you very much

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            • Originally posted by juju View Post
              hello dear vidbid

              why a JT if you can drive it directly from 12 volts?

              do you know in what frequency does that timer circuit for CFL bulb (12v 1A input) works? maybe 50 hz?

              i thank that will work with my 220 to 10V 1A step down transformer, reversed!

              hugs and thank you very much
              Juju, you can build that circuit , so that it does produce 50 Hz. Just different resistors and cap needed.

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              • I want to pick up Barotoulogos observation about the supposed white coil under the table.
                Letīs assume it is a small coil.
                Due to the size differences and the resulting different magnitudes of magnetic fields it is highly more likely that it serves as a pick-up coil rather than a transmitter.
                The question is then : "Why did he not wind it onto the other coil ?"
                Actually with the orientation it has it would not pick up the field of the blue coil effectively because the axis is wrong. Except .....
                The blue coil contains bucking coils that would create squeezed out fieldlines perpendicular to the axis and the little coil is also positioned right under the Bloch wall (if you assume the middle of the blue coil to be dividing the 2 bucking windings).

                Furthermore there is a blue and a white wire leading from what is believed to be the inverter board to the small coil. They "disappear" there and canīt be traced to any other location from there, so it is likely that they indeed connect to the small coil.

                That would mean that the little coil serves as a sense coil and the inverter board is somehow modulated maybe with the sensed current.

                My assumption that this could be simply a leg of the table is not likely, because there is no other leg like that visible. So it is likely that it has been deliberately positioned there for a reason.

                Hmm, on the other hand that reason could actually be to support the table, because that coil is freakin heavy. My board also has most of the weight distribution where the blue coil is.






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                • SR193: Blue & White Vertical Coil Under Transparent Platform

                  Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
                  I want to pick up Barotoulogos observation about the supposed white coil under the table.
                  Letīs assume it is a small coil.

                  Due to the size differences and the resulting different magnitudes of magnetic fields it is highly more likely that it serves as a pick-up coil rather than a transmitter.The question is then : "Why did he not wind it onto the other coil ?"
                  I notice that the original Kapanadze device also has a vertical coil.





                  Regards,

                  VIDBID

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                  • Yes but my point is that these coils have an approximate same size, so they could both transmit. But the little coil is much too weak.

                    By the way that whole aquarium device is a more advanced model than the green box thing. It is mind-boggling actually there is all kinds of weird stuff inside there and additional safety spark gaps.

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                    • SR193: What is the Medium Sized Black Object on Lower Platform?



                      Regards,

                      VIDBID

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                      • That object is a so-called relay

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                        • SR193: Vertical (blue and white) Coil

                          Maybe the Vertical (blue and white) Coil is sensing the field of the Blue Output Coil so that Vertical (blue and white) Coil can relay the frequency and/or frequency phase information to either/or both HV Driver and LV Frequency Generator. I am wondering if the frequency of all the modules should be in phase. I think they should be. If they are all in phase, then wouldn't the net effect be that the amplitudes of all the coils are additive? I think it would.

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                          VIDBID

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                          • HV Driver Module

                            I think I found an HV circuit that produces an arc that looks very close to the SR193 Spark Gap. The color of the arc appears to be the same. It can run on 9 volts. I saw it on YT.

                            The fly-back is from a computer monitor, and the transistor is a MJE13009.









                            Regards,

                            VIDBID

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                            • Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                              Maybe the Vertical (blue and white) Coil is sensing the field of the Blue Output Coil so that Vertical (blue and white) Coil can relay the frequency and/or frequency phase information to either/or both HV Driver and LV Frequency Generator. I wondering if the frequency of all the modules should be in phase. If they are all in phase, then wouldn't the net effect be that the amplitudes of all the coils are additive.

                              That is what i wanted to say, it would offer the opportunity to sync circuits.
                              The relay however plays no part in that, it is merely used to switch when he uses the start button.

                              I want to make clear here that this little coil theory is highly speculative, itīs just too unclear on the photos.

                              I have not seen any angle of the set-up where i could identify the actual LV sinusoid signal generator circuit. It can only be right behind the 220 V transformer and the HV transistor, very hidden.

                              I think I found an HV circuit that produces an arc that looks very close to the SR193 Spark Gap. The color of the arc appears to be the same.
                              Any HV circuit will produce an arc of that color. I have built all kinds with CRT flybacks TV flybacks etc. You just have to make sure that it only consumes about half an amp or less of power.
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                              • that's may be a kick coil

                                Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post


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                                I donīt think itīs anything. The leg of the table and some wires fixed with tape. Itīs way to small to have any influence on something or to pick-up energy, but itīs only my opinion.

                                The blue and the white wire donīt seem to enter it anywhere.
                                The lower part of the leg could be interpreted as being a coil, but it could also be a pattern in the leg material ...
                                i think that's may be a kick coil. i attached a doc about kick coil.
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