The Missing Fundamental Generator

[Armagdn03]

Very Interesting Bruce!

I am surprised our paths have not really crossed earlier. I wonder....Have you built yourself a functioning unit yet? I would be very interested to see any validation testing you have done on this or similar theory.

[Armagdn03]

Another interesting and pertinent article:

Varactor / Varicap Diode :: Radio-Electronics.Com

[dragon]

Another interesting and pertinent article:

Varactor / Varicap Diode :: Radio-Electronics.Com

That is an interesting article, I ran into that some time back while searching for sources to experiment with them. I haven't found anything that is cheap enough to experiment with ( blow up - let the smoke out - or find success ). I have used diodes and LED's sucessfully.

I remember you posted a picture or link to a rotary capacitor some time ago and I'm having a heck of a time finding it again. Do you happen to remember this device and where I could locate it again? I'd like to build a smaller test unit.

Thanks for all your help and sharing of this information...
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[Armagdn03]

That is an interesting article, I ran into that some time back while searching for sources to experiment with them. I haven't found anything that is cheap enough to experiment with ( blow up - let the smoke out - or find success ). I have used diodes and LED's sucessfully.

I remember you posted a picture or link to a rotary capacitor some time ago and I'm having a heck of a time finding it again. Do you happen to remember this device and where I could locate it again? I'd like to build a smaller test unit.

Thanks for all your help and sharing of this information...

The pictures were provided by Dr. Peter Lindemann,

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post73799

Here are a few patents which pertain to this as well...

3013201 Self Excited variable capacitance electrostatic generator
3094653 Electrostatic Generator
6936994 Electrostatic energy generators and use of the same
3412318 Variable capacitor electric power generator

Pop any of these into Google patents for a quick PDF download

Google Patents

[dragon]

The pictures were provided by Dr. Peter Lindemann,

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post73799

Here are a few patents which pertain to this as well...

3013201 Self Excited variable capacitance electrostatic generator
3094653 Electrostatic Generator
6936994 Electrostatic energy generators and use of the same
3412318 Variable capacitor electric power generator

Pop any of these into Google patents for a quick PDF download

Google Patents

Thanks Armagdn03 ! Quite helpful... I was thinking it was in one of your posts.

It would seem you would need a reasonably large capacitance to get a useful amount of energy from them although a quick and dirty experiment I did with 2 tubes, one inside the other separated by cardboard showed some interesting results using only a 6 volt input and moving the tubes in and out. I was able to bring a secondary capacitor to 7.28 volts with a 6.3 volt input but it didn't seem to occur all the time. That's usually the case with a quick and dirty experiment but it did show some potential that was inspiring enough to build something a little more precise.

Thanks again...

PS.. do you still need or want the PVC tube with a 10 grove per inch ? I've been keeping my eye out for some materials and I think I may have found something in the 6 inch range.
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[Armagdn03]

Dragon what tools do you have at your disposal?

I have been posting electrostatic versions.....but have a pretty wicked idea for doing the inverse

are you able to cut electrical steel sheets? (2d lamination) If not, perhaps, I can mail you a set of 4 mu metal cores which could be used. Ill PM you with some details and perhaps you could let me know if you are up to the challenge. I just moved into a temporary new living situation where my shop is 300 miles away, and cannot really build anything mechanical at the moment. This aside, many others are much more adept than I at mechanical setups. Should be very very simple.

[dragon]

Dragon what tools do you have at your disposal?

I have been posting electrostatic versions.....but have a pretty wicked idea for doing the inverse

are you able to cut electrical steel sheets? (2d lamination) If not, perhaps, I can mail you a set of 4 mu metal cores which could be used. Ill PM you with some details and perhaps you could let me know if you are up to the challenge. I just moved into a temporary new living situation where my shop is 300 miles away, and cannot really build anything mechanical at the moment. This aside, many others are much more adept than I at mechanical setups. Should be very very simple.

Armagdn03,, I have a CNC plasma cutter that will cut anything conductive, it's not as clean as a lazor but does a reasonably good job. If I can draw it I can cut it... I don't have a source for electrical steel though, low carbon ( 1010 or 1008 ) I can get . I do have some M19 silicon rolls but it's only 5/8" and 3/4" wide on a huge rolls I use for small alternators. Is this a way of altering induction? Let me know what you have in mind.
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[Bruce_TPU]

Very Interesting Bruce!

I am surprised our paths have not really crossed earlier. I wonder....Have you built yourself a functioning unit yet? I would be very interested to see any validation testing you have done on this or similar theory.

PM me your email address and I will send you some "interesting" things.

Anyone wanting to experiment with harmonics and intermodulation can do the following Steven Mark experiment: (you need a spectrum analyzer)

But first, in Steven's own words:
"It is an insignificant power supply except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another.Then you can measure all kinds of things going on.
You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds.What I measured during this process was very interesting.
All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time
with a much larger kick at the output."

AND

"I was working at a laboratory at the time with much more sophisticated equipment then is available to even most manufacturing companies.
I was able to analyses everything coming out of this simple two transformer AC high voltage circuit.
In most power supplies there is lots of hash coming out and designers use a .05 or so to short out as much as possible before it gets to the smoothing capacitors.
This hash comes from the mains supply and especially from the transformers themselves.
Then the smoothing capacitors take out the rest of the multiple frequency hash along with the gigantic 60 Hz ac left in the B+.
I became interested in the interaction between the two AC transformers.
The interaction can be very revealing, trust me.
Also, there is another interesting analogy.
We seem to overlook so many things in our society.
They are right in our faces but we just look around them without interest at all.
When I began to study the effects of multiple frequencies combined together I found out that when you deliberately strive to create the worst case scenario of frequencies you start to get some very measurable kicks."

Cheers,

Bruce

[Armagdn03]

Capacity changer - Google Patent Search

Another VERY interesting patent, and a bit of documentation from the good folks at rexresearch.com

Joseph Hiddink: One-Terminal Capacitor -- Articles & USP#4095162

[Armagdn03]

Please do read the page on Rexresearch provided above before the patent, it is probably the most interesting thing I have read in a while.

[wings]

Please do read the page on Rexresearch provided above before the patent, it is probably the most interesting thing I have read in a while.

see : Inventors: Patrick Cornille, Jean-Louis Naudin
Application number: 10/472,714
Publication number: US 2005/0057116 A1

An electric energy source is made by means of a plate capacitor in interposing a set of plasma tubes between the plates. The assembly is subjected to cycles for the charging of the capacitor. These cycles comprise the excitation and the de-excitation of the gas of the plasma tubes. It is shown...
Inventors: Patrick Cornille, Jean-Louis Naudin

Electrical power source - Google Patent Search

[wings]

see : Inventors: Patrick Cornille, Jean-Louis Naudin
Application number: 10/472,714
Publication number: US 2005/0057116 A1

An electric energy source is made by means of a plate capacitor in interposing a set of plasma tubes between the plates. The assembly is subjected to cycles for the charging of the capacitor. These cycles comprise the excitation and the de-excitation of the gas of the plasma tubes. It is shown...
Inventors: Patrick Cornille, Jean-Louis Naudin

Electrical power source - Google Patent Search

and discussion: Solved! How Edwin's tube and Paul Baumanns machine works.

Solved! How Edwin's tube and Paul Baumanns machine works.

[wings]

and discussion: Solved! How Edwin's tube and Paul Baumanns machine works.

Solved! How Edwin's tube and Paul Baumanns machine works.

Dr Stiffler

YouTube - MRH2O2's Channel

[Armagdn03]

A while back I had the idea of introducing two related ideas, the Missing fundamental generator, and the degaussing generator. The first part of that was this thread. The second part was never shown because of time constraints. However, instead of starting a new thread, I will simply add it on to this one as an application of the Missing fundamental concepts.


The concept is simple, and in some ways related to the work done with the TEP by Naudin and Dr. Stiffler.

imagine a ferrite core with a coil warped around its circumference.
Now on each end of the core we have two Neodymium magnets, brought to within a distance that will place the core just at its saturation point.

These magnets will set up a permanent B field through the axis of our coil.

Perpendicular to our core and coil with magnet setup, we have several other transmitter coils.

So we have now our pickup coil wrapped around a magnetically biased core. Perpendicular to this arrangement we have several transmitter coils. Because of the perpendicular orientations, the transmitter coils and the pick up coil and core will have no mutual induction. Therefore transformer action of the traditional sense is not possible.

The transmitter coils will consist of a set of frequencies, the difference between each will be the "missing fundamental".

When the transmitters are active, their fields will constructively add via the superposition of waves theorem having their resultant appear within the core of the pick up coil. The core will now experience what is known as a De-Degaussing field. The quick high frequency oscillations of the transmitters will alternate between a field which will disorientate the magnetic domains of the core, then reduce to zero, allowing the biased core to return to a magnetically quenched state. To the pick up coil, it will see a core that changes between saturation and alignment of the B field within, and a chaotic non oriented state. Effectively we are changing the B field Flux within the core at the beat frequency, or the missing fundamental frequency of the transmitters. Not only are all coils mutually perpendicular with only the core to share, but their frequency outputs and inputs are vastly different, giving two "levels" of separation between output and input.

The correct spacing of the elements can be shown in the math of the "eccentric transformer theory" thread.

Here are some related concepts and links, which use similar action within a core.

The Steorn Orbo motor replication by JL Naudin
2SGen, an amazing tiny Solid State Generator by JL Naudin

and links on this page.... JLN Labs - Scalar Waves Research which deal with the TEP.

and here by Dr. Stiffler
Energy Conversion by Articulated Transfer

[Armagdn03]

Dr Stiffler

YouTube - MRH2O2's Channel

Yes I am very familiar with those patents, discussions and videos, very very good documentation to be looking at. I am currently using similar technology in my current project, which is a parallel to this, however there is definitely "something to that".

Thanks for sharing, I was being a bit greedy and had not posted them yet, however they are fantastic so people should take note...thanks again!