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  • Can we produce electricity more efficiently?

    Please have patience.My English is not good.I use Google translation.
    I am convinced, that we can produce at least 50% more electricity, regardless of power, hydro, thermal or nuclear power.
    I can not do anything until I am convinced I'm right.Others do much more for our planet.If I'm not right, and you convince me also is well,I can relax.
    The idea is replacing turbines with something better.
    I have a patent, with many areas of application.One is in energy.
    I will give patent which unfortunately is in Romanian.
    The drawings are correct.
    The operating principle is translated into English.
    The invention relates to a rotary machine with eccentric piston, that can be a pump, compressor, pneumatic motor, hydraulic motor or internal combustion engine. According to the invention, the rotary machine has a cylindrical piston (1) mounted in a cylindrical housing (2) tangent to the inner cylindrical wall of the cylindrical housing (2), the cylindrical piston (1) being provided with a sealing piece (3), wherein a rotary blade (4) can glide, said blade being integral with a driving shaft (5) whose rotation axis concides with the axis of the cylindrical housing (2), the rotary blade (4) being in permanent contact with the inner cylindrical wall of the cylindrical housing (2); between the rotation axis of the cylindrical piston (1) and the axis of the cylindrical housing (2) there is provided an eccentricity (e).

    http://bd.osim.ro/pdf/122000-/122100-/122160.pdf

    The operating principle is illustrated by the following link

    YouTube - Rotary Piston Engine Tarnaveanu Emil

    The issuing of practice, is given to the following link:

    YouTube - Rotary Piston Engine Tarnaveanu Emil 2

    In my opinion rotary piston would take energy more efficient than turbines.
    Last edited by Emil; 05-27-2010, 12:28 AM.

  • #2
    Great design Emil. Have you tried this as a fluid pump?
    I think this would be highly efficient if a small air inlet valve was added to act as a compression buffer if using it to replace a turbine.

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    • #3
      Welcome to the forum .

      Sorry, I don't get it. Is this a motor or a generator? Or something to transform moving liquid to rotating movement?

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      • #4
        Hi,
        It reminds me at W. Wilimciks Designs, here is his Homepage and here his Youtubechannel

        I think Pistonpums will work better also, but its hard, when you dont have a Workbench,
        where you can make this Pumps, or that you can buy them.
        W. Willimczik seems got a lot of Problems, because he tried to make it public,
        as far i know, he found now an Investor, what is willing to produce it and sell it.

        I did think quiet often about a how to transfer this Design into other Devices
        like electrical, but still had not an Idea, the simple way may is, to have such Pump,
        and connect a Turbine on it, what can produce the Power.
        Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Vickers View Post
          Great design Emil. Have you tried this as a fluid pump?
          I think this would be highly efficient if a small air inlet valve was added to act as a compression buffer if using it to replace a turbine.

          You absolutely right.
          Lot of energy is used to supply a city with drinking water.It could also reduce energy consumption.
          We can also use it to torque hydraulic transmission,it can transmit very high torque.
          May be a new type of internal combustion engine.
          All these applications are saving energy.
          However, I think the use in power plants, hydro or nuclear plants,is the most important application.Does not belong to me, is our all.
          I am ready to talk about other applications, if the moderator allows.I would not want to be considered off-topic discussions.




          Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
          Welcome to the forum .

          Sorry, I don't get it. Is this a motor or a generator? Or something to transform moving liquid to rotating movement?

          It is a rotary machine with eccentric piston, that can be a pump, compressor, pneumatic motor, hydraulic motor or internal combustion engine.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Joit View Post
            Hi,

            I did think quiet often about a how to transfer this Design into other Devices
            like electrical, but still had not an Idea, the simple way may is, to have such Pump,
            and connect a Turbine on it, what can produce the Power.

            I do not understand well.
            I only want to replace turbines not power generator.
            Turbine over the kinetic energy of water or steam.The generator transforms
            this energy into electricity.

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            • #7
              My Idea is from, someone mentioned once, anything, what you can build mechanical,
              you should can build with a Circuit, you only need to replace the parts proper.
              Transfering it into a Design would be ie, you make instead the Pistons Magnets on it,
              or a Coil, what fires into a Directon like a Piston does.
              Anyhow there must be other Designs what can make this Principe into one
              Device, instead using a Pump to drive a Generator.
              But so far, it seems, its easier, to have a Pump and a seperate Generator.
              Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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              • #8
                Joit..If it works as a pump..it will work as a generator.
                Last edited by Vickers; 05-27-2010, 02:31 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Vickers View Post
                  Joit..If it works as a pump..it will work as a generator.
                  What should me tell now this sentence ... ?
                  Seems you pretty miss my Point.

                  But btw, i wont go on to spam Emils Thread with a offtopic Discussion .
                  Last edited by Joit; 05-27-2010, 03:14 PM.
                  Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Joit View Post
                    My Idea is from, someone mentioned once, anything, what you can build mechanical,
                    you should can build with a Circuit, you only need to replace the parts proper.
                    Transfering it into a Design would be ie, you make instead the Pistons Magnets on it,
                    or a Coil, what fires into a Directon like a Piston does.
                    Anyhow there must be other Designs what can make this Principe into one
                    Device, instead using a Pump to drive a Generator.
                    But so far, it seems, its easier, to have a Pump and a seperate Generator.

                    Electronic circuits are similar with hydraulic circuits.
                    Presuine like the voltage, flow like the electric intensity
                    In college I learned about computers hydraulic.
                    Are used in special environments where electricity is dangerous.
                    The operating principle of a piston is:
                    Convert mechanical work into pressure or pressure into mechanical work .
                    Until now we had linear pistons,now we have the rotary piston.
                    Wankel is not rotary piston.Is a pistonless rotary engine.
                    Rotary piston engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                    • #11
                      Hi, i see some simularity with the ring generator i am building.

                      Might wanna look here:

                      http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-them-all.html

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Joit View Post
                        What should me tell now this sentence ... ?
                        Seems you pretty miss my Point.

                        But btw, i wont go on to spam Emils Thread with a offtopic Discussion .
                        True. Sorry Joit, I did miss your point. I understand what you said now. And I agree totally.

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                        • #13
                          A new internal combustion engine


                          I present my opinion about a new engine.

                          The first step is to develop source of compressed gas at a pressure of 4At-6At.
                          Little pressure to not need cooling and small loss to discharge gas.
                          Four-stroke engine abaut:loses 40% of energy is lost through cooling,also 30% is lost through the flue gas discharge,32% of energy goes to wheels.Mechanical losses and incomplete combustion 8%.
                          Put a burner in the tank.Mixture of intake is taken from a rotary piston
                          and fed into the burner of tank.(This is the principle. I think the air will be compressed and the fuel will be injected).
                          Fuel can be anything that arde.Butan, alcohol, gasoline, oil, etc..
                          Burner must be for cobustibilul used.
                          Until now, could not ensure efficient combustion airflow needed
                          to 5At.Rotary piston can.

                          So,5At pressure is maintained with an automated system.

                          A rotary piston is attached to pressure 5At.
                          Rotary piston is usable area 100mm x 100mm = 10000mm square = 100cm square
                          Force 500Kgf = 500x10N= 5000N
                          200mm arm = 20cm arm
                          torque results 5000 / 5 = 1000N / m

                          High speed (20,000 rpm-30, 000rpm) and give a great power.
                          We can put a lower rotary piston or a lower pressure

                          Believe me,the other uses off rotary piston are equally spectacular.
                          The following article has many mistakes, but mostly true.

                          Science and Technology: Rotary piston, an invention that could revolutionise the automobile industry

                          Last edited by Emil; 05-28-2010, 10:42 PM.

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                          • #14
                            canadianwind

                            found this today... interesting...

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                            The alternator project looks very similar to "Hendershot's Motor".

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Vickers View Post
                              Great design Emil. Have you tried this as a fluid pump?
                              I think this would be highly efficient if a small air inlet valve was added to act as a compression buffer if using it to replace a turbine.
                              I you suggested something better to start experimented with as, fluid pumps are the agents of positive displacement of centrifugal pump manufactures and trying to get something better with this is like adding some extra efforts in the place of turbine.

                              Thanks
                              is something scam

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