zero-point magnetic generator

[Harvey]

First, could you provide a side view of your design concept?

What you have now seems to be a topside and a bottomside view correct?


Then I will be able to determine whether my suggestions can be applied to your concept.

Thanx.

[dj_schalk]

First, could you provide a side view of your design concept?

What you have now seems to be a topside and a bottomside view correct?


Then I will be able to determine whether my suggestions can be applied to your concept.

Thanx.

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image is getting to big for photo bucket to properly show it. so i uploaded the paint file to rapidshare .

neways check that out and tell me what ya think. i apreciate your opinions ^.^

[Harvey]

Yeah - that is big 7mb.

Ok, now I have a better picture of what you are doing.


You have two motors for input power and a whole bunch of coils for output power.

Here was my suggestion:

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You will notice that this is a side view of one of the disc sections not a side view of your apparatus, so it would be like looking down (top view) of your apparatus.

The principle of this is to use all of the magnetic flux available, so we create a complete magnetic circuit for that flux to route through. Also you will note the small gaps - this also helps to ensure that no stray flux is wasted out in the air during the electromagnetic conversion.

Note also the flux direction so that your wires on the coils are properly polarized - you don't want parallel coils with inverted polarity as they will just cancel each other out.

The information I posted earlier as regards Lenz's Law cancellation cannot be applied here, because we are using the magnets to generate electricity here. Those comments were addressed toward using Horseshoe magnets in an attraction motor where coils are used to free up the core attraction. In those motors, both poles are used on a single core. So you can disregard that information in your application.

I don't have time until after the weekend to discuss the soft magnetic material information - but to give you an idea, where you have that number 1 black circle in your drawing, imagine a diamond shaped metal with concave sides that match the radius of the magnet path placed right there. So as the two magnets begin to separate, that piece is like a road divider for them and the each go apart with that in the center of them. I guess more on that later.

As regards electromagnet life, as long as the flux path is alternated by flipping the magnet polarity, there is little danger of the core magnetizing. If you keep your load current below the wire rating of 700 circular mils per ampere, the coils should last a very long time. You will want to make sure the wires are secure so they do not vibrate and flex though.

I'll check back when I can, the next 3 days are busy for me though.

Cheers,

[tammy 123]

xeno, even if you dont heat them.. the electro magnetic interactions will cause the magnets to loose ther strenght...

but it takes a lot, lot of years for that to happen, i think...

hugs

You are right it happens and the interactions between them causes this to loose the strength in magnet as, I have heard about Alnico magnets that are used in guitar as it looses strength overt time and also, heard that other type of magnets dont loose their strength until and unless they get shocked or heated.

Thanks

[dj_schalk]

Yeah - that is big 7mb.

Ok, now I have a better picture of what you are doing.


You have two motors for input power and a whole bunch of coils for output power.

Here was my suggestion:

Larger Image

You will notice that this is a side view of one of the disc sections not a side view of your apparatus, so it would be like looking down (top view) of your apparatus.

The principle of this is to use all of the magnetic flux available, so we create a complete magnetic circuit for that flux to route through. Also you will note the small gaps - this also helps to ensure that no stray flux is wasted out in the air during the electromagnetic conversion.

Note also the flux direction so that your wires on the coils are properly polarized - you don't want parallel coils with inverted polarity as they will just cancel each other out.

The information I posted earlier as regards Lenz's Law cancellation cannot be applied here, because we are using the magnets to generate electricity here. Those comments were addressed toward using Horseshoe magnets in an attraction motor where coils are used to free up the core attraction. In those motors, both poles are used on a single core. So you can disregard that information in your application.

I don't have time until after the weekend to discuss the soft magnetic material information - but to give you an idea, where you have that number 1 black circle in your drawing, imagine a diamond shaped metal with concave sides that match the radius of the magnet path placed right there. So as the two magnets begin to separate, that piece is like a road divider for them and the each go apart with that in the center of them. I guess more on that later.

As regards electromagnet life, as long as the flux path is alternated by flipping the magnet polarity, there is little danger of the core magnetizing. If you keep your load current below the wire rating of 700 circular mils per ampere, the coils should last a very long time. You will want to make sure the wires are secure so they do not vibrate and flex though.

I'll check back when I can, the next 3 days are busy for me though.

Cheers,

hrm ive thought about it for awhile and when you get the time if you would teach me everything on how to create the electromagnet what to use etc. so i can fully understand how to alternate and keep the U shaped electromagnet running so i can pulse it to n to south push and s to north push on the rotors and if possible how non attached copper wound cord will get electricity to it for it to be used.

[tammy 123]

I think you can itself create an electromagnet from any source that will guide you better as it is very easy to build an electromagnet by wrapping some insulated copper wire around an iron core. If you attach a battery to the wire then, the electric current will flow and it converts into magnet that is the core get magnetized. But, when the battery will get disconnected then it will loose its magnetism.

There can be some other factors that are necessary for us to know what are the other materials and methods that are helpful in making electromagnet stronger.

Thanks

[dj_schalk]

i am gona work on a different project cause since permanant magnets cost to much and electro magnets possibly cause cancer messing with certain proteins or something. how cell phones , wifi devices etc.

anyways next project is to harness power from gravity that wont stop making energy and powering itself till the device wears.

Water-Gravity Generator

[Harvey]

i am gona work on a different project cause since permanant magnets cost to much and electro magnets possibly cause cancer messing with certain proteins or something. how cell phones , wifi devices etc.

anyways next project is to harness power from gravity that wont stop making energy and powering itself till the device wears.

Water-Gravity Generator

It is my understanding that EM frequencies of a given power in the 5GHz - 7GHz range are responsible for a large majority of cancer. I base that information on private research done by the late Dr. Charles Springer who was a friend of our family. This is one reason I have stayed away from computers operating at those frequencies.

It has also been stated that the Trifield Meter has a warning label on it that indicates magnetic fields above a few milli-gauss can cause health problems but honestly, I have not read anything personally that validates that statement. However, much of the electric currents used in our biological processes are proton currents and protons are magnetic dipoles. It probably doesn't take much of a field to send a proton off in the wrong direction and change the timing of chemical processes. Much of the biological action is timing critical.

I wish the best for you on your gravity experiments and would like to know of your progress as would many here I think.

Cheers,

[dj_schalk]

It is my understanding that EM frequencies of a given power in the 5GHz - 7GHz range are responsible for a large majority of cancer. I base that information on private research done by the late Dr. Charles Springer who was a friend of our family. This is one reason I have stayed away from computers operating at those frequencies.

It has also been stated that the Trifield Meter has a warning label on it that indicates magnetic fields above a few milli-gauss can cause health problems but honestly, I have not read anything personally that validates that statement. However, much of the electric currents used in our biological processes are proton currents and protons are magnetic dipoles. It probably doesn't take much of a field to send a proton off in the wrong direction and change the timing of chemical processes. Much of the biological action is timing critical.

I wish the best for you on your gravity experiments and would like to know of your progress as would many here I think.

Cheers,

ok here is the about gravity on water generator.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post97170


let me know what you think

[tammy 123]

ok here is the about gravity on water generator.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post97170


let me know what you think

I have heard about this from an article and it explained me everything that is required to be done in invention. As, this id used mainly for buildings and when there is some sort of work is going on.

Thanks