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  • #16
    Originally posted by Joit View Post
    Potential cause movement and movement creates Energy. See a Batterie.
    But we may need to define Energy more between momentum and potential Energy.
    Potential causes movement because of the vehicle it is conducting through. That conductor allows the charge which is static to become mobile. Potential then when compared to multiple sources in a grid like fashion will naturally attract via a smaller subset of the conductor reaching out to form connections and motivate it in that direction. This direction is a polarity. Energy is the constant motion of this action of attraction(in), repelling (out) and direction(polarity).
    Charges are the real power of it all and it uses a most abundant source of vehicles know as salt or salt like crystals.
    I believe that since most our natural system use different configurations of these conductors to form all matter in twords the source charge. Hence the real action of gravity. It's not spin or any other force but massive charges being attracted in twords the center of our point source(massed charges).
    If one thinks about it what happens to a layden jar when it is over charged?
    What is gonna happen when our own Earths internal charge has to much in it? Could it be this concept is explaining all the worlds natural disasters as the result of our world over charging itself? We are the reason for this and our pollution is only causing a better dialectric effect to our air. We are causing a capacitance like event to keep charges bound to our core charge and not releasing it the way it should naturally happen. Well accelerating the process would be more correct.
    It could be that the older inhabitants knew this and devised a way to lessen the effects of this event by letting or drawing some off of the top of our internal charge. Hmmm does the great pyramid start to make sense now?
    We need to start investigating this more. We need to stop being told what or how to think anymore. We don't have much time either.
    Here is an answer that someone did to explain what would happen if a leyden jar was overfilled or over charged.

    "As it is charged higher and higher, the voltage difference between the inside and outside of the jar increases, at some point, it will flash over the outside (from the outside foil to the electrode in the center of the insulating stopper) or possibly puncture right through the glass of the jar and discharge."

    This action describes that happens when a volcano erupts. The other answer in results of this overcharging is anything that is deemed radiatively.. Like Weather effects from major heat exchanges which is a radiative event. Huge storms from movement of the air and itself (Clouds (water particles)) charging up creating an easier pathway for this radiative event Arc gap.

    We are heading twords a big fluff off of charge from our planet. And If we don't do something we are headed for a dreadful end. Just look at what happens to our sun? The sun fluffs off charges all the time in a mass scale. Imagine if you will what that would be like if you were on ground zero of that fluff off. I believe we went through this already. I believe that is what created our seas. Those areas were fluffed off and thrown from our planet. I believe that the pyramid was a way to make that fluffing off event concentrated to one area like a relief valve.
    After all the whole area is a fine sand and the pyramid is made from a crystalline structure of the rock Just like the shape of the most fundamental particle that helps energy or charges move. All one would have to do was design a control mechanism to monitor and relieve the pressure thru the natural effect of the pyramidal shape of the crystalline structure of the pyramid to create a slightly higher potential at the tip and we could also take advantage and power the world from the motion of those charges leaving our earth in that area to boot.
    The pyramids were designed the way they were because if we slightly reverse flow of gravity you would need a bigger mass to hold it to the earth.
    I believe the due date for the fluffing has been predicted as 2012.
    Last edited by Jbignes5; 05-31-2010, 03:36 PM.

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    • #17
      Energy = Photons

      @Inquirate; Sorry, not page #2 yet, but some changes in circumstance and unexpected
      velocity of development elsewhere.


      There is much more in photons that just 'light' - and this is of critical importance to understand.

      Light was the first item on the agenda of the creation.

      Genesis
      1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
      1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep,
      and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
      1:3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
      1:4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness.
      (As a matter of interest: According to other and older scripts like Sumerian and Indian. We could read 1:2 as
      ‘Now all was formless and empty, darkness was over the deep and God was hovering over the expanse’)


      What if PHOTONS<>LIGHT?

      I propose:
      Photons are the origin of all matter and in the form of a pockets of slow spinning energy.
      Light is the temporally result of photons 'screaming' away from an incident of collision.

      As such then, Photons will answer two questions:

      1) Photons = Dark or Pure Energy
      2) The origin of colour is due to the velocity of Photons ‘screaming’ away.

      Does this not sound familiar? But then it will create a president, for in reality Photons
      cannot just bounce away – or reflect. It must be so that a reaction of some sort must take
      place. The reaction might well be there in some or other form related to or similar in
      effect as nuclear radiation.

      The exact phrase of one of the early physicists (Tesla/Le Bon/Moray . . .? )came to mind:
      “ Dissociation of Matter “ and that clearly was not meant to be the same as Radiation.

      I further propose:
      Photons always move in a near straight line; near as in it might be influenced by effects
      such as gravity. In such case the photon’s equilibrium is disturbed; and it will emit light;
      probably because of collision between photons. Such light will be ELF because of the slow
      spin of the photons.
      Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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      • #18
        Looking forward to page 2 here Aromaz.

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        • #19
          How about this.

          Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
          @Inquirate; Sorry, not page #2 yet, but some changes in circumstance and unexpected
          velocity of development elsewhere.


          There is much more in photons that just 'light' - and this is of critical importance to understand.

          Light was the first item on the agenda of the creation.

          Genesis
          1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
          1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep,
          and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
          1:3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
          1:4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness.
          (As a matter of interest: According to other and older scripts like Sumerian and Indian. We could read 1:2 as
          ‘Now all was formless and empty, darkness was over the deep and God was hovering over the expanse’)


          What if PHOTONS<>LIGHT?

          I propose:
          Photons are the origin of all matter and in the form of a pockets of slow spinning energy.
          Light is the temporally result of photons 'screaming' away from an incident of collision.

          As such then, Photons will answer two questions:

          1) Photons = Dark or Pure Energy
          2) The origin of colour is due to the velocity of Photons ‘screaming’ away.

          Does this not sound familiar? But then it will create a president, for in reality Photons
          cannot just bounce away – or reflect. It must be so that a reaction of some sort must take
          place. The reaction might well be there in some or other form related to or similar in
          effect as nuclear radiation.

          The exact phrase of one of the early physicists (Tesla/Le Bon/Moray . . .? )came to mind:
          “ Dissociation of Matter “ and that clearly was not meant to be the same as Radiation.

          I further propose:
          Photons always move in a near straight line; near as in it might be influenced by effects
          such as gravity. In such case the photon’s equilibrium is disturbed; and it will emit light;
          probably because of collision between photons. Such light will be ELF because of the slow
          spin of the photons.
          The charge in motion is light when speed and direction of the charge bounding off the lattice or energy conduits causes some of the charges to disassociate from the charges that are moving in a vortex action or in the case of equaled or parallel lattice or network. Meaning as charges revolve around the conduit from a source going out in a spiraling method due to influences from other parallel conduits and angular momentum of that spiraling it drops some charges from the influence of those parallel paths it radiates as well as it travels causing a tracer like effect that we see or comet trail. But I say this that at the resolution that we are talking about here those conduits and the charges are way smaller then we will ever be able to see. And the spiraling would be in between those conduits or lines of particles. These particles I believe are only lined up by voltages after that the charges move through the networks that are radiatively configured.
          Look at out current modeling of nano structures and you will see this energy matrix. We are almost there to understanding it all we just need to drop what doesn't make sense on a fundamental level we are talking about.
          Aromaz. Could you do me a favor and make a model of these particles and give them a few rules to follow. They are planar and floating in a fluidic like medium. The are individual pyramids that stack from tip to base tip to base. They have to obey planks distance and they need to follow the angular laws that we have for geometric shapes in fluids. Also and this is most important. The charges I believe are cubic. I believe they used to be the same size as the particles (pyramids) but were crushed apart by the greatest force one could imagine in between two sets of pyramidal crystals. Like this:

          ....../\....../\
          ..../....\../....\
          ...------------
          ...|......|.......|...<This area is the actual cubic area that could not stand
          ...|......|.......|...<the pressures
          ...------------
          ....\..../..\..../
          ......\/......\/

          The cube is the source charge and it conducted the potential through capacitance of the layer in the crystals.
          These would be many many billions of times stacked right next to each other in a 2d plane. What I believe is that cubic layer sheared and created thousand of tiny cubits of crystals that once they move statically charge them selves moving through the fliudic medium. With the pyramids they are 4 sided just like the great pyramid. And this shape gives it the ability to move thru the fluid by virtue of the imbalanced state.
          when these particles (potential conductors, pyramids) move they can attract the finer cubic charges behind them in the little pocket that forms. They constantly move in that area hitting and rubbing against each other from the motion of the vehicle going through the fliudic medium causing a static charge to form driving the particle (vehicle) to seek out other particles sources that follow the other particle.
          Like this:
          .../\
          ./....\
          ------
          (*)(*).... These charges (*) are much bigger in my picture
          .../\
          ./....\
          ------
          (*)(*)

          Please remember these are really 3d pyramids and with a square base and 4 planar sides that join into a tip.

          if you stick 9 of these strings in a network fashion like this....( )....( )....( )
          looking down the lines going away from the viewer in straight
          line one can see the conduit that light could propagate thru...( )....( )....( )
          these channels would revolve around the center conduit
          and bounce off of each face of these conductors to ............( )....( )....( )
          each plane of the center conduit to each of the surrounding faces that surround the center conduit. Each bounce probably knocks a few charges free and grabs some standing charges that are nodes on the network to replace the dropped charges and they bounce wildly away from the original charge propagating around the center conductor. When the charges slow down they transform into light as they slow down over a certain distance like a tracer left by a bullet.
          Now this network is generally looser in space then when near celestial bodies since the body's center has a network that is much denser due to the body pulling all available strings twords the inner point source.
          I am not entirely sure the network is cubic based but for straight connections over long distances it makes more sense that they would be parallel to each other.
          Here is an interesting vision I had the other day. When looking at snow flakes I could see the intersection of 6 pyramids all pointing in to form a geometric shape of the octagon I believe or six sided geometric shape. I think nodal intersections are multiples of pyramids attracting to a central point. In fact I believe this mirrors a plane of nodal conductors that water uses to radiate the energy away from itself as it grows. I believe it is a larger grouping of many many thousand conductors pulling charges away from water that makes the phase change that water goes through. When the water hits a charge starved network node the charges get pulled out of the water that makes it flexible and fluid and only leaves the connectors that is in water.
          I know I have shown pictures of these snow flakes so you might see that as well now that I let you know what to look for.

          Let me know if you could model that for me...

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          • #20
            And God said"Let there be light." But before there was light God had to speak. He said, describes God speaking, Therefore sound was the creator of light and all other things. Sound is vibration,frequency and force. Keely knew all these things and used these vibrations,frequencies and force to do what no others except Leedkalnin and maybe Tesla did. All matter is made up of sound/frequency. Pure white light is made up of 7 frequencies. Gods perfect number is 7. Coincidence? Just my 2 cents. Good Luck. Stealth

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            • #21
              Ha ha Stealth. You own them all now.



              PS we got a Phrase here, it is: God said, it shall be light, but he didnt find the switch, what is a rime when you say it in german.

              And noone now says God does talk to oneself.
              Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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              • #22
                You got it...

                Originally posted by Stealth View Post
                And God said"Let there be light." But before there was light God had to speak. He said, describes God speaking, Therefore sound was the creator of light and all other things. Sound is vibration,frequency and force. Keely knew all these things and used these vibrations,frequencies and force to do what no others except Leedkalnin and maybe Tesla did. All matter is made up of sound/frequency. Pure white light is made up of 7 frequencies. Gods perfect number is 7. Coincidence? Just my 2 cents. Good Luck. Stealth
                That is a boat load of good stuff rofl... Yes I believe the cracking of the middle layer of the crystals in our black hole material caused everything to be able to move. It separated potentials of the top half of the crystals and the bottom half through the cleaving of the cubic area. Of course this killed a few layers of the pyramidal crystals as well to the fundamental level that they formed from.
                If one looks at how crystals form they need a seed on the higher end that I believe these crystals formed. If the black hole material was crushed to the smallest distance then even planks distance it would have caused a direct short to happen in the internal components of these crystals. If one needs a primer on what happens when this is done check out the abomb. It would have obliterated all mass even the crystals to an extent. This would have been done on a very very massive scale of the size of our universe on a 2d plane. This separation that drove the left over parts of the crystals to move away with such force that it would have stretched the very fabric of space. Mass is the only thing binding that space back together in tighter groupings of the energy network that was made from the complete separation of 2 surfaces a billion million miles round and flat. The crystalline formation was only a natural process when a base material is super compressed and heat is applied. Both of which are described by our best minds in the current view of black holes.
                I believe what caused the crystalline flat plane was two black hole seed crystals. About the size of our own solar system. Yes the whole solar system.
                What was in between those two black holes seed crystals would have been the start of that layer. Once the crystals squeezed that matter into finer crystals it formed a bridge between the two crystals and created the short that caused the explosion upon further pressure. This collapse and resulting explosion was the force it needed to separate into the void with the crystal shards forming our known universe into a equally spaced grid of these connectors being bent out from the center like the lines of force between two like poles of a magnet. This is what gives our universe it's pancake like look and even it's rotation. with the upper part of the material left over developing a mass more then the lower part from more black holes joining our black hole with a bubble in it.
                So indeed our universe is ever growing and speeding up because our real space is growing out from the mass that it is attaining from outside our own black hole.
                The interesting thing is that we are now looking into the ability use crystals as a memory device for computers. What if the ID of God is the ying and the devils yang. Those ID's are held in the two halves of the seed crystals that were one at one point.
                Now how did we know these facts and make them our religion. Well if I am indeed correct then we are connected to the whole thing and we accessed that connection to learn the truth in a way we could understand it.
                It isn't a far stretch to think that I have accessed this from that very connection. It led me to these conclusions because we are one with everything. We are truly one with God and with everything out there. Hmmm...
                It is very interesting. Thinking about everything we see in our media and you start to see the connection everywhere. Star Trek, the Matrix and dozens of other stories that were pulled from those connections and made into media for us to see. With Star Trek being the ultimate source. Just look at the crystals they ran the star ships with...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Stealth View Post
                  And God said"Let there be light." But before there was light God had to speak. He said, describes God speaking, Therefore sound was the creator of light and all other things. Sound is vibration,frequency and force. Keely knew all these things and used these vibrations,frequencies and force to do what no others except Leedkalnin and maybe Tesla did. All matter is made up of sound/frequency. Pure white light is made up of 7 frequencies. Gods perfect number is 7. Coincidence? Just my 2 cents. Good Luck. Stealth
                  @Stealth: I have one issue with some numerology.
                  Who determined how long a second is?
                  Therefore the question becomes: How did God bring 7 hz and one second together before the time lapse of one second was determined?
                  How could there be vibration before polarization?
                  Who said God needed to speak with audioable voice?
                  His thoughts would should/have to be enough.
                  Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                  • #24
                    ok folks, here is my half cent ( hey, im cheap, i know )

                    this is pure speculation about polarization of electric charges.

                    after considering these questions about polarity for some time and looking at different behaviors of different models, it dawned upon me, some simple facts.
                    we all know that there are two kinds of electric charges and that they are polarized. right ? right. what is that polarization ? what information an electric charge sends out ? bla ? bla !





                    the assignment of + and - was arbitrary and it is of no importance.

                    now, in wave mechanics, there is this reflection thingy which is being utilized in Quarter Wave antennas to achive maximum broadcasting power.

                    if you consider a single electric monopole and the behavior of quarter waves, you will notice that each half cycle,
                    a polarized half wave is being transmited by the antenna ( a forced signal ),
                    and in some way, an electric charge behaves the same but with the addition of some sort of "diode" to prevent the back polarization,
                    ie, somehow, the electric charge keeps spreading the same type of information.



                    since the begining of quantum physics, the view of information being spread as small periodic and discrete signals took hold as the main view.
                    if those discrete information packets are very short and spread very fast, to an external viewer it will seem like a continues polarized stream or flux.

                    now comes the part of attraction and repulsion
                    but before that, your thoughts for this crackpot ...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
                      @Stealth: I have one issue with some numerology.
                      Who determined how long a second is?
                      Therefore the question becomes: How did God bring 7 hz and one second together before the time lapse of one second was determined?
                      How could there be vibration before polarization?
                      Who said God needed to speak with audioable voice?
                      His thoughts would should/have to be enough.
                      I surely have no clue what Gods voice would sound like but from the description of everything about God in the Bible just to look at him would blind you or some such thing. That was the one thing I never payed attention to but it does sound like they were describing a very energetic event.
                      The second is actually not a second in space either... hmmm why is that? Proof. They need to re-gauge the satalites in space because the clocks are that off from on the ground nuclear clocks we have. They have to do this every morning. So it seems time or something else is modifying the clocks in space.

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                      • #26
                        I agree. I don't really know whether it was an actual sound, or thought that provided the spark to cause creation. When dealing with the unknown, it has always been my experience to question everything.Only by proving or disproving a theory through scientific experimentation is the only way I know of to uncover the truth. There are so many things in our 3 dimentional universe that we don't understand, and yet, when dealing with these phenomena,gravity,polarity,magnetism,electricity,l ight,sound,and vacuum,we amy not ever be able to comprehend these things, as they may well be in another dimention altogether.Light and sound are the only two we can comprehend with our limited senses.There are so many mysteries that await us on our quest to uncover these truths,but until we develope instruments or ourselves to detect these anomalies,we will never know for sure what these are.I am glad to be a part of this open forum of thought exchange.We may all be right.It may be made up of all our theories,but only by testing these will we ever know for sure.Good Luck. Stealth

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                        • #27
                          When man and women alone, there will be third party. John Bedini mention aether enter in between north and south of a coil and adding energy. Polarity is separation of different sex.

                          Bright and dark are for human to work and rest. This graph bellow seems also similar to what walter russel (blue = creation), Karl Reichenbach (blue = cold), and recently Paulo Correa (blue=DOR) observe.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Stealth View Post
                            I agree.
                            I dont. Ha ha.

                            I did think about the Part 'Sound' in Electricity too, but did not found it.
                            But at a Strom is lighting and Thunder. Therefor i replaced the Sound
                            with the Electromagnetic Field / current, and this would even more match
                            then, that you dont have make a Sound, but can create a Action with a Field,
                            what moves like a Wave.
                            Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                            • #29
                              yes...

                              Originally posted by Joit View Post
                              I dont. Ha ha.

                              I did think about the Part 'Sound' in Electricity too, but did not found it.
                              But at a Strom is lighting and Thunder. Therefor i replaced the Sound
                              with the Electromagnetic Field / current, and this would even more match
                              then, that you dont have make a Sound, but can create a Action with a Field,
                              what moves like a Wave.
                              See the wave is sound. When we test our machines like the one magnet no bearing bedini motor What was the method to detect the wave? Even though we couldn't hear it, if one put a radio by it you can here it all through sound. It is how you detect it I think and this is a clue...

                              Also sucahyo your religion has great wisdom buried in it. The elder religions have in them more pure thought then anything I have ever heard. People always wonder where that wisdom comes from and I got one question for you to help them understand. Do you meditate?

                              I believe meditation is that connection that conversion of the intangible to sound or the tangible. The conversion of the heart beat of this universe to our senses. I believe that is where it all comes into realization or manifestation to our minds. Most will not understand this but sucahyo does I bet.
                              Last edited by Jbignes5; 06-02-2010, 10:53 AM.

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                              • #30
                                @Jbignes5, I am not that good. I did meditation at highschool but not serious. Praying is also meditation. Deep thinking is also meditation, which I think better than unfocused meditation. I think we have to have purposes and keep remembering / rechanting it when we meditate. Mind can do wonders. That is why religion remind us to always believe too.

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