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  • #31
    hmmm

    sucahyo... anything that you mention is meditation!

    basically "real" meditation is to clear your mind, and not think in anything at all!

    there's where you find the absolut truth... in the silence of your mind!


    hugs

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    • #32
      Originally posted by juju View Post
      basically "real" meditation is to clear your mind, and not think in anything at all!

      there's where you find the absolut truth... in the silence of your mind!
      Maybe, but doing that without someone else to protect you is dangerous. Protection from the one already have the knowledge. Especially if you are among the gifted one. You may be taken over, which may last years if you don't get good help. You are safer if you have aim to focus.

      When you have been taken over, you no longer have control to your self. You know more things, but have less control of your self. It is different from permitting taken over.


      This remind me. Paulo Correa mention that orgone is derived from ambipolar energy. Energy that has no polarity.

      Anyone can give example of energy without polarity?

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      • #33
        OK Corrie, here we are on page 2. Now cough up the goods.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Shamus View Post
          OK Corrie, here we are on page 2. Now cough up the goods.
          LOL I second that.

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          • #35
            I agree....

            Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
            Maybe, but doing that without someone else to protect you is dangerous. Protection from the one already have the knowledge. Especially if you are among the gifted one. You may be taken over, which may last years if you don't get good help. You are safer if you have aim to focus.

            When you have been taken over, you no longer have control to your self. You know more things, but have less control of your self. It is different from permitting taken over.


            This remind me. Paulo Correa mention that orgone is derived from ambipolar energy. Energy that has no polarity.

            Anyone can give example of energy without polarity?
            I have to agree with sucahyo to an extent. If you really understood that our own potential is only open if we expose it. We are always guarded because we choose to be guarded and protected. If one doesn't know how to attain meditation you will always be open or at least be open to be misled. Sometimes that takes a mentor to help you until you understand that no one can force you to do anything. They can apply pressure or try to shame or guilt you into doing things but that ultimately would be your choice.

            Yeah I believe energy has zero polarity. It is all one polarity just levels that collect together. Thats how polarity comes about. Energy of different levels being compared to one another by a conductor or vehicle over a distance. Energy is static in the sense of movement except when it has a vehicle, then it has direction.
            Tesla said that he could make it so all light had no way to conduct. He literally believed that he could scatter all the conductors out of an area and maintain that as long as he wished. It was one of the methods he was prepared to give our government to end all war. Because if one could not see how would you do anything?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by CatLady
              Okay, I have to ask: Who is Corrie and what are the "goods"?


              Hi Cat. LOL. I think Corrie is Aromaz. In any event Aromaz promised us his study - thesis. He's been working on this using some really zut software. And he has our interest - or certainly mine.

              But he was only going to give this when his thread reached page 2. LOL. So. We're here now Aromaz. And you have my full attention.

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              • #37
                ...

                Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
                I have to agree with sucahyo to an extent. If you really understood that our own potential is only open if we expose it. We are always guarded because we choose to be guarded and protected. If one doesn't know how to attain meditation you will always be open or at least be open to be misled. Sometimes that takes a mentor to help you until you understand that no one can force you to do anything. They can apply pressure or try to shame or guilt you into doing things but that ultimately would be your choice.

                Yeah I believe energy has zero polarity. It is all one polarity just levels that collect together. Thats how polarity comes about. Energy of different levels being compared to one another by a conductor or vehicle over a distance. Energy is static in the sense of movement except when it has a vehicle, then it has direction.
                Tesla said that he could make it so all light had no way to conduct. He literally believed that he could scatter all the conductors out of an area and maintain that as long as he wished. It was one of the methods he was prepared to give our government to end all war. Because if one could not see how would you do anything?

                dont understanded very well...

                how would this method of energy end all war?

                if one could not see what?

                hugs

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by juju View Post
                  dont understanded very well...

                  how would this method of energy end all war?

                  if one could not see what?

                  hugs
                  Well from my best understanding is that he learned how to manipulate the conductors. If there are no conductors in an area then how does one see? I believe these conductors are responsible for us being able to see as well. The light travels in waves but I think if one looked really close the charges are bouncing in between the conductors which I suspect are crystalline. Kinda like a prism.
                  So now you have it all tied into one network. One for potentials to be able to compare them against one another and the other for charges to travel and further yet one that light travels through as well... All in one neat network like structure.
                  You know how they are explaining the light bending around the planet? Well actually the cross over from the earths influence of the atmosphere and yes the included the ionosphere to the space environment is like a changing of the density of these conductors. With space having less density of this network then you would have on our planets atmosphere.
                  Just like we have on computers in nature when you cross the barriers of density of the network of conductors they merge into much thicker conduits, kinda like a compression of the conduits for space. This does not include matter. Matter usually has a bunch of smaller connections contained by the matter that was attracted to a much smaller, finer node point. These node points are held together by a static charge or many static charges depending on how thick the node is. I would assume that is why we have a charge sphere that we call the ionosphere. I think it is this way because what we can see like the barrier of water vs our air it should obey the same rules when we cross the ionosphere barrier. There is further proof because as the space shuttle is entering this ionosphere they use the same technique as one would in all our other barriers like that including the air water barrier. The space shuttle is actually a well designed surfboard that can carry our guys back from space. With each layer of density change requiring them to change the angle of attack as they put it.
                  Last edited by Jbignes5; 06-03-2010, 10:56 PM. Reason: Horrible grammar and spelling

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                  • #39
                    thank you

                    your posts shine, seriously!



                    hugs

                    EDIT: so empty space, what we call space, is a complex crystal structure, channels from where all kinds of energy, human, "electrical", maybe counciesness travel? lets say vibes that guide us?

                    i always imagined the connections in a wave form, strings... i like your thinking!
                    Last edited by juju; 06-04-2010, 02:07 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by witsend View Post
                      . . I think Corrie is Aromaz. In any event Aromaz promised us his study - thesis. He's been working on this using some really zut software. And he has our interest - or certainly mine. . .
                      @ Witsend; you are right, me is me. Thank you for the interest in my crazy crackpot stupidity. But you are wrong: This is not a 'thesis' - it is just clips from my own notes, rephrased and explained in expanded version.

                      Amazing how many words it takes to try and explain something you can see and understand in a fraction of a second in your mind.

                      @All, sorry I am a bit occupied with the daily burden of trying to make a business (factory) survive through current economic status.

                      Here comes the promised parts. Shoot me, kill me, rediculed me - whatever you wish; but please do only one thing for me:
                      Do consider the current model might not be right at all.
                      Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                      • #41
                        PART 1 - Introduction

                        The universe is full of energy; energy that we do not know how to reach – yet. Our current model on which all our science is based has flaws; we often states that, but we fail to find the suitable replacement model. All the time in this past centuries conventional science found the current model lacking to explain some phenomena, then they develop a new theory and a new math.

                        It is very easy to change science laws and very easy to make up all kinds of stories; provided you remain within the acceptable parameters of Maxwell, Newton, Einstein et.al. It is even much easier if your theories can not be disproved because that on which you base your theories are not visible.

                        Since the days of my school I had arguments with our science teacher, and later also with pastors and learned religious leaders. I never believed that “You just have to accept this fact” if such fact cannot be physically proved – and worst even when such fact does not make logical sense.

                        Over these past years I kept on going back to the same old questions of 5xW. What, When, Where, Why and Who - add in my most favourite HOW.

                        Personally I do believe (and so does most of you on this forum) that there is a very large Universe filled with energy that we do not know how to access. I further believe that when we learn about this energy, we will be able to tap into it and use it without any destruction of material and more important: without even using batteries.

                        Like the fire first given to our ancestors, I do believe we are on the brink of receiving the New Energy.

                        However, this will need us to reconsider our current models. Are our models wrong? I believe so yes. Our current model has basically reached its end of abilities; YET – there are things that we to this day cannot do! Can we move the massive blocks of Baalbek in Lebanon?

                        People are amazed with the accuracy stone blocks for the Egyptian pyramids were cut and transported. Well, at least we can do that today; though it will still take a very long time. Truly, it was an amazing feat for those builders. BUT there is another lesser know engineering feat; most of which we can to this day – with all our modern tools – still NOT duplicate. Look up on Puma Punku near Tiwanaku in Bolivia.

                        There are hundreds of similar examples that proves to us technology and knowledge did exist befor our time (or elsewhere) – technology that we today cannot even theorize about.

                        I state with no reservation: Our understanding of the building blocks in our universe is wrong. It is time for us to go back to the dream state and start looking for new ideas and THEN go to the drawing board to imagine them, trial them and experiment around them.

                        How can one construct a building if you do not understand the material you have to work with? Unless we reach the point of understanding the material of the Universe, we will not be able to construct anything but dreams. In our current level of science we are standing with a window frame in our hands, looking and wondering how to put this where it is suppose to be. Gosh, we do not even know what the material of this window frame is made of!

                        So what we need to do is to look at the ATOM again. But for us to get understanding the atom, we need to know the 5xW of it, and HOW it came to be. Once we reach that, we will be able to proceed on a new road leading us to success in energy, travel speed and eventually exploration of the universe.
                        This was my reason for asking the two fundamental questions in this forum tread.

                        Energy – for that must have been the most fundamental force
                        and
                        Polarity – for that is the only possible force responsible for the first matter.

                        Before I go on: I do NOT claim to be correct, I do not claim to know everything.
                        I only claim “Is it possible, it might be possible?” and to present you with a novel possibility.
                        Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                        • #42
                          PART 2 - ENERGY: (Because Energy was the First)

                          (In part already replied on Page 1 above)

                          Ohh . . . so many theories and mystery about the origin of our Universe. For me it never really mattered much - until I kept on running onto dead-ends with physics that just kept on failing to make logical sense. So I had to go back from molecule to hydrogen to proton, electron, photon . . . . and I discovered that the first thing we learn in any religion is actually the full key to unlock all physics.

                          Let me explain how I see the beginning; and this is very important to understand.

                          There was nothing – a big black nothingness of space; no aether, no electrons, no cold, no hot and not even light, in fact not even black – just NOTHING.

                          Somewhere in this nothing there came to be something – a very small extremely compressed form of PURE ENERGY. Call this God, Creator or whatever you wish, but I think God was even bigger and before this blob of pure energy.

                          This dense blob of Pure Energy exploded and spread through our universe, filling the void of nothing .

                          This ENERGY now filling the Universe was there before light; thus in all right we can call it DARK ENERGY or dark matter – or for all practical purposes this could also be the all illusive aether.

                          There was nothing other than just the pure energy - still not even light.

                          This Pure Energy we will never understand nor measure. This is the only point where I will accept defeat - “We just need to accept”. That said, it is not to say we will not be able to see the effects and manifestation of this Pure Energy. Further, for our purpose this Energy is beyond our requirements, unless you dream of being God to build a new Universe!

                          Within this sea of energy small miniscule portions of the Dark Energy started to form mini vortexes – rotating within the big filed of Dark Energy. They rotated around their own axle, became denser and formed small pockets of concentrated energy.

                          Something happens now. The original Pure Energy becomes fragmented into small units of energy; it is not part of the overall Pure Energy anymore, but it is still WITHIN the overall Pure Energy.

                          It is this smaller pocket of energy that we call ENERGY; this is where our interest can and should start.
                          Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                          • #43
                            PART 3 - POLARITY: (The cause of matter)

                            Today we say Rotation is responsible for polarity.

                            I say no, it is not. Rotation is only responsible for concentrating energy in a small observable unit.
                            Any unit of energy is still just a small part of the Pure Energy - and neither has any polarity.

                            Point 1: The small pockets of energy we have at this stage are very slow rotating, thus they do not have a solid effect in themselves - yet. They do not have enough ‘energy’ to cause effect on others.

                            THIS is what I will call the PHOTON. More details later on, but for ease of explanation I will use the description of PHOTONS here onwards. BTW I do believe photons are spherical in shape.

                            My definition of Photons:
                            A photon is a small spherical unit of energy rotating at speed so low that it does not have any polarity, is ‘soft’ and unable to cause effect on its own.

                            It is only when two or more of these photons merge in a specific way that their energy starts increasing with higher rotation. The merging has to take place in a very specific model. First there is the ‘polar’ regions where the actual velocity at the ‘skin’ of the photon is slower than the ‘equator’.

                            Thus if two photons merge on the same plane with equator to equator, they will retain the same speed of rotation, though they might be bigger in size. Because the speed of rotation cannot maintain the volume of the photon, it will split into two units again - most likely the same volume each.

                            However, if one photon is colliding with another at an angle in such way that contact from one is on equator and the other is near the polar, the overall speed will increase. Part of the slower moving photon will be absorbed into the now faster spinning bigger photon. Cannibalism.

                            Edit - Next level of Evolution:
                            Eventually some photons will reach a rotation speed where they start having profound effect on their environment; and on each other when they do collide. They start behaving like a particle, thought they are not particle at all.

                            This I will call 'Electron'

                            If a pocket of energy (Electron) is rotating in a clockwise direction as you observe it; and you change position to observe the same rotating pocket from 180 degree different angle; that pocket is rotating Anti-clockwise. Will this mean the same pocket of energy is both Positive and Negative? Yes it is correct – and wrong. They do NOT have any polarity. (Neither gravity!)

                            The issue is not what you see from your angle of view; it is in what is happening where the two (or more) pockets meet with each other. If they are rotating in the same direction, the point of meet will have friction and opposition – they will repel each other; or destroy each other. On the other hand; if they are rotating in opposite directions, they will not repel but be sympathetic to each other.

                            My Definition of Polarity:Polarity only comes into effect when two highly charged units of energy come into contact with each other. The spin direction of each unit of energy at that moment of contact determines if there is conflict (Same spin direction) or sympathy (counter directions of spin). Thus Polarity is very well about the direction of the spin in any unit, but not at all times. Polarity only comes into effect at the moment of collision between two spinning entities.
                            Last edited by Aromaz; 06-04-2010, 08:10 AM.
                            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                            • #44
                              Part - X

                              End for now:

                              Now we have to take a new possible look at the formation of Electrons, the Atom and Gravity.

                              According to conventional science gravity is needed before the atom or electrons can be formed.

                              I disagree. In my model the Electron is next, then the Atom and then only Gravity.

                              However, for these I will make another thread. Here we can now roll over and expand on the ideas that might be:

                              From the Begining until the PHOTON.
                              No more, no other and none beyond the Photon please.
                              Let us try to keep this focused?


                              Last edited by Aromaz; 06-04-2010, 04:22 AM.
                              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                              • #45
                                I still not clear. Sorry for my impatient, since I think you will explain this later. Just want to say what I think right now.

                                Every photon has the same densification level (same energy)?

                                Photon is physical?

                                Nothing at all formed before photon?

                                No mirror in the dark part?

                                Photon is the first form for something coming out from nowhere?

                                Photon is not a thing? how it become a thing?

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