what do you think is happening to Jupiter?

[HairBear]

It does not matter if Nibiru, the galactic disc, or the Mayan calendar are factual or not. It's most improbable they can be proven until they may be observed. Allegorical works of art are sensed in different ways by everyone. The stories may not have meant to be "believed" in to understand the morals of the story. The most recurring theme to most of the old testaments and such, to me say... "Be prepared, anything can happen and if you pay attention you can beat the odds." If by some chance, there is a world cataclysm, those who were prepared will most likely survive.

In recent times of a year or so, I have noticed increased activity around the world of earthquakes, volcanos, strange weather patterns, meteors entering our atmosphere, solar system wide changes including our Sun. And yes, Man is doing his fair share of fiddling with a fine balance too. According to some stories, we have been through all this before and some how forgot about it. I would say ignored. Coincidence? "There is no coincidence, only the illusion of coincidence, it means I, like God, who does not play with dice and do not believe in coincidence. You are here for a reason and I am just playing my part. God be with you, he is no longer with me."

[Aromaz]

@Harvey;
I do agree and we do face the possibility that the whole tablet was just a contract, maybe paying tax or plan on agriculture.

There is one point which do make me wonder. Until relativly recent - people kept the Earth as center and sun/planets/stars orbiting the Earth. Very easy to understand that when you study the universe. Why in this case is it quite clear that the sun is the pivor of the solar?

On Suma Cuneiform script: I wish Sitchen will sometime publish a lexicon!

The following are the best material I know of; presently:
1) W. von Soden published the three volume "Akkadisches Handwortebuch" which is in German but very comprehensive (and heavy)
2) Never seen, but heard of: 'Chicago Assyrian dictionary'
3) Probably the most authentic and still expanding: "Sumarian Dictionary Project" from Uni Pensylvania; ongoing for more than70 years.
See: PSD: home page

[Harvey]

@Juju,

The Lunar days from New Moon to New Moon run about 29 days 12 hours and 44 minutes.

Lunar calendars are required to be realigned with Solar cycles if seasons are to be kept close to time keeping. This prompted the use of Lunisolar calendars that have adjustment days added in periodically.

The Biblical calendar was typically 12 months arranged at 29 or 30 days which would be about 11 days short each year (29.5 * 12). After 19 years there would be a deficit of 209 days that would need adjusted. This was done by adding 30 days 7 times during the period.

As alluded to, the lunar cycles realign with the solar cycles every 19 years (see Metonic cycle) To accomplish this, according to fourth century records, a 13th month was added between Adar and Nisan called Veadar (second Adar) which would correspond to the middle of March on our calendars. Hillel II specified that these months should be added on the 3rd, 6th, 8th, 11th, 14th, 17th and 19th years of the cycle we know as the Metonic Cycle.

Interestingly, there is no Biblical record of any mandatory time scale for the adjustments and only Adar had a flexible number of days like our February does in our time, sometimes having an extra day. This could be how they adjusted the 209 vs 210 every 19 years keeping Veadar constant at 30 days.

So as far as historical records show, it was not 13 x 28 but rather 12 x 29.5 (29 or 30 each) that constituted the Lunar Year.

It is interesting that the Babylonians were quite aware of the 19 year cycle long before Meton was credited for it.

[Harvey]

@Harvey;
I do agree and we do face the possibility that the whole tablet was just a contract, maybe paying tax or plan on agriculture.

There is one point which do make me wonder. Until relativly recent - people kept the Earth as center and sun/planets/stars orbiting the Earth. Very easy to understand that when you study the universe. Why in this case is it quite clear that the sun is the pivor of the solar?

On Suma Cuneiform script: I wish Sitchen will sometime publish a lexicon!

The following are the best material I know of; presently:
1) W. von Soden published the three volume "Akkadisches Handwortebuch" which is in German but very comprehensive (and heavy)
2) Never seen, but heard of: 'Chicago Assyrian dictionary'
3) Probably the most authentic and still expanding: "Sumarian Dictionary Project" from Uni Pensylvania; ongoing for more than70 years.
See: PSD: home page

If we are to take the Bible accounts as accurate, we see that extraterrestrial spirit creatures were allowed to come and go from the earth at will. (see Job 1:6,7). Some of these creatures set themselves in opposition to God and have been influencing humans accordingly. It is a simple thing for these spirit persons to convey to the magic practicing priest and star gazers the accurate position of our planetary arrangement. It is also a simple thing for them to convey incorrect information.

Kepler was able to discern the proper orientation of our planetary system and I doubt he was the first. So even without help from spirit creatures, mankind did have the skills to determine these things given the right tools.

@All,

Regarding the "End": Even though we are aware that we live in a changing time of foretold events coming true (See Matthew 24)
Also:

But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

Good News?
Kingdom? (See Danial 2:44)
End of what?

Prophetically, the end is not dependent on celestial alignments or even on the foretold preaching - it has a precise time schedule independent of all other possible things material or spiritual. Even if the preaching were to be stopped the rocks would start talking (see Luke 19:40). So everyone will be given a chance to hear the good news before the end happens - lol, this may be your turn

Wouldn't it be kewl if God told us exactly what we need to do to survive "the end" ? Oh wait - he did, but hardly anyone cares .

[Aromaz]

So as far as historical records show, it was not 13 x 28 but rather 12 x 29.5 (29 or 30 each) that constituted the Lunar Year.

It is interesting that the Babylonians were quite aware of the 19 year cycle long before Meton was credited for it.

I stand corrected; should not post from memory on numbers.

Had to scratch for where I reacted so wrong:
13x28 is the human cycle, was also used by some cultures as a year count;
in particular tropical areas where sky is misty and cloudy for long times during a year.

[juju]

time

thanks for the interesting info harvey

the lunar cycle have 29,5 synodic days.. then a lunar year of 12 synodic months is arround 354 days, or we can say 13 sideral moons, cause the Moon has a sideral period of 27.3 days and a synodic period of 29.5 days.

but i was talking about the natural human biologic cycles, that aromaz ended up talking when he apologize after being misled by me , you can take for example the days of gestation on women (28 days) the proposed calendar of the neo-mayas suggests 1 year of 13 months (that they call "moons") with 28 days each, plus 1 day... that is the day out of time!

since 1 turn to the sun is 365 & 6 hours ... every 4 years i think you will had another extra day, 6hx4=24h

they say we are in the wrong frequency, and must return to the natural frequency that is 13:20 because it is formed by natural cycles, the two main 13 and 20, representing the 13 galactic tones of creation and the 20 solar frequencies, which are the 20 seals of the 20 solar tribes and one must respect the natural cycles if we want to live in harmony with nature and 13:20 is our natural frequency.

it is a calendar synchronized with nature... without some years with months of 28 or 29, and 30 or 31... that is completely nonsense and have affected our perception of time between earthlings...

then everyday, a turn of the earth will be celebrated X day and X moon of the solar year X.

the 13 moons of 28 days is the way...

@Juju,

The Lunar days from New Moon to New Moon run about 29 days 12 hours and 44 minutes.

[CashSolver]

Very interesting calculations and information.

Actually, to corroborate your comments, juju, the Islamic calendar used all over the world today is the 354 days of 12 lunar months. The months go from new moon to new moon. Some months are 29 days others 30. To account for the .5 days. Generally you will not find three months of 30 days in a row.

This calendar is what Muslims observe for the fasting and for the pilgrimage every year.

Don't quite understand, though, your conclusion to go to 13 months of 28 days. Nor how that relates to 13:20. Where is the 20?

[juju]

hi cashsolver

thank you for the interest!

Don't quite understand, though, your conclusion to go to 13 months of 28 days. Nor how that relates to 13:20. Where is the 20?

the 20 has to do with the 20 "tribes" from the planet earth... that we all descend of!

the 28 days, as to do with biological human cycle, that is like a sine wave in which our energies, intelectual, emotional, fisical... interact with eachother!


Thirteen Tones, Represented in Our Main 13 Joints

We know what gives movement to our bodies are our main thirteen articulations, each of which corresponds to one of the 13 galactic tones. Therefore, our bodies contains the code of the natural cycles that govern both the physical as the spiritual aspects of life.

The Twenty Seals, Represented in Our Hands and Feet

Our bodies are encoded with aspects 13:20, 13 tones for the galactic and twenty solar seals of the sacred calendar, which form the natural frequency. We have 20 fingers on hand and feet, which correspond to the 20 solar tribes.

We are going to Exit the Wrong Frequency 12:60

That is this frequency which is an artificial frequency of time, which humans are living.

It is produced by the Gregorian calendar that governs us in our day to day and has 12 months of irregular shape, with different numbers of days in months (like 28, 29, 30 and 31 which do not represent the natural cycles) and the mechanical clock, now digital, which keep us prisoners in the third dimension, marking hours 60 minutes.

These were the ingredients for getting us out of our natural frequency (which is 13:20 and not 12:60) after many years of there use .

The consequence for humans to live outside its natural frequency, is that we are the only beings on the planet that must pay to be born, to live and pay to die, which does not happen with the other species.


if you are interested in more info, please ask!


so the muslums only folow the moon and not the sun? before the 354 days the calendar starts again?

[thedude]

UPDATE-Giant flash on the surface of Jupiter

Giant flash on the surface of Jupiter. I believe this to be an image of the second recent impact. Much speculation about what it could actually be as it left no debris field, yet clearly impacted the outer layers . The mystery does continue...



Check out Nasa's most recent article on the subject.

Lightning does explain it to some degree despite the fact that most experts don't seem to believe it could be displaying that much plasma. I think it stands to reason that Jupiter could be generating that kind of energy at its surface if one surmised that we were moving though a hard to define field of energy being emitted from the middle of the galaxy. Whether that layer corresponds with the galactic plane or the heaviest concentration of mass across a horizontal plane who knows.

Great movie to watch. "Thunder Bolts of the Gods". Will update with a link.
Is someone striking a match? lol???

[witsend]

Great move to watch. "Thunder bolts of the Gods". Will update with a link.
Is someone striking a match? lol???

Thunderbolts of the Gods | Watch Free Documentary Online

I think that's the link. Amazing stuff.

[CashSolver]

so the muslums only folow the moon and not the sun? before the 354 days the calendar starts again?

Hey Juju

No! The Muslims use the sun and the moon as markers of time. The year uses the lunar calendar, the day uses the position of the sun in the sky. They are only used as markers. Their passage in the heavens is noted in the Quran as a "way to count the years and for you to know mathematics"

This seems to me a much more "natural" understanding given that they are directly observable by calculating human beings or any uneducated person. Easy to see, easy to understand and quick to grasp.

As for 20 tribes....well where is the background for that? Eventually we all stem from one human being. And how does the 20 tribes relate to a calendar of 13:20 when you are looking at 13 months? Sounds rather arbitrary to me.

I am asking to understand what you are saying.

[CashSolver]

thank you for the interest!


It is produced by the Gregorian calendar that governs us in our day to day and has 12 months of irregular shape, with different numbers of days in months (like 28, 29, 30 and 31 which do not represent the natural cycles) and the mechanical clock, now digital, which keep us prisoners in the third dimension, marking hours 60 minutes.

I do agree, juju, that the Gregorian calendar is a mishmosh of artifacts of time. Obviously it was constructed to keep time with the seasons. And it is confusing in that fashion. In Egypt, even before the advent of Islam, there was and still exists another calendar used for agriculture. The month names represent the start of plant and harvest seasons. Also a time when winds blow, etc. Many farmers use that calendar to handle their crops. But they use the Muslim calendar for other aspects of their lives. I am not familiar enough with that calendar to tell you the breakdown, though.

In any case, as confusing as the Gregorian calendar is, still the seasons are part of the natural cycle and so are the solar equinoxes.

I don't understand why one frequency is better than another. How about the 7 days of the week? Why do we look at thirteen joints and 20 digits and not on 4 limbs and 2 eyes?

[CashSolver]

The Twenty Seals, Represented in Our Hands and Feet

Our bodies are encoded with aspects 13:20, 13 tones for the galactic and twenty solar seals of the sacred calendar, which form the natural frequency. We have 20 fingers on hand and feet, which correspond to the 20 solar tribes.

What are the 13 tones of the galaxy?
What are the twenty solar seals?
What is the sacred calendar?
What are the twenty solar tribes?

Honestly, I have never remotely heard of this before.

[juju]

hello cashsolver

i was not the inventor of this calendar...

this is a movement that folows the mayas calendar and try to understand ther teachments, and are a lot of groups all over the world connected in this idea!

lots of them are guided by spiritual guru's, yoga teachers, xamans, coinsciesness masters, cosmic folowers!

They call it the peace calendar of 13 moons, you can search for PAN to...







World 13-Moon Calendar Change Peace Movement

13 Moons of Peace* Dreamspell Calendar & 2012 Prophecy

this are internacional sites, but i folow the groups in my country! they also have what they call "KIN" that is your galactic signature... its like the horoscope signs, but much more complex!

you talk as i was telling this was the only truth and all the others are wrong! im not telling that, this one is just one of the truth's... now you believe in what you want! since that makes you happy!


"It should be noted that the 13-Moon/28-Day calendar is a perfect solar-lunar measure; that is, it uses the even, regular lunar cycle of 28 days as the standard of measuring the 365-day solar cycle of the Earth. The balance of solar and lunar may also be taken as symbolic of human psychological characteristics and their balance or imbalance. A solar-lunar calendar will represent and reflect a balance of the solar-lunar, masculine and feminine qualities within the human being. It is important to bear in mind these considerations of calendars and their effect on shaping the human historical consciousness and its psychological makeup. From this perspective, history is, in fact, a process of falling away from the perfection of harmonic standards. "
- Dr. José Argüelles

[juju]

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Life is my Teacher
The World is my Playground."

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