Kapagen Theories, Replications, Winding Diagrams, Circuits & Schematics. KAPAGEN ONLY

[vidbid]

My Intent for Creating this Thread

No one is throwing anybody off of this thread. If you wish to leave, that is your choice.

I do request people stay on topic.

Warning and disclaimers are there to protect people from the hazards and lawsuits.

If there were fewer wild and less careless statements being posted to this thread, I wouldn't post as many disclaimers.

When I started this thread, it was because I had gone as far as I could go with the SR193. See my post. My intent in starting this thread was to study the Kapagen at 220V input. My disclaimer at my first post in this thread references 220V Kapagen Systems, High Voltage, and High Voltages. I would think that that should be plain enough.

I am still working on obtaining my objective which is to understand the working principles behind the Kapagen. I have a few theories that I am working on based on what I have learned from Tesla's patents and Donald L. Smith's theories, and I should mention that I am heavily influenced by Peter Lindemann and from what I studied of E.V. Gray's circuits. When I am ready, I will post my conclusions on this thread along with diagrams.

[TanTric]

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for the ones that think my DMM could be not reading pulsed DC accuratetly!

the readings match precisly with my analogic DC current meter!



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there is no OU on the KAPAGEN setup...

[vidbid]

Kapagen : Practicality With Respect To Claiming OU

there is no OU on the KAPAGEN setup...

Whether a device produces OU or not, most prudent people tend to omit the OU term and stay away from making OU claims just as a matter of practicality. However, that is not to say that they are precluded from stating input and output in terms of power.

[TanTric]

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okey, test it and take your doubts! i have allready take my doubts!

just wait to see what i am up to, and i will not be folowing blynd theories, just proof!!

[vidbid]

Kapagen : Blindly Following Theories

okey, test it and take your doubts! i have allready take my doubts!

just wait to see what i am up to, and i will not be folowing blynd theories, just proof!!

While I do recognize your good intent behind your statement, I have a response to it: No prudent person here would suggest anybody follow blind theories if there be such things, nor would any prudent person here suggest anybody follow any theory blindly, which is what I think you really mean. Nor would any prudent person here deny the importance of relying on proof. However, there is such a thing as over-reliance on proof, which is what I think you are advocating, in which case, I do not agree with you.

As to anybody blindly following theories here, I would say that is not the case here.

[Mark]

okey, test it and take your doubts! i have allready take my doubts!

just wait to see what i am up to, and i will not be folowing blynd theories, just proof!!

Juju are you suppose to be posting on this forum, I see that you changed your user name.

[seth]

As to anybody blindly following theories here, I would say that is not the case here.

just people blindly following the 220 V rule

[vidbid]

Kapagen Systems - 220 VAC Input

just people blindly following the 220 V rule

The 220V / 240V Rule. Whatever. The exception to the rule is 110VAC or 120VAC input. The point is these voltages have the potential to kill you, so due caution is required. See 110/120VAC AND/OR 220/240VAC KAPAGEN SYSTEMS ONLY

If you don't believe me, then check out J. L. Naudin's Kapagen Replication Page.

By the way, I didn't see a single 12V-input Kapagen system listed there. If you want to discuss 12v-input Kapagen systems, go to the thread set up for them.

These are the type of Kapagen replications that I am interested in:

#1 June 9, 2010 - Kapagen replication by dragon. INPUT: 120VAC to NST, OUTPUT: powering one 150W halogen bulb.

#2 June 9, 2010 - Kapagen successful replication v1.0 by romerouk. INPUT: voltage not specified: INPUT POWER: 260W. OUTPUT: powering five 100W bulbs.

#3 June 10, 2010 - Kapagen replication v1.1 and 1.2 by romerouk. INPUT: 240VAC, OUTPUT: powering nine 100W bulbs.

#4 June 11, 2010 - Kapagen replication by callanan. INPUT: not specified. OUTPUT: not specified.

#5 June 11, 2010 - Kapagen replication by retrod. INPUT: 120VAC: OUTPUT: powering a 200W light # 6

#6 June 12, 2010 - Kapagen replication by retrod. INPUT: not specified. OUTPUT: powering six fluoro-tubes and two 40w lamps.

#7 June 15, 2010 - Kapagen replication by woopy. INPUT: 120VAC. OUTPUT: powering six 200W 120V lamps.

#8 June 16, 2010 - Kapagen replication by retrod. INPUT 120VAC, 4 Amps. OUTPUT: powering six 200W 120V lamps.

#9 June 16, 2010 - Kapagen replication by woopy. INPUT: 230VAC. OUTPUT: not specified but it looks like ten 100W bulbs.

There are more.

[TanTric]

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what i mean to say, is that everybody is yelling "FREE ENERGY"... and making all kinds of theories arround the kapagen, without even experiment with it or make test to prove the OU effect.

and when you folow a theory of free energy that you cannot prove(but i can prove with evidence that maybe is not FE), you r blindly folowing someones wrong theory!

so, i just believe in what i see! no what the others imagine that is!

While I do recognize your good intent behind your statement, I have a response to it: No prudent person here would suggest anybody follow blind theories if there be such things, nor would any prudent person here suggest anybody follow any theory blindly, which is what I think you really mean. Nor would any prudent person here deny the importance of relying on proof. However, there is such a thing as over-reliance on proof, which is what I think you are advocating, in which case, I do not agree with you.

As to anybody blindly following theories here, I would say that is not the case here.

[TanTric]

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Juju are you suppose to be posting on this forum, I see that you changed your user name.

the MIB told me that i will be in trouble if i dont change my name and pic...

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

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There is a reason for a reversing coil. See Donald L. Smith's explanation for it in his work, entitled, Resonance Energy Methods under the page heading Tesla Coil Geometry, PDF page 40/119.

Yes Sir!

Once again, I must say it:
BUCKING MAGNETIC FIELDS
goes back to Tesla's coil shown in his 1892 lecture "EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY "

This lecture is the part of the Tesla book that Don Smith said to read, and where he got his ideas from.

[vidbid]

Tesla / Smith / Reversing Coil Winding Directions / Bucking Magnetic Fields

Yes Sir!

Once again, I must say it:
BUCKING MAGNETIC FIELDS
goes back to Tesla's coil shown in his 1892 lecture "EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY"

This lecture is the part of the Tesla book that Don Smith said to read, and where he got his ideas from.

I will have to study up on the term Bucking Magnetic Fields, but I probably agree with you!

Thanks for the reference on Tesla.

As far as I know, the idea to reverse coil winding directions and the purpose behind doing so comes from Tesla, according to Smith. Smith also discussed the concept in his 1996 Tesla Symposium videos. Start at 1996 Tesla Symposium, Video #1. I suggest the reader view all nineteen videos. He also referenced that concept in a Tesla patent #336,961, middle drawing of PDF page 1 of 4. You can see that he references this patent in this video: 1996 Tesla Symposium, Video #8.


Picture of Donald L. Smith, circa 2003.

In looking at EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY, I would like to cite the following by Tesla:

I have found it advantageous to reverse the usual position of the wires, and to wind, in these coils, the primaries on the top; this allowing the use of a much bigger primary, which, of course, reduces the danger of overheating and increases the output of the coil. I make the primary on each side at least one centimetre shorter than the secondary, to prevent the breaking through on the ends, which would surely occur unless the insulation on the top of the secondary be very thick, and this, of course, would be disadvantageous.

When the primary is made movable, which is necessary in some experiments, and many times convenient for the purposes of adjustment, I cover the secondary with wax, and turn it off in a lathe to a diameter slightly smaller than the inside of the primary coil. The latter I provide with a handle reaching out of the oil, which serves to shift it in any position along the secondary.

I will now venture to make, in regard to the general manipulation of induction coils, a few observations bearing upon points which have not been fully appreciated in earlier experiments with such coils, and are even now often overlooked.

The secondary of the coil possesses usually such a high self-induction that the current through the wire is inappreciable, and may be so even when the terminals are joined by a conductor of small resistance. If capacity is added to the terminals, the self-induction is counteracted, and a stronger current is made to flow through the secondary, though its terminals are insulated from each other. To one entirely unacquainted with the properties of alternating currents nothing will look more puzzling. This feature was illustrated in the experiment performed at the beginning with the top plates of wire gauze attached to the terminals and the rubber plate. When the plates of wire gauze were close together, and a small arc passed between them, the arc prevented a strong current from passing through the secondary, because it did away with the capacity on the terminals; when the rubber plate was inserted between, the capacity of the condenser formed counteracted the self-induction of the secondary, a stronger current passed now, the coil performed more work, and the discharge was by far more powerful.

One more thing, Smith states in that video, that is, the 1996 Tesla Symposium, Video #8, track 4:08, that this coil by Tesla is the secret to obtaining the desired amperage; however, it is not evident in the diagram below that while the top L2 coil winding turns one direction, the lower L2 coil winding turns in the opposite direction. For that information, refer to the Tesla patent #336,961, middle drawing of PDF page 1 of 4.



See following reference: Resonate Electrical Power System by Don L. Smith, PDF page 6 of 14.

[dllabarre]

120V Kapagen replication

I ran my first test on my Kapagen replication.

I have a "kill-a-watt" power meter that I put in-line 30 feet before the Kapagen between extension cords to measure Watts, volts and amps.

1) tested 18 * 100 watt bulbs connected to MOT directly. 1043Watts. Bulbs fully bright
2) add MO capacitor. 785Watts. Bulbs still fully bright.
3) add SG and 15kv Diode. 956Watts. Bulbs NOT fully bright.

Next step add coil and ground connections...

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

Vidbid,

I think it also has to do with the other coil Tesla showed in Figure 3 of that lecture. It states "......When both the parts are connected in series, this gives a ratio of conversion of about 1:2.7, and with the primaries in multiple, 1:5.4; but in operating with very rapidly alternating currents this ratio does not convey even an approximate idea of the ratio of the E.M.Fs. in the primary and secondary circuits.



in this one BOTH the primary and secondary are wound in 2 parts in opposite directions

[baroutologos]

I would not count on Don Smith theories if i were you.
They have been extensively tested by me, others and Russians and have been found a pile of BS.

There is not a speck of truth in what he says, not to mention one theory contradicts the other. Smart merchant/book seller he was...